Japan Earthquake

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@Display Name:LM based on online KNX radio it sounds like a big power line had a system failure, Orange County south to parts of Northern Mexico and East to Arizona
by RonD 9/9/2011 12:17:33 AM

Two reactors shutdown at San Onofre nuclear plant. Massive blackout.. latimesblobs.latimes.com
by MaryW 9/9/2011 12:22:10 AM

The blackout affecting large swaths of San Diego County led to a shutdown of two reactors at the San Onofre nuclear power plant.

Gil Alexander, a spokesman for Southern California Edison, said the power outage did not cause any safety issues. Alexander said a fluxation in power caused the reactors to shut down at 3:38 p.m. but that the overall plant continues to have power.

He said the system worked as it was supposed to during a loss of power.

Across San Diego, businesses are closed, traffic is snarled and the trolley system is down. San Diego International Airport was on backup generators.

There were reports that power was also out in southern Orange County, Imperial County, Tijuana, Arizona and Palm Springs.

The city of San Diego has set up its emergency operations center.

Sheriff's officials told Fox 5 San Diego that many of its substations were without power. Utility officials are trying to figure out what cause the outage.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 12:24:21 AM

@lillymunster based on radio comments, a power line from AZ to CA failed, this caused cascading overload on CA power plants and a cascading power failure
by RonD 9/9/2011 12:27:17 AM

AP says 1.4 million without power. Power company and state don't know what the issue is. abclocal.go.com
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 12:27:27 AM

around 1.4 million people without power
by RonD 9/9/2011 12:27:33 AM

latimesblogs.latimes.com
by MaryW 9/9/2011 12:35:04 AM

Sorry, I'm traveling in my car and keyboarding...hopefully this link will be correct
by MaryW 9/9/2011 12:35:06 AM

@MaryW good grief!
by Cryptococcus 9/9/2011 1:05:42 AM

outage appears to have originated in Arizona and that the agency is working with California power officials to bring the power back. Officials said the outages extended across Southern California and into Arizona and Baja California. [Updated at 5:14 p.m.: SDG&E said both its power supplies were compromised, though it is unclear exactly how. Lines from Arizona and from the north appeared to fail, the utility said.
"Hot days in a row like we have had create lots of power flowing. Could have had an impact," SDG&E said in a statement on Twitter.] latimesblogs.latimes.com
by Cryptococcus 9/9/2011 1:08:15 AM

The outage will likely be so until tomorrow some time
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 1:19:46 AM

Ack! High radiation levels in fukushima residents www.asahi.com
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 1:56:49 AM

Experts: key lessons from Fukushima still not being learned www.marketwatch.com
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 1:57:58 AM

Hi all! On my iPad now thanks to the the hubby and his wireless hub. Still no power in SoCal. My kids are doing homework by candlelight. Hopefully San Onofre stays powered. Keep your fingers crossed. Smacks of cyber terrorism...
by LM 9/9/2011 2:49:09 AM

@LM seems the whole thing is very odd. If you have a car charger for any of your stuff you can always charge phones/ipads etc in your car. We bought a USB jack that goes in the cig lighter. :-)
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 2:52:09 AM

@Lilly Thanks! That's a good idea.
by LM 9/9/2011 2:52:53 AM

@lillymunster , Lake Anna's water level is of existential importance to North Anna nuclear power station, because the lake represents the ULTIMATE HEAT SINK for the station's reactors. In both Fukushima's nuclear stations the transfer of the reactor decay heat to the ultimate heat sink, there it is the ocean, was disrupted precipitating the core meltdowns. I wonder why nobody in the meeting brought this issue up.
by Peter 9/9/2011 2:54:19 AM

@Peter that bothered me also. The lake is such a huge issue as is the dam. If the dam fails how do they cool both reactors?
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 2:56:28 AM

@lillymunster , Fukushima-like with fire trucks as if that helped. These are the lessons to be learned. I do not see the learning yet.
by Peter 9/9/2011 3:16:36 AM

@Peter the fire trucks ran mostly on sea water. Without that big body of water where do they get enough? I get the impression the river itself isn't huge.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 3:22:02 AM

