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  • english.kyodonews.jp

    PM Noda inspects decontamination work in Fukushima
    Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda (R) looks at a radiation dosimeter placed in the garden of a house in the Onami district in the city of Fukushima on Oct. 18, 2011. The prime minister the same day made his second visit to Fukushima Prefecture since taking office the previous month, to observe work to remove radioactive substances leaked from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. (Pool photo by Kyodo News)(Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp

    by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/18/2011 10:59:27 AM

  • english.kyodonews.jp

    Decontamination work in Fukushima
    A worker removes radioactive substances, leaked from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, from the garden of a house in the Onami district in the city of Fukushima on Oct. 18, 2011. The city, which is situated about 60 kilometers from the nuclear plant, began implementing a major decontamination project the same day. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp

    by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/18/2011 11:00:22 AM

  • TEPCO to ask gov't for 700 bil. yen to meet compensation needs

    TOKYO, Oct. 18, Kyodo

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. plans to ask the government for roughly 700 billion yen in aid to cover its immediate compensation payments in connection with the nuclear disaster at its power plant in Fukushima Prefecture, sources familiar with the matter said Tuesday.

    The aid is expected to form the main pillar of a forthcoming special operating plan to be formulated in early November with a state-backed fund-providing body called the Nuclear Damage Liability Facilitation Fund, the sources said.

    The amount of money the operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi power plant, known as TEPCO, will have to pay in compensation by the end of March 2013 is projected to reach 4.54 trillion yen. english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 10/18/2011 11:01:33 AM

  • @Edano it is autumn coming up wnter and it will rain and freeze annd snow and winds will blow so what do Japan do? they and their collaberators the IAEA inform the people that turning the soil is the ideal solution and will reduce disposal problems- can nobody challenge these lies
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 11:03:20 AM

  • running through recent government files on sellafield and this is a magnox doc www.nda.gov.uk
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 11:08:48 AM

  • this page may be worth keeping I am going to go read some of the submissions see if they shed any light anywhere
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 11:14:33 AM

  • @elainekirk Sounds like it would be somewhat direct to take a Magnox processing plant and turning one into a MOX processing plant. I am assuming Selafield had more than one and they were of a better standard than the original plutonium factories at Hanford.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 11:16:22 AM

  • One of the mentions from last week about needing a new MOX plant uk.reuters.com
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 11:20:48 AM

  • Here is the one where UK talking of building new mox plant www.independent.co.uk
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 11:22:20 AM

  • @lillymunster it stinks of misinformation we arent geting the whol pic mia's link on org says nothing is definnate
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 11:38:55 AM

  • this is a sept gov doc
    Achieve major milestones on high hazard ponds and silos at Sellafield, including the
    installation of retrieval infrastructure in pond B30 (due to complete Mar 2014)Achieve major milestones on high hazard ponds and silos at Sellafield, including the
    installation of retrieval infrastructure in pond B30 (due to complete Mar 2014) docs.google.com
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 11:44:56 AM

  • The manufacture of mixed oxide (MOX) nuclear fuel at Sellafield is to stop "at the earliest practical opportunity" to reduce the financial risks to British taxpayers from events in Japan...
    The two major elements in the UK's strategy for the back-end of the nuclear fuel cycle were SMP and the Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant (Thorp), at which used nuclear fuel is reprocessed to separate uranium and plutonium from wastes that go on to be vitrified ready for permanent disposal.

    A document released in March 2010 highlighted that Thorp would require refurbishment or replacement to handle the complete inventory of used nuclear fuel it was built to process - all that coming from the fleet of Advanced Gas-cooled Reactors (AGR) as well as international contracts. Some 6600 tonnes of AGR fuel remains outstanding, with options for storing it unclear until a permanent repository is available in about 2030.
    www.world-nuclear-news.org
    by M.I.A. 10/18/2011 11:47:11 AM

  • Dated 3Aug2011
    by M.I.A. 10/18/2011 11:48:01 AM

  • So is Selafield's MOX processing all dependent on Japan using MOX fuel? Is the UK intending to burn any MOX themselves? My understanding was not but also not totally sure.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 11:49:21 AM

  • A decision by the UK government on whether to construct a new mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel plant to replace the existing one at the Sellafield nuclear complex is expected to be made before the end of 2011. www.world-nuclear-news.org
    by M.I.A. 10/18/2011 11:50:50 AM

