Japan Earthquake

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I talked to an old friend the other day. Kinda a woowoo guy but he said something that struck me as a useful thought process in times like these. If you were a time traveler, but you could only go one place, where would you go? Somewhere idyllic? Myself, I'd want to see the fall of Atlantis if it existed. So suppose the only way you could time travel like this was to be borne into the place and live it? So live it. You came to watch this unfold.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 8:10:38 PM

@Dennis, Yikes, true
by Janis 3/26/2011 8:10:45 PM

@Jojo I deeply agree on that, but that was what country have done until 1996. and some exeptions remains, mainly because what was prohibited was the release of barrels, in international seas... but, if it is not barrels, and if it is in your national water, the london convention don't apply ... :(
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:11:03 PM

Meretisa, I guess I meant in dangerous levels...But then how would I know if it was now, I guess.
by Janis 3/26/2011 8:11:20 PM

don't worry... the gov't will declare the radioactivity in everything to be below harmful levels.. thereby making it safe
by tippytoe 3/26/2011 8:11:23 PM

@Dennis Tucker Jr- too bad they keep upping things that are "acceptable" as we become mroe tollerant of it. (sorry spelling/typos)
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:11:39 PM

@radioguy I would kill Marie Curie when she was under 2à ;-)
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:11:56 PM

As a geologist, we are used to thinking in large time scales, but the human in me still reels at this.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 8:12:12 PM

@radioguy agreed. we are all here, right now, for a reason. we are here to witness, to learn, and to live. I pray we make the differences we are meant to make.
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:12:33 PM

LOL Who said you could change anything? ;)
by radioguy 3/26/2011 8:12:34 PM

@Janis Absolutely. There are plenty of fish swimming right now in contaminated waters. There will be health problems from that. And one difference from this compared to the Gulf oil spill is the long-lasting nature of some elements. What kinds of cancer can fish get?
by Jojo 3/26/2011 8:13:04 PM

@Jim Carver as a geologist, what is 200 000 years, in terms of earth, then in term of human ?
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:13:11 PM

Fish don't respect national borders. Neither do currents.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 8:13:32 PM

@Jojo : all kinds of cancer.
by Matsuoko 3/26/2011 8:14:03 PM

@Jim Carver I should have be more precise : fault line have been said to have moved for 30 meters under Japan. on the ground, some place have moved from 5 meters to the west... So , in 200 000 years, what could be the situation of Japan ???
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:15:22 PM

@Future Isnow 200 000 years is about a second in a day of the earth. In human times, about 10% of the time our species has been around.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 8:15:30 PM

don't forget the genetical damage of radiation. it alters the DNA. it's not just cancer that people face.
by Matsuoko 3/26/2011 8:15:32 PM

I really like the article from the guy in Venezuela about the reason there is no life on Mars is that they invented capitalism.
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 8:16:02 PM

damage of radioation www.youtube.com
by hans 3/26/2011 8:16:14 PM

@Radioguy- we all have choice... I meant that some people have those choices to make that will affect us all. i pray they do the right things.
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:16:16 PM

@Future Isnow Wow, do you guys have private non-profits in France testing the water? I live in Southern California we have groups like Save Our Beach, though I don't think they test for radioactivity.
by Jojo 3/26/2011 8:16:41 PM

5 am JST pointscope01.jp
by kgriff via Pointscope01.jp 3/26/2011 8:17:06 PM

I am starting to lose hope now, to be honest.
by jgbarr 3/26/2011 8:17:11 PM

I'm still boggling at Geithner saying he didn't think this would impact the Economic Recovery™ I live on the rim, and I can see market fears driving many products out of the markets.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 8:17:12 PM

link for the fukashima webcam www.tepco.co.jp
by kgriff 3/26/2011 8:17:59 PM

@jgbarr That is the one thing you cannot lose. We (us here) have been brought together to bolster eachother as we go through this. We are here to help each other through information and shared concerns. HUGS.
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:18:19 PM

@Jim Carver last question, I type too much ;) you say that 200 000 years is "about 10% of the time our species has been around." I agree on that, and everyone must agree. So what do you think about human, in 2011, who make energy whith some waste that will need 200 000 years to be not harmfull . does it make sense for you ?
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:18:25 PM

@George Gibb : good anecdote. but in this respect, Venus is the better example of post-capitalistic action than Mars. they have an intense warming up there.
by Matsuoko 3/26/2011 8:18:53 PM

Reuters Engineers toil to pump out Japan plant www.reuters.com
by kgriff 3/26/2011 8:20:18 PM

The British dumped radioactive waste in the Irish Sea and the French in the English Channel. The Irish have been worried about this for many years - interesting article mentions risks of living in coastal areas, particular those with estuaries and mud flats.
by andyjsha 3/26/2011 8:20:23 PM

www.greenaudit.org
by andyjsha 3/26/2011 8:20:28 PM

I'm actually hopeful in a strange way, because we absolutely needed something to shake us out of our complacency and make us stop believing the corporate PR so readily. Questions will be asked. Answers will have to be dragged out, but the questions at this point are not going away. That's good.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 8:20:33 PM

@all I have a request/idea. Because there are so many brilliant intellects and hearts communicating here can we pool our resources and create a discussion based on how we can effect a positive change in the way Nuclear Energy is regulated (including construction and location of sites) from a global perspective and the possibilities/ideas about what seems to be the inevitable entombment of Fukushima Plant 1. I do believe we are living in what may become a turning point in history.
by Tenzing 3/26/2011 8:21:09 PM

@radioguy AGREED! I pray that this horrible thing wakes us all up!
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:21:11 PM

@Jojo : the French are real hardliners towards nuclear energy. 80% of their energy is nuclear, but people do not care a lot.
by Matsuoko 3/26/2011 8:21:51 PM

@Future Isnow I'm figuring the displacement at 1-2 miles with a quick and dirty calculation. Landscape doesn't change that much in that short amount of time.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 8:22:00 PM

@Tenzing Agreed. We have a chance (at this time) to change the course of history. I agree. Let's pool together. There is a reason why we are all here together.
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 8:22:03 PM

@jgbarr Don't... this blog say the good and the bad, you have to make your opinion, an average opinion . don't lost hope, it make you weak . remember one thing : the man wo take the first picture of chernobyl, from a chopper, is the only one who is still live, and he was shooting from the outside. I remember his words: you have to say no, you must eat well, and fight. you can find it in a movie called "battle for Tchernobyl"
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:22:56 PM

and Fukushima is NOT chernobyl for now...
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:23:28 PM

@Future Isnow Future technology may be able to recycle and deal with it. This is beyond our capability at the present time. That's the reason we shouldn't be playing with it. Like a kid with matches.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 8:25:39 PM

@Matsuoko: we Do care about it! except we're not listened at all; too much profit in it to think of new sources of energy, I guess...
by nestor 3/26/2011 8:26:12 PM

@Jim Carver on the ground , 5 meters is not alot, not a mile, ok . but for a country which moved 0.58 cm a YEAR, each years or so, to move suddenly 5 meter west ... that talk
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 8:27:13 PM