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  • @Andrea C. you're on auto approve now :)
    by Edano 10/17/2011 10:46:44 PM

  • english.kyodonews.jp

    Burning debris in Iwate Pref.
    Firefighters on Oct. 17, 2011, hose down stored debris created by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami which has been burning for a week in the town of Yamada, Iwate Prefecture. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp

    by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/17/2011 10:52:28 PM

  • Just got back. @Elaine - I have not seen any TEPCO news today.
    @Andrea C - Hi!
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 10:54:50 PM

  • www.tepco.co.jp
    Report with regard to "Policy on the mid and long term security" for the Units 1 to 4 of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station to Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (1)
    report in english to follow thats about it bar the standard stuff
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 10:57:37 PM

  • 2. A real NE is conservative by nature and training. Really, really conservative. They run simulations for YEARS before anything is attempted. Yes, years. Anyone coming online or appearing in the media with the reassuring "we're working on it - it's cool" platitudes is nowhere near the engineering, in any country. Let me assure you, my uncle is furiously communicating with every colleague (retirement be damned), as is every veteran NE in the world. Not one of these people, who know the gravity of this situation better than anyone else on the planet, is hanging out on line or doing interviews. Veteran NE of the world are collectively crapping their pants. Fukushima represents a catastrophic failure for every genuine NE out there. It's like God has died for them. It's that bad.
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 10:58:02 PM

  • @Andrea C. is anybody listening to them or asking advice? or is it as it seems to me that tepco have shut the doors to everybody
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:01:20 PM

  • At 2:06 pm on October 7, we started to spray purified accumulated water
    brought from Unit 5 and 6 continually in order to prevent dust scattering
    and potential fire outbreaks from the cut down trees.
    www.tepco.co.jp
    they still have this on their status reports do you think they will continue till they have got rid of all the stored water?
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:02:28 PM

  • Fukushima nuclear evacuees to undergo mental health checks

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Oct. 17, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:03:56 PM

  • @elainekirk @elainekirk Don't know about now. Prior to Fuku the IAEA tried to give the Japanese nuclear industry some advice and the representative they spoke to refused the help as it would give the illusion they were not perfect or ahead of everyone else. He was more worried about the illusion than actually being there.
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:04:44 PM

  • Decontamination starts in Fukushima city

    The city of Fukushima, about 60 kilometers from the crippled Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, will start to remove radioactive materials from all private houses in the city on Tuesday.

    The city has high levels of radiation in some areas. The plan aims to lower radiation levels to 1 microsievert per hour in all 110,000 households in the city within the next 2 years.

    The decontamination will start on Tuesday in an area with 360 households, where relatively high levels of radiation have been measured.

    Under the plan, professional cleaners commissioned by the city will scrub radioactive substances from roofs and ditches of the houses with high-pressure equipment.

    The garden soil will be removed and all the roads used by elementary and junior high school students and nearby forests will be decontaminated as well.

    The city will hire professional cleaners for areas with relatively high radiation levels and for work on roofs and other dangerous places, but residents and volunteers will be required to remove the rest by themselves.

    It has yet to be determined how to dispose of the contaminated sludge and the government is under pressure to come up with a solution soon.

    Tuesday, October 18, 2011 02:06 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:05:47 PM

  • 3. Perhaps most importantly, a real nuclear engineer would never, never, ever say radiation, in any amount is "safe". My uncle is proud of his and his colleagues achievements. He absolutely believes in his work of helping bring power - nuclear generated power - to the people. He feels, almost a little smugly, that his country runs the best NP program out there. Whatever. But he would never make the claims so many inexperienced wannabees, ivory tower dwellers, and shills have made repeatedly over the last several months. "it's cool.." Yeah, it's cool for worldwide NEs right now, cool like a lake of fire in hell.
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 11:07:46 PM

  • @Andrea C. , something went fundamentally wrong with the assumptions. Perhaps you may once in a while ask your uncle a question from us.
    by Peter 10/17/2011 11:08:08 PM

  • @Edano why does that make me worried? Hope we can find the full article with details. Are they making sure mental health services are available or compelling people to go under a mental evaluation?
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:09:01 PM

  • @Edano @Edano nonono that must not happen !! this stinks stinks
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:09:33 PM

  • Fukushima nuclear evacuees to undergo mental health checks

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Oct. 17 -- (Kyodo) _ The Fukushima prefectural government will conduct mental health checks from next month on about 200,000 residents who had to evacuate in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear crisis, its health committee said Monday.

