Japan Earthquake

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Try-Anything Strategy in Nuclear Crisis Draws Criticism, and Sympathy.... THIS SEEMS TO PREVAIL AT TIMES
by dean 7/6/2011 2:33:28 PM

News roundup posted on www.simplyinfo.org
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:34:30 PM

I need to wake up too and get my coffee
by dean 7/6/2011 2:35:14 PM

Japan has a plethora of worker rights... "Slowly and reluctantly, Japan’s salarymen are learning to stand up for their rights, and in the process rewriting the social contract that had once bound workers to companies with near feudal bonds of loyalty." www.nytimes.com Right to organize and bargain collectivelyThe Constitution provides unions with the right to organize, bargain, and act collectively. These rights were exercised freely, and collective bargaining was practiced widely. The Constitution provides for the right to strike, and workers exercised this right in practice. There are no export processing zones. shante smith. en.wikipedia.org We in the US have things like the Southern Poverty Law Center that will assist workers free of charge. www.splcenter.org
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 2:35:40 PM

@dean LOL. Scribbling from the shower can be bad for electronics.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:35:42 PM

@ lilly.. is that your radiation respirator?
by dean 7/6/2011 2:35:46 PM

@dean ooh. Now there is an art-statement functional equipment idea. Kabuki mask respirators.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:36:41 PM

@lillymunster have you seen Jakes latest tweet YUK
jakeadelstein Jake Adelstein
I was surprised to find that red wine and eel (鰻）go very well together. Time to call it a day. I'm blissfully sleepy. お休み
by Elaine Kirk 7/6/2011 2:40:31 PM

I FOUND MY NEW AVATAR
by dean 7/6/2011 2:41:15 PM

@dean I'm looking for some better info on the kids thyroid exposure. When they say "0.3 micro sievert per hour, do you think they already bactracked to the date of exposure? They aren't citing an actual exposure to the child from a given ingestion, so the meaning is completely meaningless to me.
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 2:42:48 PM

@dean AtomMan, is here to save the day!!
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 2:44:13 PM

@RBeaner, I hope they are getting that from the ministry of health and are using the initial number prior to them raising the doses
by dean 7/6/2011 2:45:12 PM

As to the worker issue you all debated so passionately earlier. I envision a temporary nuke village being set up at some "safe" distance from the plant. I am sure every worker is issued an id. This should be a lifetime id that is safely stored in a database like the SS numbers in the US. Anyone who owns one of these id numbers should be entitled to comprehensive medical care (like the VA system).
The problem I see arising from the use of a foreign work force is that those guys may be untraceable in the future. If the anyone of them gets seriously contaminated, they will encounter great difficulty of returning to their home countries. They could not even board a plane!
by Peter Melzer 7/6/2011 2:45:33 PM

Attack of the jellyfish: Sea creatures shut down ANOTHER power station amid claims population surge is due to climate change

Another power station was shut down by jellyfish today amid claims that climate change is causing a population surge among the species.
A huge swarm clogged up the Orot Rabin plant in Hadera, Israel, a day after the Torness nuclear facility in Scotland was closed in a similar incident.
Hadera ran into trouble when jellyfish blocked its seawater supply, which it uses for cooling purposes, forcing officials to use diggers to remove them. www.dailymail.co.uk
by Majj 7/6/2011 2:45:38 PM

@Elaine Kirk eel boiled inside out in wine was either a Roman or Medieval Europe recipe. Eel was a quite common food stuff before the industrial revolution. I see eel and octopus on the menu in Japanese restaurants and just can not bring myself to eat it even though I have had calamari before.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:47:13 PM

@dean It's not a matter of limits, that I am talking about. They announced the thyroid exposure in microsieverts per hour, not total effective dose or total thyroid dose. I only saw one reference to it...from Edano maybe?
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 2:48:25 PM

@Majj I wish they would stop using climate change the eejits!! the planet is constantly evolving that is why we are here and the dinosaurs are gone jellyfish swarms have been increasing year on year since they first evolved they don't have enemies (except tepco. BP, etc) so there is no population control. When will these eejits stop acting like wet toilet paper and get real?
by Elaine Kirk 7/6/2011 2:49:51 PM

