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  • @lillymunster at first they mix it with turkish blend.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 12:51:21 PM

  • @lillymunster so the same old story then? Glad I didnt miss anything in my checking in's............@Edano of course!! got to make it taste good!
    by Angie 9/6/2011 12:52:38 PM

  • oh boy. look here: www.jti.com !!!!
    by Edano 9/6/2011 12:56:06 PM

  • @Edano hmm. I wonder if they have the license on some of those brands or actually own the international company of them? Camel is a huge tobacco brand in the US.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 12:59:44 PM

  • *wipes forehead* mine isnt in there............
    by Angie 9/6/2011 1:00:58 PM

  • @lillymunster yes, they produce the brands under license with japanese tobacco leaves mainly for japanese market, but they export it as well (i guess only within asia). finanzen.sueddeutsche.de
    by Edano 9/6/2011 1:06:33 PM

  • harbor, dog with world's longest ears

    by Edano via Ovb-online.de 9/6/2011 1:15:34 PM

  • www.morgenpost.de philippine crocodile - world's biggest - 6.40 meters - caught, not killed !

    by Edano via Morgenpost.de 9/6/2011 1:18:14 PM

  • @Edano just have to say that thing is bloody HUGE!!
    by Angie 9/6/2011 1:20:02 PM

  • That picture doesn't do justice to how big that crock is. Still have not heard how they caught it.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 1:21:57 PM

  • by Edano via Nzz.ch 9/6/2011 1:22:52 PM

  • @lillymunster very friggin smartly is how!!! lol
    by Angie 9/6/2011 1:25:32 PM

  • There is word there might be a bigger one in the same area. My question is do they have a nuke plant nearby? Croczilla?
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 1:46:55 PM

  • @lillymunster well its a change on godzilla thats for sure!!!
    by Angie 9/6/2011 1:48:11 PM

  • OB_Li translated a recent Kan interview for us. Grab something solid before you start reading, your going to fall over from shock...

    Sense of Crisis - Possible Catastrophe in Metropolis

    Former Prime Minister Naoto Kan, stepped down his position as of September 2, 2011, accepted the exclusive interview offer from Tokyo Shinbun and talked about the anxiously he had felt while series of hydrogen explosion happening at TEPCO Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Energy Plant. "This accident may cause serious disaster to make Metropolitan area dead zone" - He disclosed that he felt this sense of crisis. He's changed his mind and determined to shift "Stop relying on nuclear energy power" since Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Energy Plant accident, as he used to be very confident about Japanese nuclear technology.

    He explained the reason why he went to TEPCO headquarters on March 15, 2011, 4 days after the accident, was the words from Former Minister of METI Banri Kaieda around 3pm on the same day, who disclosed TEPCO was planning to abandon Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Energy Plant.
    He felt "If TEPCO abandons Fukushima Daiichi and Daini Nuclear Energy Plant, 10 nuclear reactors and 11 nuclear fuel storage pools, nuclear reactors and nuclear fuel storage pools would be empty and rapidly melt down. " , then he ordered to set up the Integrated Headquarters Measures of TEPCO and government at TEPCO headquarters.

    "If TEPCO had abandoned Fukushima Nuclear Energy Plant, there would have been nobody in Tokyo. It was the most critical moment for Japan as a country to keep surviving as it is. The amount of radiation leakage could have been more than several score times than Chelnobyl Nuclear Power Plant accident." , Kan explained and this experience changed his old idea of being confidence in Japanese nuclear technology into the new idea to aim not to rely on nuclear power plant energy society.

    The reason why he requested CEPCO to stop Hamaoka Nuclear Energy Plant was based on the research result of big possibility of Tokai earthquake, which would completely cut off the route between Tokyo and Osaka, that would result in huge damage on Japanese economy and society.

    Kan said "NISA was trying to restart the nuclear reactor following the old procedure without my knowledge. I didn't think it was possible to get an approval from Japanese nation." , and criticized METI's correspondence. This is the reason why he installed the new safety standard procedure just before the restart of KEPCO Genkai Nuclear Energy Plant. About renewable energy, such as solar power, "Although there are possibilities to start shifting to those renewable energy, electric utility industry and METI have kept rejecting those since 30 years ago. I would like do my best to get over this difficulty.", Kan said.

