Japan Earthquake

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@Elaine - saved all the docs and pics. What do you think TEPCO is up to with all of this? The radiation release maps. Do you think they are models or actual? It seemed like there were multiples showing different directions?
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:04:51 PM

@lillymunster I dont know I cannot find that pdf referenced anywhere and yet it was in the public docs file for today. There is another news release about the emergency operation manual recording demands from gov and tepco effectively ignoring them www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:11:06 PM

@elainekirk I saved a copy in case it was a slip up and they might pull it down. IT would be helpful if we could get Rockhopper or Ob Li to take a peek at it and just see if it says something about it being actual or modeling etc. If there is anything else in the text that might give a hint at the intention. They don't need to translate the whole big mess on each page, just see if they can glean the intent of the maps.
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:13:19 PM

Either way those maps to me look like TEPCO knew releases were or could be happening right from the quake on.
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:13:56 PM

I think there may have been an elaborate cover up but that is only guessing. There was a 7.2 quake a couple of days prior to the 9 one www.smh.com.au I dunno did that cause damage? I did wonder about rockhopper or maybe pull skf in?
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:14:02 PM

@elainekirk Wow. I don't think I ever heard of that before. No mention among workers interviewed so far about known damage before the quake but that was strong enough it could have done something that just wasn't obvious yet to weaken structures.
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:15:58 PM

I added that link to the library so we don't lose it. BTW, did you see the overnight link about the 10,000 people nuke plant siege in India?
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:19:07 PM

@lillymunster no I missed that
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:27:30 PM

More stronium found in Yokohama ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:27:56 PM

MV found it. Rather awesome response. A couple of people died doing hunger strikes. They have shut down the construction houseoffoust.com
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:29:01 PM

@lillymunster I am going to see what I can find pre 3/11
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:31:30 PM

Report shows what would happen if unit 4 lost the ability to cool the fuel pool ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:31:47 PM

@elainekirk in relation to the 3.9 quake? Not a bad idea. You would think it would trigger a walkdown at least?
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:32:30 PM

it is 7.3mag in goj doc iisee.kenken.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:34:34 PM

these are the February quakes the march the 9th isnt on there of course they must have known it was coming they had enough warning and any of these in the area could have impacted on fuku www.jishin.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:40:47 PM

@elainekirk The report says there was no remarkable activity. :-)
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 2:42:28 PM

this is March www.jishin.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:48:41 PM

The following events for the period from March 2010 to the end of February 2011 have been listed as "Major Seismic Activity" in monthly "Evaluation of Seismic Activity"

– Off-shore of Fukushima Prefecture M6.7 on March 14, 2010
(Depth of approximately 40km)

– Off-shore of Fukushima Prefecture M6.2 on June 13, 2010
(Depth of approximately 40km www.jishin.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:50:17 PM

from the doc below!!!!!

"On March 9, there was a M7.3 earthquake off-shore of Sanriku.(The rest is omitted.)"
In the vicinity of the recent event, there was brisk seismicity such as four earthquakes of M5.0 or over in the last month.
On March 9, there was a M7.3 earthquake off-shore of Sanriku. The focal mechanism showed a reverse fault with a compression axis in a WNW-ESE direction. This event occurred on the boundary between the Pacific and the continental plates. According to the GPS data, crustal movements associated with this event were observed and there was a movement of approximately 3 cm toward the east-southeast at the Ofunato station (Iwate prefecture)
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 2:51:48 PM

www.jishin.go.jp Crustal Movements Associated with Earthquake (March 9, M7.3) Off-shore of Sanriku
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:03:31 PM

now then on the 10th of march there is a 6 .3 a little nearer than the quake on the 9th www.jishin.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:07:52 PM

Added all to the library under Seismic. This really does look like the leadup.
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 3:08:15 PM

so should I see what I can find on the 1 on the 10th now
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:08:56 PM

@elainekirk Yea see if you see anything that seems out of ordinary for one tht small
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 3:09:59 PM