    It will also start conducting checkups on about 20,000 pregnant women within this year, the panel of experts said.

    After the 1986 nuclear disaster in Chernobyl, the number of people suffering from mental illness is believed to have increased due to radiation fears and changes in their living circumstances.

    Residents subject to Fukushima's survey will be divided into four groups -- children up to age 6, elementary school students, junior high school students, and senior high school age and older people.

    As for children up to junior high school age, their parents will be required to check whether any changes in their children's behavior have been observed, such as whether they tend to be scared or get angry suddenly.

    Older people will be required to answer questions regarding stress and posttraumatic stress disorder, as well as whether they have experienced any changes in their lifestyles including sleep and diet after the nuclear disaster.

    The prefectural government will offer telephone consultations or introduce medical institutions to those who may need treatment, the committee said.

    All pregnant women who have been given maternity health record books in the prefecture from August 2010 to July 2011, including those who have evacuated outside Fukushima after the accident, are subject to the checkups, it said.

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    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:11:02 PM

  • Boy, am I getting my narrow little perspective out there with a vengeance. I apologize for the onslaught.
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 11:11:53 PM

  • @Andrea C. keep going. :-)
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:12:32 PM

  • @Edano Oh that does not bode well.
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:14:27 PM

  • @Andrea C. true words.
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:19:18 PM

  • @elainekirk - is TEPCO listening. Something tells me they have been provided with every last iota of data and advice concerning this disaster. I'm pretty sure there are people on the ground in Japan, courtesy of the US govt and perhaps France, who are bending some stiff heads over these documents and are making sure they get read. What good it's doing - who knows. The US and France are desparate to resolve this situation for the sake of their ambitious nuclear plans, only secondly for the sake of humanity.
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 11:19:44 PM

  • @Andrea C. DoE has had ppl on the ground for months.
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:20:31 PM

  • @Andrea C. I think if tepco were listening and involving others then those emergency procedure mauals would have been in the governments hands as requested surely nobody would endorse them being withheld when they could give such insilght into what went wrong
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:23:37 PM

  • @Edano all women who have given birth since last year is bad it means if they went to try and get their children tested for radiation harm whatever the findings of the questionable tests could be used to label them and discredit their concerns
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:26:49 PM

  • @Peter-believe me, I am dying to give my uncle the third degree, but I don't think he is even talking about this with his own wife and sons (they are very close). One of my cousins is anti-nuke, which my uncle accepts without rancour (take that all of you "support
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 11:28:09 PM

  • US Beef Restrictions Might be Eased

    Restrictions on the import of US beef to Japan might be eased.

    Currently only cows which are 20 months or younger can be imported to Japan, but this may be raised to 30 months or younger.

    The restrictions on beef have been in place to prevent meat infected with mad cow disease, or BSE - bovine spongiform encephalopathy - from reaching Japanese markets.

    In 2003 tainted beef was discovered during inspections and US beef was completely banned.

    Two years later, the ban was partially lifted. Beef from cows which were 20 months or younger, with brains and spinal cords removed, were allowed back in.

    The government says the restriction should be further eased, noting the 20 month or younger stipulation is much stricter than in other countries.

    No cow in the United States has tested positive for mad cow disease for four years, and the number of BSE cases worldwide has also plunged.

    The tentative new policy would be in line with the standard adopted by numerous other countries.

    The government is also considering easing beef imports from Canada, which is currently bound by the same restrictions as the United States, as well as resuming imports from France and the Netherlands.
    No BSE has been detected in Japan since February 2009 and the health ministry is considering revising the assistance they provide local governments to check for BSE in every single cow that goes on the market.

    The ministry is planning to consult the Food Safety Commission the by the end of the year on revising its food policy.

