Japan Earthquake

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@Alaskan It's 8 days right?
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 10:31:11 PM

hence later a partnership was formed between the government and TEPco
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:31:44 PM

The IAEA has send a team originally to independantly monitor...no word has ever come from them.
Than, they send a second team......no word still.....none of it makes sense.....the only Governments that have this kind of held back information are Communist ....this just doesn't make sense for even IAEA and i do not think highly of them as is.
by VeenOui 3/26/2011 10:32:23 PM

@Jim Carver Iodine131=8 days, Cessium137=30yrs.
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:32:33 PM

but lately the trend has been governments sit back and the corp involved takes lead
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:32:39 PM

Also, runoff into the ocean doesn't immediately get diluted through movement in all three dimensions. Ocean currents can keep pollutants concentrated in a smaller area. If the Ce-137 etc. gets swept into estuaries or coastal marshes, it will be readily bioconcentrated. These areas are nurseries for many forms of marine life. Long-lived top-of-food chain species like marine mammals, seabirds, and large fish will suffer.
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:32:41 PM

Personally, I think it's too preposterous to believe that they haven't done as thorough an evaluation as possible given the circumstances, with every tool at their disposal.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:33:24 PM

which is a scary situation as we're witnessig
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:33:28 PM

And they acted affronted when the USA expanded to 80km
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:34:03 PM

@VeenOui it is my sound card it is kaput
by elainekirk 3/26/2011 10:34:05 PM

@George... exactly. How long did we get all our info from BP last summer?
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:34:09 PM

right from day 1
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:34:26 PM

@elainekirk2001 USB., they sell them."austauschbar"
by VeenOui 3/26/2011 10:35:03 PM

"The IAEA has send a team originally to independantly monitor...no word has ever come from them.
Than, they send a second team......no word still....." it sounds like a bad sci-fi movie VeenOui.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:35:17 PM

You may also be interested in how to treat radioactively contaminated drinking water:
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Maybe someone wants to help with Japanese and other languages?
by CrisisMaven 3/26/2011 10:35:17 PM

@radioguy -- and every story about the Gulf spill that describes its "small" impact gets front page coverage, but when other data about long-term impacts emerges, only scientific journals report it.
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:35:26 PM

I got a question, WHO does the IAEA report to ?
by VeenOui 3/26/2011 10:35:43 PM

Right, so most of the Iodine will be gone in a few weeks. Still too soon to eat it.By that time the Cesium will have built up anyway.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 10:35:47 PM

No walruses were harmed in the oil spill.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:35:52 PM

water purification also covered at CDC.gov
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:35:56 PM

@radioguy -LOL! And no kangaroos harmed in Japan.
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:36:34 PM

The true extent of the BP disaster will never be known since they tied up most research scientist in legal contracts
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:36:44 PM

IAEA reports to stakeholders (meaning nuke countries) via the UN
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:36:44 PM

@Alaskan More whales are alive.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 10:37:52 PM

OK... I have to hit the road for a while and actually do stuff. ;) Later all.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:37:53 PM

@radioguy take care
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 10:38:29 PM

@marie rich Wel;l, this is interesting, didn't the IAEA send inspectors to IRAN and everyone in the world is taking their opinion as to what to do ?
So WHERE is the report on Japan than ?....to my knowledge, they are supposed to be INDEPENDENT ?
by VeenOui 3/26/2011 10:38:52 PM

@VeenOui All governments conceal information they don't want the public to know. For instance, the amount and type of radiation that came out of Three Mile Island is still denied by the US. The Russians originally believed they could keep Chernobyl under wraps until the radiation was detected in Sweden. We still don't know how many people died from Hurricane Katrina. I could go on with examples but the Communists aren't the only people who keep information under wraps.
by James Ward 3/26/2011 10:38:58 PM

@Jim yes. I saw that the whaling company was wiped off the map, but the ships seem to have survived... beached but surviving.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 10:39:07 PM

As independent as any agency of the UN is...
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:39:31 PM

Whales are less likely to die in the next year or two, but once they start eating contaminated plankton or fish . . .
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:40:12 PM

@Everyone... they can only keep this secret for so long. we are talking about a major nuclear event possibly irradiating and afecting all of Japan... MILLIONS of people cannot just be kept secret. The fallout (in all senses) from this are immense.
by Meretisa 3/26/2011 10:40:34 PM

@James Ward In other words, the IAEA holds ZERO reliability to monitor and or report for the public at all !
by VeenOui 3/26/2011 10:40:41 PM

@Mina, perhaps the same stuff that burned those workers feet yesterday, that is high amounts of a beta-emitter.
by Peter Melzer 3/26/2011 10:41:51 PM

The IAEA were set up to promote nuck power, any report the right, should be taken with a pinch of salt, as nuke power is the only reason they are around,
by rob 3/26/2011 10:42:06 PM

@VeenOui You have to remember that the head of the IAEA is also Japanese with long-running interpersonal relationships with the top people in the Japanese Government, senior execs of TEPCO, and the the Japanese NRC. He is not going to say or do anything that will embarrass his fellow countrymen.
by James Ward 3/26/2011 10:42:10 PM

That comparison in der spiegel. Didn't some of what was in Chernobyle go really high in the air? So something at Fukushima would have to blast radioactivity higher up to spread like that? Or were these at Chernobyl low slow spread by the wind.
by Nancy 3/26/2011 10:42:11 PM

I don't think very highly of the UN, but I'll spare you my screed
by marie rich 3/26/2011 10:42:13 PM

All - can we please keep the speculation, hyperbole, and alarmism down? I agree that there is a lot to worry about. But in order to be taken seriously, we need to rely upon FACT, not SPECULATION.
by Joshua Diamond 3/26/2011 10:42:42 PM

Tragedy of the commons. We all "own" the earth but it's in each country's or corporation's best interest to use more than its share of the resources while seeing others regulated more. We need to demand 100% transparency from all governments and corps.
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:43:05 PM

@Joshua Diamond When you get the straight information from TEPCO and the Japanese Government, please let us know so that we can speculate less.
by James Ward 3/26/2011 10:44:01 PM

oyama-shi in tochigi ken is considered the northerrnmost part of greater tokyo, although it is still pretty built up further north in utsunomiya too, about 100km from tokyo station, though still over 100km from the plant - Sendai to the north is much closer which is not good news with such fragile infrastructure up there
by andyjsha 3/26/2011 10:44:24 PM

maybe some thousand revolutionary whales lined up and created the big wave. i apologize if this is too bad ... just a picture in my head ...
by Matsuoko 3/26/2011 10:44:28 PM

@Joshua Diamond We have facts. The Japanese Ministry of Science has radiation readings here: www.mext.go.jp
by Jojo 3/26/2011 10:44:31 PM

@Nancy, unfortunately for Japan, most of the emissions are likely to stay local compared to Chernobyl. Chernobyl "lost" 50% of its fuel in an explosion and fire -- all that radioactive mass was carried high into the atmosphere. At Fukushima the contamination will be more local dur to lower elevation winds, and contaminated water.
by Alaskan 3/26/2011 10:44:57 PM