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TEPCO starts cooling No. 2 reactor in more efficient way

TOKYO, Sept. 14, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 9/14/2011 4:34:48 PM

@Edano I saw that and wondered if true wouldn't the boiling water in other fuel pools and possibly in the RPV also be producing lots of hydrogen by the water?
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 4:40:23 PM

I did this write up on thorium reactors. It is in the peer review section if anyone wants to take a look and let me know if you find any technical issues on it houseoffoust.com
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 4:42:15 PM

@lillymunster should I go look for more docs see if we can catch the iaea one
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 5:02:07 PM

@elainekirk which iaea one? The declaration of FUKU or their new reccomendations? Something else?
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 5:12:40 PM

@lillymunster the one we found summary of
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 5:30:59 PM

@lillymunster could you add a backlink to the homepage (or other page) on the reactor graph page ? www.houseoffoust.com
by Edano 9/14/2011 5:34:02 PM

@Edano sure. Will do.
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 5:47:54 PM

@Elaine - yes
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 5:48:01 PM

Interesting letter I found on my travels
....In addition, to the extent practical, Member States and the Agency should utilize existing instruments and programs to undertake the actions. In this regard, we strongly encourage Member States to join and effectively implement the Conventions noted in the Action Plan. Likewise, we urge Member States to join the Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage as a step towards a global nuclear liability regime. These are steps that can, and should, be taken by any Member State with, or considering, a nuclear power program...... vienna.usmission.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 5:53:59 PM

@elainekirk that sure would have been helpful before Fuku blew up. TEPCO is determined to never compensate anyone. They have so rigged the process it will be a gamble to ever get compensation
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 6:04:44 PM

Why does this doc make me feel sick? oh I know it is because they have just changed the wording and intend to carry on regardless
Current Status of Discussion
on Roadmap of Fusion Energy
Research and and Development in Japan
advprojects.pppl.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:06:02 PM

@lillymunster I think it is he clearest sign yet that it has been acknowledged that the Japanese will not recieve adequate, if any, compensation. Maybe Rockhopper and OB_Li should see it
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:07:26 PM

Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant: Lessons Learned from Fukushima
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Time: 12:00pm/4:45pm
Location: 321-AUD/Beckman Auditorium
Speaker: Jearl Strickland and John Lindsey
technology.jpl.nasa.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:10:15 PM

@elainekirk after watching how TEPCO and US nuclear companies act when dealing with the public or regulation I think they will try to run forward like nothing is wrong until someone stops them. Saw it with N Anna and Ft. Calhoun and the NRC. THey act delusional like they are going to operate reactors with no safety reviews. Both made silly statements about how fast they were going to get back to business. They couldn't possibly believe they were going to get away with it.
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 6:10:35 PM

POLICY ISSUE

(NOTATION VOTE)
September 9, 2011 SECY-11-0124
FOR: The Commissioners
FROM: R. W. Borchardt
Executive Director for Operations
SUBJECT: RECOMMENDED ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN WITHOUT DELAY FROM
THE NEAR-TERM TASK FORCE REPORT
PURPOSE:
The purpose of this paper is to provide, for Commission consideration, the recommendations of
the U. S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff, regarding those Near-Term Task Force
(NTTF) recommendations that can and, in the staff’s judgment, should be initiated, in part or in
whole, without delay.
www.nrc.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:17:52 PM

@lillymunster I think they do believe they will get away with it because for decades it has taken nothing more than a dinner and bottle of wine to ensure that
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:19:28 PM

Senate Report 112-075 - ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATIONS BILL, 2012
BIOLOGICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH
Within the funds provided, $20,000,000 shall be used for radiobiology to help determine health risks from exposures to low levels of ionizing radiation to properly protect radiation workers and the general public. The Fukushima Daiichi disaster in Japan is an opportunity to learn about the impacts of the disaster on human health and apply lessons learned to make more informed decisions on protection if a similar accident occurs in the future, including dose trip points for evacuation and shelter-in-place orders.
thomas.loc.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:29:20 PM

this is the archived webcast from the

FULL COMMITTEE MEMBER MEETING: to provide an update on the recent events at the Tokyo Electric Power Company’s Fukushima Daiichi reactor complex due to the earthquake and tsunami that occurred on March 11, 2011 (Hearing Room SD-366). OVERFLOW ROOM, SD-562.
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
energy.senate.gov
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 6:43:35 PM

out for a bit
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 7:11:38 PM

Most cesium in forests found 'on fallen leaves' www.yomiuri.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 7:50:41 PM

