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  • @radioguy Not at all. We had a more severe quake a month ago here in the south of Portugal and nothing happened. I guess the epicentre must have been far away. @elainekirk No, but some experts believe the first one might have caused the second one which was stronger. They're surely related. There was no warning whatsoever.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 10:46:00 PM

  • The damage in Spain is overwhelming. Most public buildings in Lorca sustained some damage, some of them serious damage and half of the tower of the town's church just collapsed. Most of the dead were victimized by falling debris from the buildings. They're still searching houses for more potential victims.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/11/2011 10:50:01 PM

  • ok, if this is on topic, look here !

    by Edano 5/11/2011 10:50:42 PM

  • @pedro earthquake in Spain sounds horrendous.
    This is what I found earlier but I get paranoid about links disappearing so I send them to nancy first just in case we havent got them
    For the above 3 units, off-site power was lost due to malfunction of one
    out of two off-site power systems, leading to automatic startup of
    emergency diesel generators.

    Subsequently, at 3:41PM, emergency diesel generators shutdown due to
    malfunction resulting in the complete loss of alternating current for all
    three units.

    Hence, at 3:42PM, it was decided that a specific incident stipulated in
    Article 10, Clause 1 of the Act on Special Measures Concerning Nuclear
    Emergency Preparedness has occurred and a "First Level Emergency" was
    declared and in accordance with the aforementioned Act, the Minister of
    Economy, Trade, and Industry, the Governor of Fukushima Prefecture, the
    Mayor of Okuma Town, and the Mayor of Futaba Town along with other
    involved organizations were notified of the incident.
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/11/2011 10:53:34 PM

  • @elainekirk we need to confirm for sure. The two offsite power supplies would likely be the two grid power lines coming in. They are supposed to have more than one set of power lines coming in in case one goes down. There is an explanation of the one station going down in the EQ and no word about if or when the other one went down and where it was located.
    by Nancy 5/11/2011 10:55:59 PM

  • @nancy @radioguy is the only one who has a time I cant find any mention elsewhere but will keep looking
    by elainekirk 5/11/2011 10:59:52 PM

  • @elainekirk I have not seen a mention of what officially happened to that second source. One could guess it was taken out by the EQ or tsunami but don't remember it being mentioned.
    by Nancy 5/11/2011 11:00:12 PM

  • What nuclear power plant would be complete without... TOYLAND!
    Elaine found references to this a few weeks ago in some other TEPCO documents.
    translate.google.com
    by Nancy edited by elainekirk 5/11/2011 11:02:38 PM

  • What's the latest on #3 ?
    by wtm 5/11/2011 11:05:35 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus I think 'overwhelming' is perhaps a little strong here. It was a significant quake for the area, but this is a known seismically active region of Spain and inhabitants are fairly familiar with quakes, especially the big historic ones that have done huge damage locally in the past. I'll bet most of the buildings that fell down in Lorca today were already falling down in part yesterday, not having been built properly in the first place. Sad but true - the local council will claim maximum damage to their buildings to receive additional funding for reconstruction from Madrid. So, I reckon this quake wasn't exceptionally massive but from what I know of modern Spanish construction methods, we're very lucky not to see more casualties here.
    by es 5/11/2011 11:09:09 PM

  • by Maureen Burke 5/11/2011 11:14:43 PM

  • NHK story Radioactive water found in No.3 reactor pit

    Tokyo Electric Power Company says water containing radioactive material has been found flowing into a pit outside of the No.3 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

    The flow was confirmed on Wednesday afternoon at a pit linked to a utility tunnel near the reactor's water intake.

    Workers could not confirm whether the water was leaking out into the sea, but they reported seeing froth near the water intake.
    TEPCO says the concentration of radioactive Cesium in water sampled from the pit was 620,000 times higher than the safety limit set by the government. The utility also says it detected 1.5 milli-sieverts per hour of radiation on the surface of water in the pit, which indicates contaminated water may be leaking into the sea.

    TEPCO is investigating the make-up of the water and considering burying the pit to stop possible leakage.

    On April 2nd, the utility confirmed that highly radioactive wastewater was leaking into the sea from a crack in a pit outside the No.2 reactor.

    That leak was stopped 4 days later, after workers sealed the crack with a special chemical known as liquid glass. But in the meantime, nearby seawater was polluted by radiation.