@lillymunster , isn't the public allowed to petition with the NRC? I am thinking of asking that the NRC requests the operator of North Anna to examine what happened to the lake level after the quake. Furthermore, the operator should examine the risks and benefits of automatic seismic SCRAMs.
by Peter 9/9/2011 3:36:21 AM

@Peter I think there is a way and it sounds like a really good idea. Dean is familiar with the details of how NRC works. I worry about contingency plans if the dam fails. They should be tasked to prove a sufficient water source to handle a fukushima type melt down. Updated seismic that includes a scram system should be mandatory.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 3:40:44 AM

nite all!
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 3:43:20 AM

nite Lilly!
by Peter 9/9/2011 3:55:12 AM

good morning
by ElaineKirk 9/9/2011 4:42:01 AM

Q+A: What's going on at Japan's crippled nuclear power plant? mobile.reuters.com
by Panserbjorne9 9/9/2011 5:45:27 AM

Remembering "3/11": Six Months After the Fukushima Reactor Disaster, Key Lessons Appear To Be Going Unlearned www.marketwatch.com
by Panserbjorne9 9/9/2011 5:49:02 AM

Blame it on the weather..."Rain to blame for March 15 radiation spike in Fukushima" www.asahi.com
by RBeaner 9/9/2011 7:09:08 AM

OB_Li Leo
Translation : Kan's visit to TEOCO and the reason behind his action Yukio Edano, the former Chief Cabinet (cont) tl.gd/cvsseh
by ElaineKirk 9/9/2011 9:56:01 AM

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Translation : Kan's visit to TEOCO and the reason behind his action
Yukio Edano, the former Chief Cabinet Secretary disclosed to Yomiuri Shimbun interview that TEPCO former CEO Masataka Shimizu requested him that TEPCO had wanted to fully evacuate nuclear plant workers from Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant right after the explosion on March 15.
TEPCO has been fully denying this request from former CEO Shimizu. Both former PM Kan and former Minister of METI Banri Kaieda have been explaining about the TEPCO's evacuation request, Edano publicly and firstly disclosed about the actual time line of the evacuation request from Shimizu. Edano pointed out that Shimizu's request was shared among government officials as "Full evacuation from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant".
According to Edano, Shimizu firstly approached to Kaieda to request the evacuation plan but rejected then called to Edano. Edano and other government officials asked Yoshida, Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Director, NISA and other nuclear power plant authorities for their opinions on the evacuation plan, Yoshida confirmed that plant workers could still keep working. Everyone except Shimizu agreed upon devoting to work for the plant and evacuation wasn't an option.
After this happened, Kan summoned Shimizu to come over to his official residence, Simizu didn't refer to anything about the action plan in future. This made Kan visit directly to TEPCO Headquaters and urged TEPCO board members strongly that there was no option for Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant workers to evacuate from there.
Edano valued Kan's action toward this evacuation request from Shimizu, "The evaluations on the cabinet of Kan vary but I really appreciated Kan being the PM at that very moment".
via http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/news/20110907-OYT1T01246.htm
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by ElaineKirk 9/9/2011 9:58:11 AM

@ElaineKirk : and later tepco blamed kan for visiting the plant and by doing so delaying the work at the plant which had to be suspended.
by Edano 9/9/2011 10:41:57 AM

reractor temps:
#1 : all below 95°, very slightly rising
#2 : all between 95° and 125°, stable
#3 : all around 100°, slightly rising
by Edano 9/9/2011 10:52:53 AM

@Edano oh yes thanks for reminder!!
by ElaineKirk 9/9/2011 10:59:51 AM

Radiation expert says outcome of nuke crisis hard to predict, warns of further dangers As a radiation metrology and nuclear safety expert at Kyoto University's Research Reactor Institute, Hiroaki Koide has been critical of how the government and Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) have handled the nuclear disaster at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. Below, he shares what he thinks may happen in the coming weeks, months and years. mdn.mainichi.jp
by Luisa 9/9/2011 11:00:03 AM

