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  • @Maureen Burke I thought the same about the nervous breakdown.
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 12:10:10 AM

  • @elise I'm much closer to the OC plant than Indian Point, but being in between them (and close to the PA ones as well) never made me too comfortable. I think the OC plant is due to be shutdown sometime soon? Wish I could say the same for Indian Pt...
    by NervousinNJ 3/28/2011 12:10:19 AM

  • @Jeff kit for what jeff?
    by George Gibb 3/28/2011 12:11:07 AM

  • @Jim Carver Yes, looking at ALL the areas, the steam comes out plus the debris and damage , along with inaccesible areas.....this is beyond me of a task :-(
    by VeenOui 3/28/2011 12:11:18 AM

  • @George Gibb - Gozirra, of course.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:11:40 AM

  • jma: "Tsunami Warnings and/or Advisories have been cancelled."
    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 12:12:00 AM

  • by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 12:12:17 AM

  • Time to bed now (2am here). Thanks to all of us. Will come back
    by Jo Lindien 3/28/2011 12:12:54 AM

  • @George, methings @Jeff was referring to a previous post of his, where "friend of mine who works for Wackenhut at Turkey Point. 2 days ago they sent out a Emergency Response Kit to Japan."
    by alblee 3/28/2011 12:13:29 AM

  • US ARMED FORCES deployment statistics for Japan
    www.pacom.mil
    by VeenOui 3/28/2011 12:13:42 AM

  • Looks like usgs downgraded the last quake to 6.1
    by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 12:14:22 AM

  • @Jo Lindien rest well.
    by Tenzing 3/28/2011 12:14:24 AM

  • @Ralph @Jojo Someone mentioned seeing that thew workers exposed at R2 were in the water 40 minutes. That kind of exposure would indicate higher than 1 Sv/hr, wouldn't it?
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 12:14:35 AM

  • @Radioguy, Yes I would think so. But that was water contact, not just air. I have no idea how much that effect the dose.
    by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 12:16:05 AM

  • @Ralph Unger And we have no idea how long they were actually in the exposure range, thinking the dose lower, before they began work.
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 12:17:29 AM

  • 2 - 6 Sievert was what the clinic report as the apparent total dose below the ankles.
    by Markfm 3/28/2011 12:18:04 AM

  • @Ralph Unger Think the biggest thing is getting beta burns.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:18:48 AM

  • @Markfm Right. In 40 minutes?
    by RadioGuy 3/28/2011 12:19:01 AM

  • Difference, I mean
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:19:38 AM

  • I thought 40 was mentioned.
    by Markfm 3/28/2011 12:19:43 AM

  • if the level is 2.452 mSv at the plant gates, how high could it be at the plant itself? Even outside? it think that is about 1/3rd of a mile away from the plant. atmc.jp
    by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 12:20:23 AM

  • NHK Mereeological Press conference
    by VeenOui 3/28/2011 12:20:28 AM

  • 30Sv/hour is the low estimate by ArsTechnica nerds. arstechnica.com
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:20:30 AM

  • I mean in addition to. Geez. I'm bad.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:20:46 AM

  • www.washingtonpost.com article on Japan's apparent lack of robots
    by Miles 3/28/2011 12:21:13 AM

  • Japantimes: PM helo visit delayed venting at Fukushima: search.japantimes.co.jp
    by Markfm 3/28/2011 12:21:16 AM

  • @George_Gibb, just a quick-and-dirty thought for mulling: might it be possible and/or a desired thing for the Scribble application to time stamp each published post using, say, gmt/utc instead of the browser's local time? That way, there'd be a more coherent time reference at least with regard to posting time and everybody would be seeing a common post timestamp. Thanks.
    by alblee 3/28/2011 12:21:41 AM

  • @alblee ditto here
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:22:20 AM

  • @Ralph Unger I think it is 1km
    by NHK Listener 3/28/2011 12:22:21 AM

  • @Hank Scorpio Wow. That is really high, talking 8 Sv is 100% fatality rate. en.wikipedia.org
    by Jojo 3/28/2011 12:23:06 AM

  • @jojo that was based on the retracted data though.
    by Sims 3/28/2011 12:24:32 AM

  • @Jojo Yeah, one Doctor said that when you get that high, more is better. Less suffering.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:24:35 AM

  • @Sims - No, that was based upon the new data.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:24:50 AM

  • I think it is about 2 mSv for 50% mortality without treatment. IIRC.
    by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 12:25:08 AM

  • Sieverts I mean, sorry.
    by Ralph Unger 3/28/2011 12:25:26 AM

  • @Ralph Unger Yes
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:25:57 AM

  • See, the media are all reporting it as "1,000 mSv/hour" while all the TEPCO/NISA releases refer to it as "greater than 1,000 mSv/hour." A very important distinction which TEPCO has not seen fit to remedy.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:26:02 AM

  • @Ralph Unger I thought that was to the chest area for dosage..
    by NHK Listener 3/28/2011 12:26:03 AM

  • Wouldn't it be worth closely following up the progress/condition of the hospitalized workers for valuable medical insights relative to the prevailing health risk in and around the plants? Is there a way to track this? Thanks.
    by alblee 3/28/2011 12:26:41 AM

  • @Hank Scorpio Look at the Tepco document, it says > 1000 mSv / hr. It could be 10 Sv/ hour, or 1.1.
    by Jojo 3/28/2011 12:26:43 AM

  • @Jojo - Exactly. Their equipment on-site maxed out at 1Sv.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:27:11 AM

  • @Ralph Unger Not that low. The LD50 is between 3.5 and 4.0 Sv. LD50 means the dose that will be lethal to 50% of those exposed. This assumes exposure in a short time, hours to days.
    by Jim 3/28/2011 12:27:23 AM

  • The 30Sv/hour was deduced using the contaminant information of the water.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:27:39 AM

  • @NHK Listener It's their way of presenting the values. Check out my post a lil while back.
    by Jim Carver 3/28/2011 12:28:04 AM

  • It was 40Sv/hour with the old data that included I-134.
    by Hank Scorpio 3/28/2011 12:28:07 AM

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