  • link below dated Jan2011. Also in article: As well as the fate of the 100 tonnes of civil plutonium in the UK and its potential inclusion in MOX fuel, discussion continues over the future of Thorp. In short, the country's entire strategy on the back-end of the fuel cycle is up for review.
    Looks like they're reprocessing fuel to deal with UK's own radwaste and make money reprocessing their "constituent members" (i.e. consortium):: "It should be stressed that at least some of the constituent members of the nuclear management partnership which is currently responsible for a large part of the waste management at Sellafield have considerable experience of running successful MOX plants elsewhere in the world."
    by M.I.A. 10/18/2011 11:58:12 AM

  • @M.I.A. they re twixt the devil and the deep blue sea
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:04:04 PM

  • My takeaway: The mox plant atSellafield is a total 'fail'. The UK's worried that the GoJ can't/won't finnish the refurbishment work started in 2010 and supposed to take 3 years. Also don't believe the GoJ will buy the mox fuel now, so they're cutting their losses on the 'fried' plant. The worry about 'financial cost to UK taxpayers' refers to that- not accident/decontamination concerns. But they're going to build a NEW and BETTER mox plant to handle theirs' and clients' spent fuel! And this time they're gonna get it RIGHT!
    by M.I.A. 10/18/2011 12:05:53 PM

  • At approximately 11:00 am, while we
    were replacing the motor of the pumps (H2-2) in the skid of the
    suspended Cesium absorption apparatus, a puddle of water was found in
    the skid. The cause is currently under investigation. www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:06:04 PM

  • -At around 4:03 pm of October 17, we detected radiation from near the
    mouth of one of our employees who returned to the visitor's hall of
    Fukushima-Daini Nuclear Power Plant from cooling water injection works
    at the second floor of reactor No.1. After a further screening test by
    a whole body counter we concluded that there was no internal exposure.
    -At 6:09 am on October 18, we suspended the Cesium adsorption apparatus
    unit No.1 due to power reinforcement works of the water desalinations.
    At 9:04 am we suspended Unit No,2.
    -At 10:00 am on October 18 we started transferring accumulated water from
    the Turbine building of Unit 6 to the Temporarily built tank. www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:07:50 PM

  • @M.I.A. So the old MOX plant is toast. They have no MOX customers, but want to make MOX fuel and bury it. They are unsure what they are going to do with the THORPE plant. ugh.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 12:33:14 PM

  • @lillymunster blind leading the blind? I posted this link earlier to responses from thers I was going to trawl it see what others say oh shucks I cant find post will go find link again must have forgotten to post
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:39:28 PM

  • www.hse.gov.uk
    HSE Guidance Industries Office for Nuclear Regulation Reports Fukushima and the UK nuclear industry Submissions of information
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:40:25 PM

  • good morning dear people
    by dean 10/18/2011 12:50:51 PM

  • Airlines: Chilean volcano's ashes ground flights www.businessweek.com
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:56:16 PM

  • @dean good morning
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 12:56:24 PM

  • hi @elaine.. I am not broken up over the fact that the MOX fuel processing facility and subsequent use of MOX fuel in NPP's may all come to an end. I haven't been a proponent of the MOX since back in the day of testing the fuel systems.
    by dean 10/18/2011 12:58:36 PM

  • @dean yes I know you doubt the wisdom in trying to control the uncontrolable aspect of it, you are a very wise mentor
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 1:02:10 PM

  • ty @ elaine, it all goes back to the fact that these huge plants were built within an assumed safety envelope of operation, systems were sized etc to accomodate the fuel systems assumed. When extreme deviations are made to these enveloping requirements (such as MOX fuel and INCREASING power operation above that originally analyzed, or extending the life of the facility by 20 years) I believe the increased risks far outway the benefits.
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:05:47 PM

  • Morning Dean!

