Japan Earthquake

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@lillymunster , perhaps you can install small apps with RSS feeds on simplyinfo to aggregate news. That would make life easier for you.
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 2:44:40 PM

@Diane_NJ It is really hard to watch someone struggle like that, easy to relate to if you have
kids.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:44:41 PM

@RadioGuy thanks, are they finding verifiable statistics now?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:45:15 PM

@bobby1 Have we seen a similar increase n Seattle?
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:45:35 PM

@lillymunster The BC coroner flagged it in a a report:
More sudden infant deaths have occurred so far this year in B.C. than in all 2010 and Vancouver Island has had a disproportionately high number.

The B.C. Coroners Service issued an advisory Tuesday urging parents to educate themselves on how to prevent sudden infant death syndrome, once known commonly as crib death.
www.timescolonist.com
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:47:12 PM

@Peter Melzer I had thought about doing so but it is hard to pick out what stories are worthwhile and what ones are not. Many times a news source will only have one good story in the national news. So the aggregator would put them all in or if you use a keyword type you could get all sorts of results. If we can find a reliable way to auto sort that works I would sure set it up. I manually read through all these each morning anyways so the only extra work is cutting and pasting the links into a post.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:47:31 PM

@RadioGuy Seattle had the rainwater story. All the box filter data for Seattle should be on EPA Radnet. Could this end up being a hot spot?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:48:41 PM

VAncouver island has a 2000 meter mountain range down it, which protects the BC mainland from the wind and makes all storms swirl in over Vancouver, then up the straight between the mainland and the island, so Vancouver Island is taking the hit from Fuku. Damn. I have friends with children up there.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:49:55 PM

@RadioGuy Seattle has a statistically significant increase in deaths. Keep in mind that it is very early still.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 2:51:32 PM

CNN is reporting. Is the beginning off REAL Fukushima news on the main media. Radioactive meat circulating on Japanese market. - A Japanese health official downplayed the dangers Tuesday after cesium contaminated meat from six Fukushima cows was delivered to Japanese markets and probably ingested.
Goshi Hosono, state minister in charge of consumer affairs and food-safety, said he hoped to head off any overreactions.
"If we were to eat the meat everyday, then it would probably be dangerous," Hosono said at a news conference Tuesday. "But if it is consumed only in small portions, I don't think it would have any long-lasting effects on the human body."
The meat, delivered late last month, has made its way to consumers and most likely has been ingested, the Tokyo Metropolitan Government said Monday evening. This was preceded by another recent discovery of radiation in the meat of 11 cows delivered to Tokyo from the same farm.
The discovery was made when Tokyo's office of health and welfare investigated six deliveries made at the end of June from a Fukushima farm. So far, radiation has been confirmed from three out of the six cows. In one case, radiation reached 3400 Becquerels, which is about seven times the limit set by the government. edition.cnn.com
by Majj 7/12/2011 2:52:50 PM

In fact, this is easy wind-mapping. Because of the island, there's the equivalent of a wind gap that cones in over the San Juan's, then hits Vancouver, then travels north up the strait, so the island would be the highest (particularly Vicrotia, at the southern end of the island, Port Alberni in the middle, and Port Hardy and Port McNeil at the top of the island, then there should be progressively effective wind shadows reaching around the ends of the island from both directions.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:56:28 PM

The discussion of internal vs. external radiation doses and that the survey of residents is far too late in happening. This is on NHK. It seems like things are now evolving really fast with people figuring out about exposure, safe limits and where the govt. is screwing up or has lied to people. www.nhk.or.jp
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:56:51 PM

@RadioGuy How does that relate to Seattle? Do they share wind currents or separate?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 2:57:20 PM

@Majj Yes. I think it's the beginning of the total collapse of their attempt to hide the Fukushima disaster. You can't hide something that never goes away. It's just impossible.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:58:06 PM

@lillymunster Seattle is 60 miles from Vancouver as the seagull flies, separated from Victoria only by the Strait. It should be nearly identical to Victoria.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:59:10 PM