    A member of the Commission, Professor Takashi Onodera of the University of Tokyo, says no cow which is 30 months or younger has tested positive for BSE over about the past 10 years. Thus, safety would not be compromised if Japan eases its restrictions, in light of the world standard.

    But Onodera says consumers are highly conscious of beef safety after the nuclear power plant accident. He adds the government needs to make an effort to explain the BSE situation abroad to consumers.

    Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:14 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:29:47 PM

  • ah- sorry i thought vice versa :)
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:30:35 PM

  • @edano I am going to start charging you for the screen wipes !
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:31:00 PM

  • @edano it says 'might'
    - does that mean it is dependent on a two way street deal?
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:32:14 PM

  • @elainekirk haha - yeah, very clever ! :)
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:32:57 PM

  • gimme your bse, i give you rads.
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:33:54 PM

  • www3.nhk.or.jp decontamination in fuku city

    by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/17/2011 11:36:04 PM

  • sorry - (take that all of you support nuclear power or you're a feckin' idjit fanboys). I think I'm going to have to take a number - just like during Chernobyl, things had to cool down before I could take up his time. FWIW, he worked on Soviet-designed PWRs, and although the upper ranks of the profession may be having intense discussions, I think he would tell civilian me, "Oh, Fukushima has BWRs, American design.... I know nothinggg about those."
    by Andrea C. 10/17/2011 11:36:19 PM

  • @Andrea C. sounds like east german nukes.
    by Edano 10/17/2011 11:39:12 PM

  • Hi folks
    by bo 10/17/2011 11:43:37 PM

  • @bo Hi!
    by lillymunster 10/17/2011 11:48:40 PM

  • @bo hi bo
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:49:05 PM

  • @bo whats your take on the mental health checks?
    by elainekirk 10/17/2011 11:49:32 PM

  • Hi all. I haven't read the mental health checks article yet. Do you have a link? I'm sure people are very mentally distressed, but I don't know if the motive here is to help them or to label those who are distressed?
    by bo 10/17/2011 11:58:39 PM

  • @bo my post 50 min ago "Fukushima nuclear evacuees to undergo mental health checks"
    by Edano 10/18/2011 12:00:48 AM

  • Thanks. Hey @Edano, do we know any more about the cracks in the ground and the steam releases?
    by bo 10/18/2011 12:02:04 AM

  • The link doesn't go through for me.
    by bo 10/18/2011 12:03:42 AM

  • @elainekirk - there's no doubt TEPCO is behaving like dissembling scum. Protecting the bottom line, gagging everyone working for them, employee or contractor. But I get the feeling the US had a line on the exact state of the Fukushima NPP, both before and during the crisis, in fairly short order. They have their ways. ;)
    by Andrea C. 10/18/2011 12:05:46 AM

  • @Andrea C., it's true that nuclear engineers lives are centered around nuclear safety, but doesn't it follow that being still more obsessed with safety would entail leaving genotoxic substances like uranium in the ground? And even more unsafe than just mining uranium is transforming it into far more genotoxic materials such as plutonium. Seems to me, however safety-centric NEs may be, the anti-nuke position is inherently safer still.
    by Ian 10/18/2011 12:08:51 AM

  • @bo I cant make it work hope edano can help
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:10:00 AM

  • @bo @elainekirk *http://dialog.newsedge.com/portal.asp?site=2007100814443105593225&searchfolderid=pg2007100814522209759333&block=default&portlet=ep&nzesm=on&syntax=advanced&display=Asia+Pacific+Education&action=sitetopics&mode=realtime&nzenb=left&criteria=[topic%3Deduap]&searchID=730071&datetime=[t-minus%3D7]&hdlaction=story&storyid=[storyid=Jg9emaOBKEOxnLu5dGFPV2xGcVHbyEnWlMqHekqBFmgDullX9i8mLVv8ROHq-Ia3UC-7MaTZWB0hX5B4H5nKJQ**]&rtcrdata=on&epname=USDOLLAR& without the star
    by Edano 10/18/2011 12:10:41 AM

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