Japan Earthquake | Page 181

  • Morning news on HNK at 7 h Japan time
    by oli333 3/28/2011 9:53:54 PM

  • by George Gibb 3/28/2011 9:54:04 PM

  • @George Gibb Japan: this morning the SG convened a meeting of heads of agencies, funds and programs (including IAEA DG, UNDP Administrator, etc.), on the international response to the developments resulting from the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. In his remarks, he encouraged States to adopt innovative measures to strengthen the nuclear safety regime, and expressed his support for calls to reassess the international emergency response framework and the nuclear safety regime. These issues are likely to be taken up at the 5th Review Meeting of the Contracting Parties to the Convention on Nuclear Safety, being convened by IAEA in April, and the High-Level Meeting on Safety and Innovative Uses of Nuclear Energy in Kiev April 19.
    by marie rich 3/28/2011 9:54:06 PM

  • @George Gibb Thanks for keeping us informed of media updates.
    by es 3/28/2011 9:54:32 PM

  • by George Gibb 3/28/2011 9:56:01 PM

  • by George Gibb 3/28/2011 9:57:17 PM

  • @Jo Linden: I have to give TEPCO a little more credit than that. Problem-solving isn't easy when there is no precedent established and the situation remains critical and fluid.
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 9:57:33 PM

  • @watching They're gone now, Sandra died in '96 or '95, I lost touch with the family. Dick died I know. Cay was still living a few years ago and I don't know what happened to San's sister. It's been so long and I live in Texas now.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 9:57:43 PM

  • @Karen Warren I have had that site open since you posted it the first time.. Is good stuff for sure.
    by NHK Listener 3/28/2011 9:58:36 PM

  • by woodrat 3/28/2011 9:58:40 PM

  • Some good stuff there. George. This jumped out at me:

    "I apologize for making people worried," Sakae Muto, vice-president of under-pressure TEPCO, said at a briefing around midnight in Tokyo.

    Yet he stressed the traces of plutonium 238, 239 and 240 were not dangerous and work would not be stopped.

    "It's not at the level that's harmful to human health."
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 9:58:45 PM

  • I haven't seen this link listed--appears to be a type of news aggregator on the Japan disaster:
    by woodrat 3/28/2011 9:58:46 PM

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    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 10:00:11 PM

  • @RadioGuy Well, they aren't succeeding hiding it from us. We made the call on reactor leaks around r. vessel pipes, on probability of spent fuel racks twisted, on 'dna signature of isotopes', on radwater leaking to the sea. We'll see if there is a re-criticality in fuel, if U.S. troops end up helping evac, entombment option process, and prob much more that I don't remember.
    by marie rich 3/28/2011 10:00:14 PM

  • @Joe: What do you know about EDF other than the MOX 'experience?' Can you eloborate a bit? TIA
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:00:44 PM

  • @Marie Rich: Bravo... seriously!
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:01:51 PM

  • @All: large.stanford.edu "Japan was expected to start burning MOX fuel in 16 to 18 commercial reactors by 2010. However, that plan also went off course when a scandal exposed in 1999 that British Nuclear Fuels had fabricated quality assurance data for MOX fuel exported to Japan."

    "Tokyo Electric Power Co., which had planned to load MOX fuel into its commercial reactors, also spread distrust of nuclear energy among Japanese citizens in 2002 when it was discovered to have covered up a series of technical problems. So far, only seven reactors are ready to begin burning the fuel, including the Genkai plant."
    by Tenzing 3/28/2011 10:01:52 PM

  • by George Gibb 3/28/2011 10:02:06 PM

  • @sims Finally an admission, what a strange article though, does it seem to anyone else out there that even with the scant details in the article the conclusion is obvious? There has been a corem melt and subsequent vessel breach. The remaining corem is now cool enough to seal the reactor (maintaining pressure) and at the same time the bottom of the melt that was cooled suddenly by water injection is porous and letting the water straight out. Ok so this is opinion but is in line with corem behavior in TMI, Chernobyl, Sandia Labs corem investigations and several papers published on actual experimental simulated corem melt scenarios. Comments would be appreciated.
    by Gordon 3/28/2011 10:02:58 PM

  • @Radio Guy: I
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:03:20 PM

  • @All: large.stanford.edu "The Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant in the northern region of Aomori, which was the first commercial plant in a nonnuclear-weapon state, has also experienced troubles. Last year scientists said the plant was located above an active geological fault, sparking fears that an earthquake could damage the plant and release radiation."
    by Tenzing 3/28/2011 10:03:39 PM