    Regarding restarting Fast Breeding Reactor Monju and recycling nuclear fuel, Kan said "It's almost impossible with our current technology. It has to be fully reviewed whether to keep it or not. "

    www.tokyo-np.co.jp
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:03:22 PM

  • @lillymunster i remember well when tepco wanted to abandon the plant. kan was cited with the words "what in hell is going on there". he was very upset.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:07:42 PM

  • we all thought that there was no way to regain control anymore.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:09:54 PM

  • @Edano I don't remember that, that TEPCO was seriously going to abandon the whole mess. I remember KAN was mad that things were not being handled well.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:12:58 PM

  • I finally signed up for the NRC emails Dean suggested. Cooper Station is in all sorts of trouble for bad management practices.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:18:49 PM

  • @Edano I remember that line I was watching the live feed....and the translater said it!
    by Angie 9/6/2011 2:19:21 PM

  • I remember thinking if the Japan gov didnt know what was happening than really the whole lot was lost.
    by Angie 9/6/2011 2:20:16 PM

  • kan personally ordered the workers back - they all had left the plants already.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:21:41 PM

  • yes, it was monday morning in europe.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:23:09 PM

  • @Edano If that has been left to burn the entire island would be uninhabitable.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:24:51 PM

  • @Edano yes all the workers had ran at that stage............and I didnt know anything about nuke power then only that it would be
    bad.........
    by Angie 9/6/2011 2:27:38 PM

  • My question is why were they going to leave Daini tho?
    by Angie 9/6/2011 2:31:06 PM

  • @Angie because it is only 10 km away.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:37:08 PM

  • According to the interview they were going to abandon Daini also.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:41:39 PM

  • @Edano yeah I remember it being close........thank god they came back in a way, sad for the worker tho. well 1am here so I best besleeping night guys Iwill try and log on tomorrow. xoxoxo
    by Angie 9/6/2011 2:42:11 PM

  • The Kan interview made a headline on Asahi ajw.asahi.com
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:46:05 PM

  • @Angie nite Angie, good seeing you. :-)
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:46:22 PM

  • @lillymunster ooh i hope we have a chance to see the entire interview.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:49:28 PM

  • @Edano asahi article has 3 pages of it
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 2:52:13 PM

  • @lillymunster ah, didn't see it. :)
    by Edano 9/6/2011 2:53:49 PM

  • "social pressure to conform to majority views" kan really sees the roots to the problems. astonishing.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 3:02:11 PM

  • "Q: Some say Japan needs nuclear power plants to maintain its capability to create nuclear weapons. What do you think about that?

    A: I have never discussed that issue in official meetings. There are many ways of looking at the issue."

    that's frightening, if you think how nukes are being spread around the world.
    by Edano 9/6/2011 3:04:54 PM

  • @Edano Things seem to move in cycles. As countries that adopted nuclear weapons and nuclear power are now trying to move past that stage in life we have developing countries wanting to try it. This is one of those steps developing countries should just skip over, like landline phones...
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 3:20:29 PM

  • @all Good Morning...Good Evening...Hello!
    by smoss 9/6/2011 3:42:06 PM

  • Hello
    see http://australiancannonball.com/ - he also points to a further article
    Japan’s ex-PM Naoto Kan feared ‘uninhabitable Tokyo’
    www.theaustralian.com.au

    and also a video: German TV ZDF – Frontal21 Fukushima – with English and Japanese subtitles.
    BUT his link (and others) aren't available anymore but I found 2 that work at the moment:
    www.youtube.com
    www.youtube.com
    by Vivre 9/6/2011 3:42:25 PM

  • @smoss HI!
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 3:42:32 PM

  • @lillymunster Hi! Will be interesting to watch how things progress with the "changing of the guard" so to speak....
    by smoss 9/6/2011 3:46:34 PM

  • @all I wasn't aware that the basement of Turbine Building was being used for temporary water storage...* At 10:11 am on September 6, we started the transfer of accumulated water
    from the condenser to the basement of turbine building, as it was
    confirmed that there was a decrease in the level of accumulated water at
    the basement of turbine building of Unit 2, and stopped at 2:54 pm on
    the same day.

    www.tepco.co.jp
    by smoss 9/6/2011 3:48:57 PM

  • @smoss I am a bit worried. Conflicting stories about Noda wanting to restart reactors and also stories he wants to shut out nuclear power
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 3:49:07 PM

  • @lillymunster If I were to cast a bet on this, I would wager that 1/2 of the reactors currently off-line will be restarted prior to the anniversary 3/11/12. Just a gut feel on this gig, the international public is being lulled into submission, and the Nuclear Power Industry (both Japanese and International) will continue to spin this bit by bit, as they have for the last 6 months! Noda will have to bow to industry :-(
    by smoss 9/6/2011 3:56:42 PM

  • @smoss I have seen a pretty organized effort in the US to tell people everything is fine and a non issue. Close calls like N. Anna and Calhoun help keep the issue on people's minds but it is going to take much more than that.
    by lillymunster 9/6/2011 3:59:59 PM

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