    I would think putting their efforts into the vitrification facility might be the best option?
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:05:48 PM

  • indeed @ lilly or some developing technology...
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:06:20 PM

  • @dean I have visualized running MOX in these old reactors not built for it as akin to overclocking a computer. It might work, it might ruin the critical parts of the computer.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:12:09 PM

  • Edano says Japan still considering ending nuclear power www.reuters.com
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:15:27 PM

  • @lilly and @ elaine.. another possibility which the industry tries to push is the burnup limit on fuel elements, ie: a typical fuel element burns up 6 percent or so of the fuel prior to being sent to the SFP. Utility companies want their reactors to be running at design capacities for profitable operations. How bout we suggest taking that partially burnt up fuel and run them in reactors that operate at lower power levels while still producing productive electricity in order to burn more of the useable fuel... running a reactor at 1/2 power makes a huge difference in the operating nuclear physics analyses...
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:17:00 PM

  • imagine taking a 1965 chevrolet and putting a 5000 hp dragster engine in it and then see what happens as it tries to approach 330 mph in around 4.5 sec's at a drag strip. to achieve that the 1965 chevrolet must withstand a force of 4G's during the acceleration ... whewwwwwwwwwww
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:24:37 PM

  • Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons (5.7 liters) of nitromethane per second.
    A fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

    One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.
    A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:26:10 PM

  • a few stats for those monster dragsters...
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:26:30 PM

  • @dean :-) Good analogy. :-)
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:29:08 PM

  • In Ireland there is great anger about the radioactive material that is pumped from Sellafield into the Irish Sea and fear of the consequences of a nuclear accident or terrorist attack on Sellafield. Reflecting this, Irish energy minister, Joe Jacob, described Blair’s decision as ‘incomprehensible’. He said that his government will exploit ‘every legal avenue’ to try to stop it. Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace are also considering legal action, using European Union or United Nations laws or conventions. Under European law, the plant has to be economically viable to justify its radioactive discharges. Challenges are being made on this issue because BNFL has only managed to obtain orders from Germany and Switzerland for Mox fuel, orders that would require just 40% of the plant’s capacity.

    The biggest generator of nuclear energy in Britain, privatised British Energy, has refused to use Mox fuel. Japan had been lined up as a key buyer, but pulled out in 1999 when it was revealed that BNFL had forged quality control records for early versions of the fuel.
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:32:22 PM

  • Blair, in whipping up support for British involvement in the US military retaliation following 11 September, also warned that terrorists would make nuclear bombs ‘if they could’. Despite his own warning, as well as those of others, he proceeded to follow the advice of the top financiers and took the decision, on 3 October, to allow the Mox plant to go ahead. This decision follows five ‘consultations’ over the licensing of the plant since it was built in 1996. The government justified the decision by saying that the Office for Civilian Nuclear Security has declared there to be no risk attached to the new plant. But this ‘security’ body is financed by the government’s Department of Trade and Industry, the same department that owns and controls British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) which, in turn, runs the Sellafield nuclear complex.
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:33:30 PM

  • @dean Japan also returned the 1999 load of faulty MOX fuel BNFL sent over.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:36:04 PM

  • @dean that mans name makes me apoplexic
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 1:36:25 PM

  • Um.

    Office for Civilian Nuclear Security has declared there to be no risk attached to the new plant. But this ‘security’ body is financed by the government’s Department of Trade and Industry, the same department that owns and controls British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) which, in turn, runs the Sellafield nuclear complex.
    by lillymunster 10/18/2011 1:38:17 PM

  • www.hse.gov.uk

    European Council “Stress Tests”  
    for UK Nuclear Power Plants
    National Progress Report
    15 September 2011
    by elainekirk 10/18/2011 1:39:56 PM

  • PROLIFERATION WORLDWIDE

    A U.S. plutonium fuel program would send a clear signal to other countries: the U.S. government approves of separated plutonium fuel programs. This would undercut the government's ability to discourage reprocessing in other countries and may encourage other countries to pursue plutonium programs. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Director John Holum explained the situation clearly in a memorandum to former Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary:

    "U.S. decisions on plutonium disposition are inextricably linked with U.S. efforts to reduce stockpiles as well as limit the use of plutonium worldwide. The multi-decade institutionalization of plutonium use in US commercial reactors would set a very damaging precedent for US non-proliferation policy."

    The alternative, to encase the plutonium in ceramics or glass (immobilization), will not affect the government's non-proliferation goals, nor encourage civilian reprocessing in the U.S. or elsewhere. Immobilizing plutonium will send the proper signal that plutonium is a dangerous waste and needs to be treated as such.
    by dean 10/18/2011 1:39:56 PM

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