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Lots of places sending boric acid too..Diablo reactor in US for one.

@Sin The 1st reading it measuring the concentration of Iodine (I) and Cesium (Cs) in the air. They are measuring 4.0 bq/cubic meter of Iodine, and 1.2 of Cesium. The "reading" column is the actual radiation your body would absorb, which is 5.5 micro Sv /hour (uSv). So in 1 day you would experience 132 uSv, which is just 0.132 mSv /day.

@Sin Check out the top of p.3 for some eye-popping numbers.

@Jojo Another possible interpretation would be the amount received if ingested, no?

@Sin Even though those numbers are (comparatively) low of .132 mSv/day, after 10 days you would experience 1.32 mSv. EPA sets an upper limit of 1 mSv for the general public for the year.

eah...I got it now. It is even more of a coverup than I thought.

@Jojo uSv per kg is never a valid measurement. What I was thinking was that once inside, you would receive that much internally per hour.

they used it all already

@borrrden I think you can. Water would be measured at Sv / L, meaning you drink 1 L you get x Sv. For food it should be Sv /kg: eat 1 kg, get x Sv.

Sorry, here is the link to the article that states those limits. english.kyodonews.jp

*correction boron to japan

And as far as I know, these amounts are not a big deal in the media anywhere are they?

@Sinthia Domina I remember seeing those numbers reported on NHK.

Seems like the largest amount I had seen in the media was the plant in Tokyo at the research facility.

NEWS ADVISORY: High radiation suspends work to fix Fukushima plant's No. 1 reactor

@borrrden Thankfully. But again how much of it was happily consumed by residents BEFORE they banned it? And there is no way to get such high numbers on spinach w/o having high numbers in the air/soil.

@borrrden Yes, the news report is on soil. Which are still incredibly huge. The 1,500,000 bq /kg is what they measured the other day on spinach. Same town, one was soil, this is spinach. With soil measurements of 163,000 Bq/kg, it will be difficult to grow anything in that town for a long time.

@Jojo Yes, on that point I completely agree. Those high soil levels have a very good chance of severely damaging the region ecologically and economically for years to come. Probably fair to say over 100 years (there are unknown factors, such as crops that are resilient to uptake of cesium, advancements in the field of nuclear science allowing us to clean the soil somehow, etc). That is a secondary priority though, the first priority is of course the health and safety of all the residents.

@borrrden They also are a big health concern now, esp. the elevated Iodine levels. Iitate Village is getting considerable radiation just from having 1170000 Bq of Iodine and 163000 Bq of Cesium / kg in their soil. It's not as much Sv as eating food/drinking water, but you're going to have SOME people that will drink the water, or in the shower, brushing your teeth, whatever. Kids in that town are going to drink from the tap, etc. And are they going to give bottled water to their dog forever? And you're going to get Sv every second that you are around the radiation in the soil, and these radiation readings are INCREASING. I don't know why they don't evacuate.

@Sin Iitate Village (that have these huge numbers), is 40 (!) km from the plant. I have seen isolated elevated numbers 75 km from the plant. They need to immediately check every town and FORCE evacuations. Otherwise you're just sentencing them to a death by cancer. Even the kids.

and they would need to have people going out in the snow to evacuate and be further contaminated.

@Hank Scorpio WTF is up with a suggestion? Is it safe or not? If it's safe, why ask me to leave? If it's not safe, why not require everyone to leave? It's like a fireman going into a burning building but the people in a room don't know it's burning, and he says "do you mind leaving. No reason, just if you feel like it". ???