@Peter Melzer Had not thought about that, country your in later could add another layer of complexity. I realize that mid-crisis post work medical care is probably not a big priority. I hope as things move into a more stable situation this does happen, as you mentioned, a VA type system for these workers.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:50:41 PM

@dean , I found the rad signs you posted yesterday. The new brown one was news to me. Alas, I never worked in a place where one had to count on having to run one day.
by Peter Melzer 7/6/2011 2:51:16 PM

Fukushima nuclear crisis an exhibition of panic by the elite
mdn.mainichi.jp
by Panserbjorne9 7/6/2011 2:51:25 PM

Fukushima-1: secrets revealed english.ruvr.ru
by Panserbjorne9 7/6/2011 2:53:08 PM

BTW, since the situation of workers came up. They have made some major improvements at the base camp over at Daini. They have bunk beds, some slightly better food, more medical staff and were working on a shower system. Some of the contract workers are staying in hotels outside the zone that would otherwise be empty since the tourists are staying away. So some of this is "fog of war" that can be expected to be hard to address. Other more intentional incidents of knowingly disregarding safety are more than fog of war issues. What seemed to change things was the media reporting on how crappy work conditions were. That caused the labor ministry to send people in. The combination forced TEPCO to address those issues.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 2:54:28 PM

@Peter Melzer I found the fact that that sign was copyrighted was very disturbing, It's a good warning sign, but what kind of scumbag would copyrighta warning sign. en.wikipedia.org Look at the fine print below the sign, and this has IAEA backing?
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 2:55:45 PM

@lillymunster, every passenger boarding an international flight ( and domestic in the US at that) walks through radiation detectors. Imagine you turn up with a load of iodine-131 in your thyroid! It means the end of your trip!
by Peter Melzer 7/6/2011 2:56:06 PM

@Elaine Kirk there are no GET REAL. There are only "MAKE MONEY". I like the side that the Jelly fishes are call attention for the weak nuclear power plants. In the last years of my sail trips , the Jelly fish have become a problem for all in the sea.
by Majj 7/6/2011 2:56:34 PM

@lillymunster yes I dont see complaints these days about quarters or food but they do get overheated at work that is still a problem
by Elaine Kirk 7/6/2011 2:56:45 PM

@Elaine Kirk @lillymunster : have you seen bo's translation ?
by Edano 7/6/2011 2:57:49 PM

@RBeaner , you know why that is? I do not think that just about everyone is supposed to use or order such labels or tape. I needed to provide our rad lab license number to purchase labels, yellow tape etc.
by Peter Melzer 7/6/2011 2:58:39 PM

Poisoned Recovery: Kids radiation positive in Fukushima zone youtu.be
by Majj 7/6/2011 3:00:23 PM

@Peter Melzer It's one thing to have some control on access to purchase ( we don't want rad tape everywhere) , It's another thing entirely to make a profit on the picture provided on the warning label. Read the link to Wiki.
by RBeaner 7/6/2011 3:01:59 PM

@ Peter, I used to tell my workers that in a nuclear accident.. watch me... if I run. you get your fingers in my belt loop and hold on..
by dean 7/6/2011 3:03:34 PM

I never had to run.. but I've been the emergency director for several incidents... and from first hand experience it's tuff
by dean 7/6/2011 3:04:08 PM

??????? BLAZE IN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN TOKAI, JAPAN Tokyo - Almost four months after the Fukushima disaster, a fire started in the nuclear waste disposal plant near reactor No. 2 in Tokai, in the East of Japan. Official sources reported that the blaze is now under control and that no radiocative material leak occurred. The power plant is run by the Japan Atomic Power and is situated in the Ibaraki province, North of Tokyo. . www.agi.it
by Majj 7/6/2011 3:04:28 PM

Finished the article on the 171 past due inspections at TEPCO's nuclear plants wp.me
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 3:06:58 PM

another fairy tale ?

Microbes used to remove cesium in water and soil

Japanese researchers have found that microbes could help remove cesium from water and soil, raising hopes for their use in decontamination efforts around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

A team led by Professor Ken Sasaki of Hiroshima Kokusai Gakuin University has for 10 years been studying ways to remove metals using microbes called phototrophic bacteria.