  • @Jo lyn I agree its scary, but i am not sure TEPCO knows more than they are sayng
    by fitter 3/28/2011 10:03:59 PM

  • @Gordon That would explain the frantic use of helicopters.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 10:04:01 PM

  • Radiation from Japan reactor detected in B.C. seaweed, rainwater; no risk to humans
    “As of now, the levels we’re seeing are not harmful to humans. We’re basing this on Japanese studies following the Chernobyl incident in 1986 where levels of iodine-131 were four times higher than what we’ve detected in our rainwater so far,” Starosta said. “Studies of nuclear incidents and exposures are used to define radiation levels at which the increase in cancer risk is statistically significant. When compared to the information we have today, we have not reached levels of elevated risk.”

    Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Radiation+from+Japan+reactor+detected+seaweed+rainwater+risk+humans/4516888/story.html#ixzz1HvzXygEK
    www.vancouversun.com
    by d_news 3/28/2011 10:04:31 PM

  • @Karen: I know that the situation isn't easy for Tepco guys. They seem to act as in the fog; they're not helped by the fact they lost most of measuring instruments. From my feeling of this story, everytime they announced a bad new we soon discovered that a bigger problem was arising.
    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 10:04:34 PM

  • We lack english coverage from Japan newspaper articles.
    by George Gibb 3/28/2011 10:04:57 PM

  • *serious concern* I've been watching the temp and pressure in #1 and worrying that more trouble might happen. Now, NISA hasn't posted plant parameters, when all the 'other guys' posted thiers. If anyone sees thatnew data before I do, please let me know?
    by marie rich 3/28/2011 10:04:57 PM

  • @RadioGuy: Not dangerous!!! It's not at the level that is harmful to human health.??? Geez! I can handle a certain level of 'polite' BS, but that is just simply over-the-top.
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:05:20 PM

  • @George Gibb No nisa reports either
    by NHK Listener 3/28/2011 10:05:47 PM

  • @woodrat: Great link!
    by MaryW 3/28/2011 10:05:49 PM

  • @All: large.stanford.edu "Such fears are not unfounded in an earthquake-prone country that has 54 nuclear reactors in all. In July 2007 a 6.8-magnitude earthquake shook the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Station north of Tokyo, which was the world's largest nuclear power plant in terms of electricity generation. The plant was damaged by the tremors and all seven of its reactors still remain inactive."
    by Tenzing 3/28/2011 10:06:04 PM

  • @fitter There's truth to that. In fact, it's turning out to be the Achilles heel of our disaster preparations. The plans always seem to assume that normal support systems will not be in chaos, when in fact they always are.
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 10:06:29 PM

  • @Karen: about EDF, I live in France. There have been numerous incidents that have leaked radioactivity and CRIIRAD (an independent associationthat started to figure how much the government lied French people about Chernobyl) measures that show spots of radioactivity near some EDF / Areva plant while no warning were reported to the public
    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 10:07:15 PM

  • @marie rich NISA is on NHK now.
    by gabe 3/28/2011 10:07:27 PM

  • by VeenOui via Pointscope01.jp 3/28/2011 10:07:41 PM

  • by oli333 3/28/2011 10:07:44 PM

  • Sorry was
    by gabe 3/28/2011 10:07:47 PM

  • @george gibb I posted a link to video footage of the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant BEFORE the tsunami struck can you put the video on here I am not sure how to do it www.channeI4.com
    by elainekirk edited by George Gibb 3/28/2011 10:07:54 PM

  • @Tenzing: It appears that they have been conditioned.
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:08:45 PM

  • @Karen Warren Yes, they've apparently fallen through all the reassurance mechanisms, and now they're trying to downplay the significance of plutonium. Really?
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 10:09:20 PM

  • Oh this is interesting cdxnode64
    .epa.gov
    by George Gibb 3/28/2011 10:09:35 PM

  • @Jo Lindien: Thanks. Keep a fish eye on that connection.
    by Karen Warren 3/28/2011 10:09:40 PM

  • For those who read French, here's a link to CRIIRAD
    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 10:10:05 PM

  • by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 10:10:12 PM

  • @PETER @ALL the site Tenzing sent Dean is amazing... is this the same type of SFP????... I think we are all assuming that these plant are built to standards that are NOT true.... Please read the second assumtion (pg 1) is a bit scarey.. as we have found out NOT TRUE... very interesting article
    by fitter 3/28/2011 10:10:15 PM

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