Perhaps falling in somewhere just between Victoria and Vancouver.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 2:59:48 PM

I had an idea the other day. How much would it cost and where is a lab that could test soil, water or foods for contamination? NGO's in Japan were sending things to France for testing as were some farmers. Is there somewhere US we could? Could we find a university like Berkeley to do so? It would be interesting to get samples from around the US or other places thought to get fallout and develop a citizen survey since the EPA is failing at their job.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:04:40 PM

Though Seattle gets a funnel effect coming down Puget Sound, but it also gets some protection from the mountains on the Olympic Peninsula, so when wind swirl matters, it's a tossup. I wonder about Anchorage.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 3:06:38 PM

@lillymunster There are private labs that do testing, but remember the story from Canada where even private labs were refusing to do it.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:06:46 PM

@Bobby1 was that a case of govt. pressuring the private lab?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:07:20 PM

@Bobby1 Testing businesses refusing to take your money to do testing... what's that all about?
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 3:07:32 PM

@RadioGuy @lillymunster Hard to see it any other way.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:07:49 PM

I remember seeing some well water testing companies that test for some radiation.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:08:23 PM

Somebody in the Eureka area had testing done at a lab, it was in the UC Berkeley forum.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:09:38 PM

Private wells are routinely testing for radiation but it seems to focus on alpha rads. Are some of the ones we should be looking for other types? www.epa.gov
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:11:03 PM

@lillymunster , the labs that test for Radon in the kits that hardware stores sell perhaps.
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 3:13:08 PM

These guys do radiation testing and seem to do water-soil-food www.emsl.com www.emsl.com
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:14:03 PM

@Peter Melzer would those radon kits pick up other things?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:14:22 PM

Every grower should test for iodine, cesium, tellurium, strontium and plutonium.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:16:14 PM

@Bobby1 if we could get those tested for reasonably enough we could get a variety of people to volunteer to send in samples? This could be interesting. I wonder if Berkeley would be willing to do citizen gathered samples to broaden their testing?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:18:34 PM

@Bobby1 I've been telling every one whose ear I can get that same thing... get the gear to test for yourselves. "Since you're in business selling this stuff, call it occupational self preservation."
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 3:18:43 PM

Also the results for soil testing should be reported in becquerels per square meter, which would enable comparisons to Chernobyl, where most results are reported in this measure.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:19:13 PM

@lillymunster , read this: www.blackcatsystems.com
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 3:19:27 PM

@lillymunster , the company that tests the kits for our area is:
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 3:20:23 PM

@lillymunster I wouldn't recommend Berkeley, they have an axe to grind. Remember the Univ of California runs Los Alamos.
by Bobby1 7/12/2011 3:21:06 PM

hit return: Alpha Energy Laboratories, 2501 Mayes Rd., Suite 100, Carrollton TX 75006-1378
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 3:21:46 PM

I am going to try the kit and see!
by Peter Melzer 7/12/2011 3:22:21 PM

@Bobby1 LOL. Then maybe one of these private labs would be a better venue.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:24:34 PM

@Peter Melzer the radon kit or the simple geiger device?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:25:33 PM

@Bobby1 Yes, they're also remarkably unapproachable by the press apparently. They did a few mostly industry-standard "no worse than a plane flight" interviews, then clammed up. I finally gave up calling.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 3:26:36 PM

@Peter Melzer do you know anything about the DIY geiger counters that hook up to an iphone?
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:26:49 PM

@RadioGuy that is too bad, they had the only food testing info. something like safecast but for food could be really interesting...
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:27:47 PM

@lillymunster Yes, but it always bugged me that even those undrinkable milk samples after the Fuku explosions got the bogus "comparison to flights" disclaimer.
by RadioGuy 7/12/2011 3:29:29 PM

Reverse osmosis systems used to combat radiation in well water in Montana brendonbosworth.wordpress.com
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:29:33 PM

@RadioGuy I just ignore those "safe like flying" disclaimers and look at just the numbers vs. those max numbers we collected early on.
by lillymunster 7/12/2011 3:30:18 PM