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@Jojo - It's a Japanese thing. They beat around the bush and say things indirectly.

@Sin I don't know what it is, I think the gov't, is afraid of panic, or is kowtowing to TEPCO, or is just incompetent/stubborn. It's literally killing people every day they don't act.

I have done a lot of research on radiation lately. I was in healthcare for awhile....I know exactly what will happen.

@Hank Scorpio And why force the 20 km evacuation and not further? There are little babies that are getting irradiated every day, for what?

@Sin You're right. Most of these cancers will happen years from now, maybe NPR will do a story on it and that's it. But what is the point of the Japanese gov't. to make them suffer? Sentence people to a painful cancer death to save a few points of the Nikkei for a few days?

and these people will all be dispersed so no way to prove it was contamination, just like the IAEA says only 4000 people have or will ever die from Chernobl.

Those are good points Albert, and many are elderly or bed ridden and cannot voluntarily leave.

@borrrden We have access to the radiation data, and we have access to the EPA and estimated fatal cancer risks for exposure to each element. www.epa.gov It's simple arithmetic.

@Hank Scorpio And let days pass while everyone drinks irradiated water? They haven't evacuated Iitate Village, just asked them not to eat spinach.

@borrrden Granted levels change, but the EPA link calculates the % chance of cancer fatality by exposure of each element. It has coefficients by isotope, ingestion, inhalation, soil, air, etc.

Sinthia, I simply don't believe the results of those "tests." In fact, I would put money on the report being a complete fabrication. I don't think they tested anyone at all. Everything was completely anonymous so there's no way to verify either the testing or the results. I'm not generally a conspiracy theorist, but the Japanese Government is quickly changing my mind in that regard. I don't believe one single thing they say. In fact, I think the truth can be reached by taking what the Japanese Government says and reversing it 100%.

@Hank Scorpio You're probably right. I just hope they do it soon.

Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Shows the number of people currently confirmed contaminated and the levels of contamination. www.nisa.meti.go.jp

Bev...well I would want to know more details about the testing...I know a lot is being suppressed but I try and remain objective.

yes...I have watched every Chernobyl documentary I could find lately

For example, they calculate for ingestion, the coefficient is 0.000000000185 Bq/kg. So if the reading is 1110000, then multiplying them gives 0.00020535 fatalities/kg ingested. (1 out of 4869 people). 1 kg is about 10 servings, so figure 10 days of eating this and the EPA estimates that 1 out of 4869 will contract fatal cancer from this exposure.

Thanks, @Hank Scorpio. I'm with you 110%, so they can make that 55 kms.
> ... I hope that, since they're doing it anyway, they
> extend it to at least 50km and not just 30.

They absolutely are suppressing this. Take the link about radiation dmage www.nisa.meti.go.jp they are cherry-picking the lowest numbers in the prefecture and completely ignoring the staggering ones.

Back to the EPA/spinach, the 1 out of 4869 is only for iodine. When you add in the Cesium, it's 1 in 808 people that will get fatal cancer from eating 1 kg of spinach. Figure .1 kg /day, after 10 days that will be 1 kg/1 in 808 people. In 100 days it will be 1 in 80 (assuming static radiation levels, but you get the point) that will get fatal cancer. And that isn't including radiation from water, soil, or air. Just spinach.

Thats what I had said earlier Bev

@Bev - It's an odd day when we trust the Soviet government over a western agency. All governments lie.

go to IAEA and search on their site for Chernobyl and read their reports. They say that the increased cancers in the Ukraine can be attributed to alcohol consumption and depressed economic situations.