@lillymunster well the pattern of crustal movement after the one on the 9th mst have meant fuku moved too I will see what else there is on the 1 on the 10th that is the first I have seen of it in that diagram
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:10:15 PM

@lillymunster it was SIX.3 I missed the SIX off
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:10:37 PM

I think my number SIX is sticking lol
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:11:17 PM

actually it is 6.8 must wear my glasses
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:17:27 PM

:-)
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 3:22:56 PM

Out to go get food at the farmers market - will be back online in a fw hours
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 3:38:12 PM

@lillymunster have fun
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 3:50:04 PM

@elainekirk have been thinking all the time of your radiation maps. maybe they chose zulu time and not JST. then the eartquake was 6:45 am GMT. i think 9 hours earlier, but it still does not fit.
by Edano 10/15/2011 5:07:41 PM

@Edano there was a 6.8 on the 10th and a 7.3 on the 9th the one on the 10th was slap bang next to the big one
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 5:27:16 PM

@elainekirk yes, i know, there were prequakes. but do you want to assume that radiation was released before the big one ? venting ???
i do not think that 6.8 or 7.3 was beyond design ........ and shouldn't they have scrammed if there was an emergency before ?
by Edano 10/15/2011 5:34:16 PM

the reactors were on full power when the big one happened ....
by Edano 10/15/2011 5:36:04 PM

@Edano I dunno just trying to make sense of it
by elainekirk 10/15/2011 5:42:34 PM

english.kyodonews.jp

'Occupy' protest in Tokyo
People take to the streets in Tokyo on Oct. 15, 2011 to protest against income disparity. Movements inspired by the ''Occupy Wall Street'' protest in New York have spread to other parts of the world. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/15/2011 6:32:42 PM

Seismologists discuss 3/11

Japanese earthquake experts, at their first symposium since the March 11th disaster, have discussed improving ways to provide society with information on major earthquakes.

The Seismological Society of Japan hosted the 4-day meeting at Shizuoka University in central Japan. The gathering ended on Saturday.

At the beginning of the final session, 500 participants offered a silent prayer for the victims of the March disaster.

Many of the scholars expressed regret that they were unable to predict the March 11th earthquake.

Tohoku University Professor Toru Matsuzawa said the experts thought that an earthquake off the Tohoku region would have had a magnitude of no more than 8, based on data accumulated during the last 100 years. He said an unconventional approach would have been necessary to predict an earthquake of such magnitude.

Professor emeritus Katsuhiko Ishibashi of Kobe University has been warning about the potential risks earthquakes pose to nuclear power plants.

He said seismologists are responsible for informing the public about the risks of natural disasters that are likely to hit their local areas. He said people have no way of knowing the truth if the scholars remain silent, adding that they must disclose everything they know.

The group will complete a report on their earthquake studies by next spring.

Saturday, October 15, 2011 22:21 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 10/15/2011 6:37:43 PM

Protests against economic gap held in Tokyo

As protests continue in the US, hundreds of people have staged similar demonstrations in Tokyo.

The Japanese event was held on Saturday as part of simultaneous protests worldwide called on the Internet by people supporting demonstrations on Wall Street that started last month.

About 170 demonstrators marched in central Tokyo, calling for eradicating poverty. Some also appealed for an end to nuclear power generation. An organizing group member expressed his hope that public movements will spread this way in Japan.

At a different part of Tokyo, about 80 protesters gathered to appeal for the creation of more jobs and correction of economic disparities. A participant said he wants to work with others to create a happy society for all.

Saturday, October 15, 2011 16:12 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 10/15/2011 6:42:32 PM

polpix.sueddeutsche.com

wow. 150,000 in Rome !
by Edano via Polpix.sueddeutsche 10/15/2011 6:52:04 PM

@Edano public radio here said some group called the black something or anothers... started smashing windows during the protests. I couldn't catch the exact name but it sounded like they were some existing group for some purpose.
by lillymunster 10/15/2011 6:55:07 PM