english.kyodonews.jp

'Research whaling' starts off Hokkaido
Members of a community-based whaling association attend a ceremony in Kushiro port, Hokkaido, on Sept. 9, 2011, ahead of their departure for so-called research whaling authorized by the Fisheries Agency in waters off Kushiro. The association is aiming to catch up to 60 minke whales through late October to study their impact on coastal fishery stocks. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 9/9/2011 11:00:45 AM

ooooh, the quaotation marks are not mine !!!!!!
by Edano 9/9/2011 11:01:03 AM

Over 100,000 Fukushima Prefecture residents can't return to hometowns More than 100,000 Fukushima Prefecture residents are still not able to return to their municipalities due to the ongoing nuclear disaster at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, a Mainichi survey has found. (more) mdn.mainichi.jp
by Luisa 9/9/2011 11:01:13 AM

@ElaineKirk this is perfide, isn't it. (is perfide an english word?)
by Edano 9/9/2011 11:02:35 AM

english.kyodonews.jp

Kaminoseki promotes nuclear plant despite Fukushima crisis
Photo taken from a Kyodo News helicopter on May 17, 2011, shows the planned construction site (C) for Chugoku Electric Power Co.'s Kaminoseki Nuclear Power Station in the town of Kaminoseki in Yamaguchi Prefecture, western Japan. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 9/9/2011 11:04:37 AM

english.kyodonews.jp

Words meaning 'peace' projected onto Brandenburg Gate
Words for ''peace'' in 48 languages are projected onto the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, Germany, before dawn on Sept. 9, 2011, in a rehearsal for an event to commemorate the 150th anniversary of friendship between Japan and Germany. Japanese lighting designer Motoko Ishii is producing the event, which will be held on Sept. 9 and 10. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 9/9/2011 11:06:27 AM

Plastic water bottles block radiation?!! Family with young children chooses to stay in radiation 'hot spot' district FUKUSHIMA -- As the August sun beats down on a preschool here, children's playful voices can be heard coming from the facility's pool.

Lined along the poolside are around 1,400 plastic bottles of water, which supposedly block radiation from the ground. There isn't hard science backing the claim up, but both the school and parents are putting their hopes in it. more at: mdn.mainichi.jp
by Luisa 9/9/2011 11:06:40 AM

Hachiro sorry for calling Fukushima plant area 'ghost town'

TOKYO, Sept. 9, Kyodo

Industry minister Yoshio Hachiro apologized Friday for describing the vicinity of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant as a ''ghost town'' following his visit to the disaster-hit area Thursday.

''Sad to say, the centers of cities, towns and villages around it are a ghost town without a soul in sight,'' Hachiro said at a press conference in the morning.

At a press conference in the afternoon, Hachiro said that the expression was ''inappropriate'' as it could hurt the feelings of people in the disaster-hit area. ''I retract my statement and apologize deeply,'' he said. english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 9/9/2011 11:10:32 AM

blood type b probably...
by Edano 9/9/2011 11:11:26 AM

Residents asked by city to store radioactive waste in thick plastic bags!! Radioactive waste disposal conundrum slowing recovery efforts FUKUSHIMA -- The law had not anticipated the radioactive contamination beyond the gates of nuclear power plants, and has left not only Fukushima Prefecture but also municipalities in the Tokyo metropolitan area with radiation-tainted waste that has no place to go. The road to resolution and recovery remains bumpy, despite a special measures law implemented in response to the disaster at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. mdn.mainichi.jp
by Luisa edited by Edano 9/9/2011 11:11:55 AM

FOCUS: Town of Kaminoseki continues promoting nuclear plant despite Fukushima

YAMAGUCHI, Sept. 9, Kyodo

On a local road leading to the site of the planned Kaminoseki Nuclear Power Station in Yamaguchi Prefecture in western Japan is a billboard sign that reads, ''People who stand in the way of Genden (nuclear power plant), don't come to Kaminoseki town.''

Locals said the board was ordered before the March 11 disaster that struck the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in eastern Japan and caused the worst nuclear plant crisis in the country. It was installed immediately after the crisis occurred, they said.

''Genden'' is a term used by proponents of the nuclear power project in the town to describe a nuclear power plant, which is typically abbreviated in Japanese as ''genpatsu.'' english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 9/9/2011 11:15:12 AM