
@Puc I don't know if medical waste could make up that big of an amount? What else could cause it?
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 7:28:10 PM

TEPCO released some huge report nobody asked for that claims unit 3 didn't melt through on the 20th of March. Around the same time the unit lost pressure and there was loads of black smoke belching out of the reactor well.
ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 9/9/2011 8:23:48 PM

@Cryptococcus the iodine levels seem odd. I want to ask others as they show up. They might have better idea what it means.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 8:47:36 PM

@Cryptococcus just got back in. Will see if I can get someone to translate that post.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 11:17:40 PM

@Cryptococcus Reading through the google trans of that it mentions a new METI report that supposedly quietly mentions plutonium findings. The blogger says it was released with a benign title to not call attention to it. I will see if I can get an English version of the METI document.
This would explain why they suddenly released that big document claiming unit 3 didn't remelt or melt through on the 21st of March. Trying to CYA for the METI report coming out. METI report
www.meti.go.jpby lillymunster 9/9/2011 11:23:53 PM

Here is the document METI put out on Aug 26 that the blogger is talking about
www.meti.go.jpby lillymunster 9/9/2011 11:27:09 PM

In the METI document, first table is released isotopes based on June IAEA meeting/report time. Second page table is estimated releases from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 11:30:02 PM

Synopsis of the article, METI produced that isotope chart for IAEA in June but sat on it til Aug 26. TEPCO has been not or under reporting plutonium claiming they don't have equipment to test for it. Media has not been aggressive on the issue due to ties to nuclear industry.
Is there anything we can determine from the isotope chart?
by lillymunster 9/9/2011 11:49:05 PM


enenews.com
i found another reference for high i131 readings enenews.com
"Iodine-131 now being detected in large amounts almost 200 km from Fukushima meltdowns
Oshu City is located 187 kilometers north of Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant.
The city announced the latest survey of radioactive materials in sewer sludge in a sewage treatment center in the city, and it shows iodine-131 being detected in the sludge cake since August 25. [...]
The city says it has stopped the shipment of sludge cakes from this plant because of the high radioactive iodine concentration detected from the August 25 sample [...]
Here is what nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen said about the presence of iodine-131 back in April:
Iodine-131 can only come from nuclear fission, and because it has a short life, it disappears after about 80 days.
In other words, the presence of iodine-131 suggests that the [nuclear] fuel has started its own chain reaction without any human intervention."


What is your take on those numbers?
by lillymunster 9/10/2011 12:16:41 AM

it's been found in sludge. what does it mean ? is it from the sea or the rain ?
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:19:27 AM

i assume it is radiation from the air washed out by rain into the sludge.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:24:54 AM

@Edano it sounds like city sewage so rain would be likely. How long is the total life of Iodine 131. If the half life is 8 days when it that completely gone?
by lillymunster 9/10/2011 12:25:24 AM

@lillymunster 80 days should be untedectable again, but with a higher initial concentration, it can last longer.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:26:59 AM

august 25 corresponds with the steam out of the soil around #1. and the high rad readings in drywell. it may stem from #1 corium which is already outside the containment in the soil or groundwater. i don't think the sfps are so hot anymore.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:29:33 AM

@Edano so small amounts still left, concentrated creates a detectible amount? Do you think the recriticality thing is unlikely?
by lillymunster 9/10/2011 12:29:48 AM

BRB, need to run down to the store
by lillymunster 9/10/2011 12:31:24 AM

@lillymunster the corium in #1 shows recriticality from time to time, you can see that in the rad spikes.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:31:29 AM

@Majj i agree to that, plus radioactive steam seems to find its way thru the soil into the air.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:33:21 AM

assumed corium state imo:
#1 showing recriticality, in groundwater since beginning of august, steaming thru the soil into the air.
#2 possibly broken thru containment and basement on august 11.
#3 outside the rpv since march 20-24, now inside concrete basement.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:41:31 AM

@Peter
fukushima-diary.com same in Tokyo, Niigata City and Nagano City.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:51:50 AM

all 4 cities are far away (~300 km) from fuku, arranged on a circle, reaching until the west coast. it's a bit strange.
by Edano 9/10/2011 12:57:51 AM

@Peter i dont know.
by Edano 9/10/2011 1:04:18 AM

Oshu City is north of Sendai in the far north of the main island, looking for nearby nuclear plants
by lillymunster 9/10/2011 1:28:45 AM

EU to extend restrictions on Japanese foodThe European Union will continue testing food imports from Japan for radioactive contamination through the end of the year.
The EU announced the decision on Friday.
Following the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, the EU tightened import conditions on farm and marine products from 12 Japanese prefectures, including Tokyo.
All products from these prefectures must be accompanied by documents issued by Japanese authorities confirming that they contain radiation below EU-permitted levels.
The EU says it will review its controls each month from next year.
The EU is also asking the Japanese government to ensure that all food products from other areas correctly display their place of origin.
Saturday, September 10, 2011 08:58 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 9/10/2011 1:29:02 AM