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@Darren Have you looked at thee website for SimplyInfo.org? It was created by members here. See : houseoffoust.com

Stabilise the blob and than entomb. Maybe encasing not fully needed in best case scenario.

@Reed yes, I've seen that page, but have failed to understand all the details - only the trends. Wish I knew more about what the raw data meant.

@Darren I only partially get the concept of this to be honest. Thats why I wish the government was honest. However there will be a massive uninhabitable zone at a minimum.

"The utility says it identified 5 concrete tunnels and 39 pits around the plant as possible points from which radioactive water could flow out to the sea." www3.nhk.or.jp

@Darren I am trying to work out the same thing you are.

@Darren Its quite extreme but it makes sense at least. Like a human can understand the article!.

@reed thanks for clarifying that. Lets hope there is no 5th way!.

I look uncomfortable in the first 2!.

@AustralianCannonball @Reed ok guys, well, I've bookmarked this page & will be back. You're doomed! In the meantime, thanks for the chat. Signing off for the night in the hopes we're not all glowing by tomorrow ;-) thanks again...

@Darren Its 1.50pm here in Australia but goodnight...

So we are up to 7 ways in a nightmare scenario!

@all Maybe someone can list on the group website all the ways leaks can occur into the ocean?. I'm not even sure who controls this place!.

@AustralianCannonball When you see @Nancy or @radioguy, make sure to suggest that as a listing on the site. Good idea. I'm off for a bit...enjoy your day Cannonball and TY

Tokyo Electric Says Contaminated Water at Fukushima Rises www.bloomberg.com

www.global-adventures.us Radiation: Expedition samples Pacific Ocean - Operating with the permission of the Japanese government, the ship will follow a track line from east to west and operate at 34 sampling stations, criss-crossing the Kuroshio Current, a strong, western boundary current similar to the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic, that could rapidly carry the radioactivity into the interior of the ocean. Deploying water sampling rosettes, the team will collect and analyze the samples for many radio nuclides – among them isotopes of cesium, iodine, ruthenium promethium, strontium, plutonium, radium, and uranium – to learn how much contamination was released into the ocean, its potential impact on marine life and human health, and provide input to models for better understanding of contamination pathways and dispersion.

TEPCO needs to store 100,000 tons of tainted water
Tokyo Electric Power Company says more than 100,000 tons of highly radioactive water has been leaked from the damaged reactors of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
The operator warns that the water may overflow later this month during the rainy season and says it is struggling to find a place to store the water after filtering.

The basements of the first 4 reactor buildings are full of water that was injected to cool down the damaged reactors.

The situation is hampering efforts to achieve the ultimate goal of stabilizing the reactors.

TEPCO says 16,200 tons of water has been leaked outside Number One, 24,600 tons at Number 2, 28,100 tons at Number 3 and 22,900 tons at Number 4. It says another 13,300 tons of water has already been moved to a storage facility.

It says the 105,100 tons of water contains an estimated 720,000 terabecquerels of radioactive substances. Tera stands for one trillion.

On June 15th, TEPCO plans to start using equipment that can filter 1,200 tons of toxic water a day. In mid-August, it will also install an underground storage tank that can hold 100,000 tons of highly radioactive water.

TEPCO fears that the toxic water could overflow if the filter fails to work. It plans to secure more storage facilities.

Friday, June 03, 2011 14:05 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp

oops, always forget I can't hit 'enter'. So basically, what I discovered is that Gunderson does in fact have a respectable education, unlike what is state on the earlier linked site, he not only has a BS in Nuclear Engineering, he also has a Master's degree in NE. He was in fact a licensed Nuclear Operator. The guy makes much of him teaching Science and Math and implies it somehow indicates he's lacking in professionalism. He was working there because he'd been fired as a whistleblower by Nuclear Energy Systems and couldn't get a job in the industry any more. As was found to be true for him and many other whistleblowers at nuclear plants and industries. I think we should all be conscious that not all we read that encourages skepticism is always well motivated. I will post several links for resources. Sorry disorganized:-)

An old but still relevant article on whistleblowers in the nuclear industry in the UShttp://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/12/nyregion/paying-the-price-for-blowing-the-whistle.html?src=pm A friendly but informative article from Vermont: vermontdailybriefing.com I can also provide links to his resume and CV if anyone interested. Sorry to be long but I actually now feel this guy is doing the best he can in a good way and is the subject of a non-conspiratorial bunch of hatchet jobs by people who are using improper tactics to support their perfectly legitimately held views. Just my opinion of course.

The Fukushima disaster and Japan Disincorporated
search.japantimes.co.jp
"Tokyo Electric Power Co. (the firm holding the monopoly for electricity production and supply in the Kanto and neighboring areas) was, like quite a few other firms and industry groups in Japan, proud to think of itself and its industry as a mura (village) — self-contained, self-sufficient and able to fight off any intrusion by outsiders.

The result was the dangerous complacency that I saw so alarmingly in my several years on several nuclear industry committees, and that Prime Minister Naoto Kan correctly described as the "myth of nuclear safety."

The other cultural flaw is Japan's ingrained aversion to contingency planning — thinking about the worst that can happen and planning to avoid it."