Edano's comeback ruffles feathers in industry ministry, power industry www.asahi.com
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 7:51:18 PM

METI aims to wean nation off nuclear power: Edano
Renewable energy to replace atomic plants, ensure Japan's future search.japantimes.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 7:58:36 PM

Edano as industry minister is even better than Kan as PM. he can reach much more.
by Edano 9/14/2011 8:45:20 PM

@Edano he certainly kan
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 9:08:42 PM

yes he kan
by Edano 9/14/2011 9:11:54 PM

@Edano news has dried up after the flurry
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 9:31:40 PM

back!
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 9:34:02 PM

The NRC just announced they are sending an inspector out to do a heat exchanger inspection in November Ft. Calhoun at. Guessing that will force the shutdown longer.
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 9:36:26 PM

@lillymunster I thought they were saying a team was going in?
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 9:40:51 PM

@elainekirk this is on top of that. The NRC are pretty busy there
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:11:05 PM

It makes me wonder what they are not saying publicly
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:11:26 PM

@lillymunster O looked at uk fuku and they seem to be concentrating on preventing/containing fires at nuke sites reactors and processing .. worth bearing in mind little pieces of the jigsaw
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 10:15:56 PM

TEPCO spraying water directly into No.2 reactor

The operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has begun injecting water directly onto the spot in the No. 2 reactor where the fuel is believed to be located after melting down in the pressure vessel.

Tokyo Electric Power Company has been spraying water continuously into the reactors since the March accident to cool them down.

As of 11AM on Wednesday, the bottom of the No.2 reactor was 114.4 degrees Celsius, compared to 84.9 degrees at the No.1 reactor and 101.3 at the No. 3 reactor.

TEPCO thinks the temperature at the No.2 reactor remains higher because the injected water is not cooling the place where the melted-down fuel is located.

On Wednesday, the utility began using pipes located above where the fuel is believed to be, along with an existing pipe, to diversify the coolant passages as the exact spot where the fuel is, remains unknown.

TEPCO says the temperature at the No. 3 reactor has dropped since the same method was introduced early this month.

The firm hopes to achieve a cold shutdown with the temperatures of all the reactors being kept stable and below 100 degrees by January.

It will adjust the amount of water being sprayed and monitor the change of reactor temperatures to find out the most effective way to cool them down.

Thursday, September 15, 2011 06:12 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/14/2011 10:18:44 PM

they forgot to say that #3 is boiling off again, all temps over 95°, and all but one over 100°.
by Edano 9/14/2011 10:21:13 PM

So they don't know where the fuel is but they won't tell us where they are guessing it is..
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:27:20 PM

@lillymunster @Edano this is stupid I think tepco are just playing for time whilst they 'relocate' their assets, something tells me that the pack of cards is going to tumble before the October start of compensation payments
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 10:47:14 PM

why are there two cranes over #4?
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 10:50:38 PM

@elainekirk sexual reproduction ?
by Edano 9/14/2011 10:52:01 PM

@Edano :-)
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:53:31 PM

ooh pretty clouds on TBS cam
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:54:12 PM

mummy daddy and baby crane
by Edano 9/14/2011 10:54:28 PM

I think the cranes are between 3 and 4. No clue what they are doing.
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 10:57:05 PM

@Edano oo don't after veenies joke I am gonna have no pelvic floor left
by elainekirk 9/14/2011 10:58:11 PM

Now I am curious. Adelstein mentioned yesterday about prosecutors investigating TEPCO for negligence charges. Now I see someone tweet in Japanese mentioning it but the link didn't work.
by lillymunster 9/14/2011 11:15:16 PM