    Wednesday, May 11, 2011 19:02 +0900 (JST)
    by wtm 5/11/2011 11:43:32 PM

  • by dean 5/11/2011 11:47:15 PM

  • NO THAT IS NOT FUKUSHIMA ERRUPTING
    by dean 5/11/2011 11:47:24 PM

  • @wtm oh hey ho greenpeace must be getting the results through from the international waters and tepco have come up with their second 'oh dear we didnt know very sorry' leak today
    What a coincidence
    And now everyone will be told tepco is fixing the leaks so the greenpeace findings are a blip
    and tepco get another month of ocean dumping foc
    by elainekirk 5/11/2011 11:47:56 PM

  • @elainekirk @Angie LOL! We are about to get slammed by a really nasty storm so if drop off I lost power and am hiding in the basement.
    @Nancy stay safe
    by Nancy edited by elainekirk 5/11/2011 11:56:25 PM

  • @Nancy Oh no! stay safe honey!! @Reed lol @Elaine I love the mod magic adding onto the posts!! lol
    by Angie 5/11/2011 11:58:36 PM

  • are there any live cams working
    by fitter 5/11/2011 11:59:26 PM

  • wow.. that volcano is impressive
    by dean 5/11/2011 11:59:32 PM

  • @Angie The house is creaking but the hubby, ever the geek reminded me he has his wifi cell modem from work here so we could still be online even if the power goes out. :-)
    by Nancy 5/11/2011 11:59:43 PM

  • by Nancy 5/11/2011 11:59:57 PM

  • @Nancy ty does it work or is it with jim, alittle tippy hello dean, hello all sound like you guys are having a hell of a party
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:01:34 AM

  • @dean the live cam must be down the hall, you miss all the good shows!!!
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:03:06 AM

  • Donald Trump is finally coming clean on one of the more enduring follicular mysteries of the modern age: his hair.
    don't speak that name !!

    by dean edited by elainekirk 5/12/2011 12:04:20 AM

  • @fitter it works, not sure if there is anything worth seeing.
    by Nancy 5/12/2011 12:04:26 AM

  • yeh I do... I was training on my bicycle .. what happened... @ fitter
    by dean 5/12/2011 12:04:51 AM

  • @Nancy i just have a white screen, eairler it was looking at clouds
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:05:10 AM

  • Yea I got white screen too. Not sure if they are socked in. Said partly cloudy today
    by Nancy 5/12/2011 12:06:10 AM

  • @dean the water show it was this afternoon, come to think of it nancy when i came to check the computor it had the same white srcreen
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:06:11 AM

  • water show? huh
    by dean 5/12/2011 12:06:43 AM

  • @fitter The white clouds/fog can last for hours!!!
    by Angie 5/12/2011 12:07:44 AM

  • @dean there are some screen shots about ten pages back, not as good as saturday, but still quite impressive
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:07:48 AM

  • Still like to find out what happened this morning, it didn't look normal !!
    by wtm 5/12/2011 12:08:32 AM

  • @Angie Does anyone wonder if that is a teppie mirage? Rather than fading to black, fade to white?
    by pj 5/12/2011 12:08:36 AM

  • I will check those when I get back.. I'm off for ice cream cone... be back later
    by dean 5/12/2011 12:09:01 AM

  • @pj earliler it looked like it was pointed at the cloulds, maybe the earthquake knocked it alittle
    by fitter 5/12/2011 12:09:41 AM

  • @fitter lol @tepco mirage! hmmm I tried the panda video and it didnt work.........I tried calming him......not working either......so now I thnk we just let him go and he will get tired soon lol
    by Angie 5/12/2011 12:10:25 AM

  • @fitter Sorry, like what was pointed? Oh, you mean the camera?!
    by pj 5/12/2011 12:10:30 AM

  • Hmm TBS is streaming white too www.youtube.com
    by Nancy 5/12/2011 12:10:38 AM

  • hmm Teppycam is showing a clear picture pointscope01.jp

    by Nancy via Pointscope01.jp 5/12/2011 12:12:02 AM

  • Did it go out for a while after the last smoke show?
    by Nancy 5/12/2011 12:12:29 AM

  • @Nancy a question for you about a feature in that image - at the base of the right-hand tower there are what look like two parallel horizontal lines. What is that?
    by pj 5/12/2011 12:13:59 AM

  • @pj, we were watching the TBS cam, and they were injecting water into the #4 SFP, and #3 reactor, getting moderate steam out. Then the cam shook, went out for a few seconds and when it came back on, there was a massive vertical and horizontal cloud of smoke/steam that came up from #3, it then covered the whole area for a while. After it subsided, they was a massive smoke coming out the side of #3 towards the bottom of the building, not the top as before. The smoke then filled in all the lower areas around the plant. When Teppy cam finally came up , it showed a plume of vertical smoke in the middle of the plant (above #3), haven't been able to find out anything more since.
    by wtm 5/12/2011 12:15:10 AM

  • @pj, there was a 5.5 quake that hit at that time just off the coast of the plant.
    by wtm 5/12/2011 12:15:54 AM

  • @pj they are not structures. Could be smoke or steam?
    by Nancy 5/12/2011 12:17:19 AM

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