Well no big deal then. Nothing of consequence released. grrrrrrrr
by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 11:08:01 PM
@RadioGuy : maybe from nagasaki ? what happenened to all that plutonium over nagasaki ?
by Matsuoko 3/28/2011 11:08:14 PM
Plutonium is an especially toxic and long-lasting radioactive material,said Akira Tokuhiro, professor of mechanical and nuclear engineering at the University of Idaho. . One plutonium isotope has a half-life of 1 million years.
by audi 3/28/2011 11:08:37 PM
NHK says .54 becquerel of pleutonium found and that it isn't considered to be diffused so widely
by CaraBnr 3/28/2011 11:08:41 PM
@Jo Lindien I am Baffled as to what would cause that strange mix of symptoms...we need Dean.
by gabe 3/28/2011 11:09:00 PM
@Matsuoko @Sin: r#4 has been behaving ok since lst 3-4 right? Haven't heard any news about it for last 2-3 days..Did i miss smtg/
by Optim 3/28/2011 11:09:15 PM
two things: eye witness report of earthwuake at plant. one question is geology of the plant site, I assume it was a man made site, a embankment or platform created by bulldozers at a certain level above shore. www.peopleforum.cn
by Pat 3/28/2011 11:09:15 PM
@ALL- did you see this already: english.kyodonews.jp Detected in N and S Carolina and Florida now.
by Meretisa 3/28/2011 11:09:16 PM
I thoiught half life was 211,000 years
by CaraBnr 3/28/2011 11:09:22 PM
yeah, well, .54 Bq/kg is about one billionth the concentration/activity of cesium they found in the water.. just to put it in perspective...
@Optim : they constantly spray it with that monster concrete pump. that should help until they have to evacuate the whole plant ....
by Matsuoko 3/28/2011 11:11:32 PM
@CaraBnr Pu is difficult to diffuse widely.
by gabe 3/28/2011 11:11:36 PM
@gabe: I hope the pressure mesurements are false. The only way I can figure such a drop in pressure is a very quick oxydation consuming all available air in there; in other term some kind of fire. Hope that's not the way it is.
by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 11:11:40 PM
I'm having trouble following the layers of subtext here. First they announce huge radioactivity, then oops, we were wrong, then they test Pu in the soil, and have 100% success, then they admit a release from the core, then they say it's no worse than background from testing in the 50s and 60s. Talk about a mixed message.
by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 11:11:59 PM
@Jo Linden the pressure readings in R2 have been that low for almost a week
by sims 3/28/2011 11:12:42 PM
It's never been clear to me what the A and B pressure numbers are, and whether they are absolute pressure or difference above/below atmospheric. The guy who put together the graphs pinned in the header to this page seems to have figured it out though, don't you think?
by Sky 3/28/2011 11:13:06 PM
@RadioGuy they always find an excuse for anything. very clever mr edano.
by Matsuoko 3/28/2011 11:13:06 PM
@RadioGuy or we all should have been a lot more nervous in the 50's and 60's...oops...I'm probably one of few who was here then......lol
by MaryMary 3/28/2011 11:13:11 PM
@Karen Warren: of course taxpayer will cover the cost. Maybe you don't know but here, in France, all insurence contracts says that there will never be any coverage in case of a nuclear accident.
by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 11:13:19 PM
@Jo Lindien What about the temp at the nozzle falling though?
by gabe 3/28/2011 11:13:44 PM
More perspective: I spent my childhood (mid-50s to mid-60s) in the US Midwest. Got lots of extra radiation from atmospheric nuclear tests during that time period. Tests were conducted in the US, Pacific islands, and China. Anyone in the N. hemisphere who was alive then got more radiation as I understand it than any of us, apart from residents of Japan, will get from this incident.
by Alaskan 3/28/2011 11:14:00 PM
Be back in in a bit.
