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George...could you come over to the FB chat for a moment?

@Meretisa they just needed it . a lot of people agree now to say that Chenobyl have been more important to kill USSR regim, than any other thing. It have cost them a lot, and when I read in newspapers that japan will be the mostexpensive disaster, that's not true, for now. Chernobyl have put USSR on his knees. I hope Jpan will be able to manage it, but, in a land of profit, we could had surpises. what if Tepco goes for bankrupcy, for instance ????

Hey Dean- do you think it's gonna blow?

@Max unfortunately, no costs for 200 000 years nuclear waste storage are "spared" (don't know the financial time : to make provisions for)

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@Bobbyc1 Isn't that the truth? But money will be the deciding factor if history is any indication.

@Tenzing: this looks like composite material. In this situation, I would likely bet on a composite of metal with ceramic fiber: the metal would give a high resilience, the ceramic fiber would avoid cracks and would help to cope with high temperatures. But the cost of such an entombment would be.... don't even imagine....

So does the dry well hold pressure?

maybe they could use a liquid material like the space shuttle tiles are made of.. something liquid..

it's off-topic again, but I believe clues to what they're thinking is in what they're looking at. testing sea water for Technetium (which breaks down to Ruthenium and Molybdenum; also testing) Lanthanum, and Barium. Research shows that Technetium is extremely rare in occurance. It is a major product of fission, with highest amts. in spent fuel rods. Trying to determine if core or rods causing high radioactivity? Lanthanum is used in 'hydrogen sponges' to absorb hydrogen, which it then gives off as heat. Is it used in reactors for such, Dean? idk. Barium has an extremely short half life, depending on the isotope, and is used to block some atomic emissions (like xrays, for ex.) Most of these - except Technetium- have pretty short half lives, and aren't particularly absorbed by organisms the way Iodine and Cessium are. So why test for them unless they can tell you something? Technetium, depending on the isotope, has a half life of minutes to 210,000yrs.+. And it decays into both beta and gamma radiation. There're alot of isotopes produced by fission, albeit in trace amounts- so why look for some of the more obscure ones?

Futureisnow: you're right, one of the goals of MOX is to try to recycle parts of nuclear waste until we find a solution to do somethingelse with it.

just a sec sinthis

@Meretisa @Janis @Future Isnow I'm in my 50's. The human race has no future if it chooses money over life at this point.

i don't think it is possible to build a stable sarcophagus in an active earthquake area like this. you have to imagine, that every building there ist statically designed to resist continuous trembling of the underground. just pouring concrete has nothing to do with statics, it will just break on the next quake. you cannot build anything big in this area withoutr

Everything is great, except fallout readings are increasing in every prefecture. In Yamagata prefecture, I131 levels are 7500, CS137 levels are 1200. Miyagi and Fukushima continue to not be reported

Link to fallout levels www.mext.go.jp

@all OPINION: Perhaps a change in our definitions of - PROFIT & COST are appropriate if not necessary for the continuation of our species and this planet, just a thought.

got to go out for a while. Thanks to everyone for the news, ideas, links, ... Will come back later

bye Jo

ok sinthia

@Meretisa, know your shaman by his fruits. if he has a good past record of knowing than he is probably on the right track now. there are certainly unexplainables out there. i don't always know what to believe, but i'm paying attention.