Such removal is possible because negative ions on the microbes attract positively charged metals.

The team recently experimented with 2.5 grams of cesium mixed in water, and about 90 grams of microbes.

The cesium dropped to one-twelfth its original density in 24 hours, and was gone by the third day. The same effect was confirmed in soil.

The team says the microbes could very likely also remove radioactive cesium from around the plant, and plans to test soil and water in Fukushima Prefecture to put the method into practical use.

Wednesday, July 06, 2011 16:28 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano edited by Edano 7/6/2011 3:07:15 PM

I don't find nothing inTokai in all my searches......
by Majj 7/6/2011 3:07:46 PM

@RBeaner, I am not arguing with you.
by Peter Melzer 7/6/2011 3:07:59 PM

Wastewater filters not working to capacity

The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says it will look into why the filters in its cooling system to recycle radioactive wastewater are working at a rate far below the initial estimate.

Tokyo Electric Power Company says about 14,670 tons of wastewater had been decontaminated as of 10:00 AM on Wednesday.

The filters were processing 43 tons of wastewater per hour, which is 14 percent below the initial estimate of 50 tons per hour.

This has resulted in the filters working at just 76 percent capacity over the week through Tuesday. That is 4 percentage points below the initial target.

Recycling of wastewater is key to cooling the reactors.

But if the process takes too much time, the utility's schedule for bringing the nuclear crisis under control could be delayed.

Wednesday, July 06, 2011 19:15 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 7/6/2011 3:09:15 PM

@RBeaner I saw that. Copyrighting a universal warning sign is like trying to get a patent on a common gene.
by lillymunster 7/6/2011 3:09:57 PM

@Edano that's been around for a little while, but i think now we're going to see it really put into action. www.nsf.gov
by Panserbjorne9 7/6/2011 3:10:01 PM

@Panserbjorne9 : this is not "eating". they just use the radiation to catalyze their dinner:

How to Eat Radiation
The newly discovered microbes were found nearly two miles deep in ancient water seeping through a fracture in a 2.7 million-year-old rock formation. The rock contains radioactive uranium, thorium and potassium, as well as an iron-sulfur compound called pyrite, or fool’s gold, among other constituents.

A cascade of reactions supplies the microbes with their remarkable if meager diet. First, radioactivity cracks water molecules (H2O) into their components: hydrogen (H2) and oxygen (O).

The detached oxygen atoms combine with adjacent water molecules to make hydrogen peroxide (H2O2). The peroxide then reacts with an iron-sulfur compound called pyrite (FeS2), producing sulfate ions (SO42-) that the microbes can “eat.” Each sulfate ion is lacking two electrons, which are supplied—inside the organisms—by the conveniently available leftover hydrogen gas (H2). The microbes use that reaction to store energy.
www.nsf.gov

this is very misleading ! one should take care when reading articles like this. i do not believe that there are microbes that can really split cesium, a metal !!! and the radioactivity does not vanish mysteriously.
by Edano edited by Edano 7/6/2011 3:17:15 PM

quake anybody know more?
by Elaine Kirk 7/6/2011 3:17:51 PM

@Elaine Kirk 00:19 JST 07 Jul 2011 00:15 JST 07 Jul 2011 Ibaraki-ken Oki M5.8 www.jma.go.jp
by Edano 7/6/2011 3:24:09 PM

www.jma.go.jp
Earthquake Information (Earthquake Information)
Issued at 00:19 JST 07 Jul 2011

Occurred at (JST) Latitude
(degree) Longitude
(degree) Depth Magnitude Region Name
00:15 JST 07 Jul 2011 36.4N 141.8E very shallow 5.8 Ibaraki-ken Oki

This earthquake poses no tsunami risk.
by Edano via Jma.go.jp 7/6/2011 3:25:34 PM

QuakeAlert
DATE : 07/06/2011 11:15:01
TIME : 16 minutes ago
REG. : near the east coast of Honshu, Japan
MAG. : 5.6
DEP. : 18.2 km
ID : 120933
quakes.globalincidentmap.com
by Edano 7/6/2011 3:31:26 PM