by gabe 3/28/2011 11:14:31 PM
@MaryMary I was a wee pup, and I have a can of tuna hidden in the crawlspace just in case.
by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 11:14:48 PM
@sims: pressure was not so low in #2 reactor. Was about -.2 MPa. Now it's reported as -.3 MPa. It's not so easy to drop the pressure below athmospheric pressure ...
by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 11:14:59 PM
@Jo Lindien Thoughts as to how this is happening? What could cause this?
by Meretisa 3/28/2011 11:15:50 PM
@Jo Lindien @sims There's been speculation about one of the meters being blown enough to give false readings. It was days back, but it could be that.
by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 11:16:01 PM
@jo linden thought it was reported as -0.35 at some pt last week, so whatever is going on there has been going on for a while
by sims 3/28/2011 11:16:49 PM
Soooooooooo, we now have an american Doctor "how convinient" that is advising the Japanese GOVT. due to his experience @Chernobyl, ..to which to this date, NO OFFICIAL statistics are available. That really helps.....
by VeenOui 3/28/2011 11:16:53 PM
@Alaskan ...I can remember my dad telling about flying (WWII Air Corps) coast to coast sharing the airplane cargo area with a bomb...a big bomb....and him being told none of them would probably ever have children.
by MaryMary 3/28/2011 11:17:00 PM
Second thing is who are the players directly involved? Tepco, local firemen, sub contractors? online.wsj.com mentions Tokyo-based Tokai Toso Co. and nuclear-site construction specialist Hokuto Kogyo Co.
by Pat 3/28/2011 11:17:29 PM
14 March Explosion at Reactor 3 in the second frame you can see the fireball start on the east side of the building, and at the same time the lower part of the west side blows out farm6.static.flickr.com
@ MaryMary: make that *should* ever have children!
by Alaskan 3/28/2011 11:17:44 PM
@Sky They take pressure at the top and middle of reactor vessel. at the top, there's mostly steam, the middle is water.
by marie rich 3/28/2011 11:18:08 PM
@gabe: the temp at nozzle falling may be due to the fact they now inject water through the feedwater cooling line instead of the fire extinguish line; then the temperature sensor may be just in the cool water flood.
@MaryMary -- just realized my comment could be taken as me wishing you had never been born -- NOT what I meant!
by Alaskan 3/28/2011 11:18:29 PM
@Alaskan ...lol...I know...I was trying to come back with a snappy reply....
by MaryMary 3/28/2011 11:19:15 PM
Fukushima, Japan – The water in a trench outside the Fukushima Daichi nuclear plant reactor No. 2 building was found to have high level of radiation, according to Kyodo News on Monday, March 28, 2011.
As noted in the report, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) discovered on Sunday afternoon that the radiation level is now more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour, or was said to be about 100,000 times than the normal level.
The concrete trench, which is around 3 meters wide and 4 meters high, is located in the compound of the Fukushima nuclear plant but outside the control of radiation area.
Meanwhile, TEPCO stressed out that the contaminated water is not flowing to the sea, as the affected trench is about 55 meters away from the sea shore.
On the other hand, the company said that the similar trench for the reactor No. 1 has a radiation level of 0.4 millisievert per hour only.
Apparently, the radiation level for reactor No. 3 was not measured due to the difficulty in going near the area, as it is being covered by debris. www.batangastoday.com
by audi 3/28/2011 11:19:35 PM
Expert Explains Plutonium Find Near Japan Plant www.youtube.com
by d_news 3/28/2011 11:20:15 PM
@openmind Good sequence of shots. Thanks. So that was the SFP?
This one's a couple weeks old, but well worth it. This guy knew then what we know now. "Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants: The No BS Info on Japan's Disastrous Nuclear Operators" www.truth-out.org
by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 11:21:37 PM
@sims: you're right; I did not remember having seen the pressure so low before. And you're right: what's going on inside is going for more than a week. Or the pressure sensors give false values all this time, which would be a good news.