Japan Earthquake

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@Jim: Please be cautious. The russian solution is at least a plan C scenario: After that any hopes have to be given up. Once their solution is started it's definitely game over. No one really wants to see that...

by Max 3/26/2011 5:09:14 PM

@Janis and others. The real reason we are not getting the truth from out gov't is that our system is fundamentally flawed. Our leaders our in bed with industry. Obama is a huge proponent of nuclear power. Exelon was a big contributor to his campaign. www.bloomberg.com Obama wants to bankrupt the coal industry. He said this on his campaign, "So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can -- it's just that it will bankrupt them..". Bottom line is that you can't get honesty out of government, especially during times of crisis. They will always down play things as they happen you won't get the full story until years later (if ever). That's why blogs like this are useful. Helps you to get all the viewpoints so you can make the best decisions.
by tippytoe 3/26/2011 5:10:27 PM

@Janis [opinion] I don't think anyone know.. I have look in wikipedia at a "liquid metal cooling ", from ukrainian scientist, which seem possible from a newbie view, but I can't say if it's ok from a scientist view. They told about it, because they learned from their mistake (lead was a real bad option, but not the worse) the only thing sure is that the cores and spent fuel polls should be cool down permanently, before being buried
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 5:11:16 PM

@M There's still the "yet" factor. And what about the detorioration in people's lives?
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 5:11:42 PM

Interesting short film of Chernobyl shot right after the accident by Vladimir Shevchenko, who dies two months after shooting the material: j.mp . It shows you how much people were kept in the dark and not told the real dangers.
by vasra 3/26/2011 5:12:10 PM

New Greenpeace Report (25/3/2011): "A new analysis prepared for Greenpeace Germany by nuclear safety expert Dr Helmut Hirsch shows that by March 23 2011, Japan’s nuclear crisis has already released enough radioactivity to be ranked at Level 7 on the International Nuclear Event Scale (INES). This is the scale’s highest level, and equal to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster.
Hirsch’s assessment, based on data published by the French government's radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian governments Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of radionuclides iodine-131 and caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 have been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents."
by Dom 3/26/2011 5:12:21 PM

Greenpeace.
by NHK Listener 3/26/2011 5:14:07 PM

@M I disagree only in that a) the information should be purely available for the sake of emergency responses because of b) the absolutely GRAVE consequences to our global community. This plant if it goes south will have significant outcomes that will affect almost every aspect of our living future whether directly or indirectly.
by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/26/2011 5:14:15 PM

@Jim Carver News agencies are there to report NEWS and not to speculate about what might happen in the future.
by M 3/26/2011 5:14:20 PM

@M ... Spot on! News by its very definition has to be "new"....a fortnight old nuclear disaster in the making doesn't interest most people...until it becomes "new" again...and I for one, hope that doesn't happen...
by MaryMary 3/26/2011 5:14:29 PM

@M I would like to be such optimistic... I have said the 12 that almost 35 000 peoples are dead... Medias said 30 to 300.. the problem is the same for nuclear death : it take time, so no medias talk about it : " ho, another one died from cancer, but we can't be sure that it came from chernobyl ... the officials death for Chernobyl is 34 or 31 according to official sources...
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 5:15:17 PM

I respectfully disagree, M. Our news media has never backed away from an ongoing situation just because there wasn't really anything new to report. I have seen them dwell on a subject, and beat a dead horse until I could barely stand them saying the same thing over and over again, for days or weeks on end. I still don't understand why they are so quiet on the subject..not asking for round the clock coverage here, just that it deserves way more coverage. There's not even a lot reported anymore on what Japan is suffering through because of the earthquake and tsunami. Japan is second page news now, and I don't understand why. That's all.
by Janis 3/26/2011 5:15:23 PM

@ M... What does Fox/CNN/MSNBC do...I'm pretty sure they cover lots of specculation. They're covering it in Libya now... Uhm...last I checked its what gives ratings.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:15:37 PM

@Janis- you said it properly.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:16:03 PM

@M True, but they do it all the time anyway. Mostly through not-so-suble inference. But not CNN, of course :)
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 5:16:10 PM

@NISA 20mar Unit1 : reactor vessel pressure, 0.295mPa; containment, 0.170mPa; suppression pool, 0.160mPa 26Mar Unit 1 : reactor,0.477mPa; containment, 0.270mPa; suppression pool, 0.270mPa Unit 1 pressures building across the board.
by marie rich 3/26/2011 5:16:39 PM

@Janis, 100% agree, except that I personally think this DOES deserve around the clock coverage. Just my $0.02.
by Rucco 3/26/2011 5:16:58 PM

@marie rich starts with 20 mar ....
by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/26/2011 5:17:56 PM

Around the clock coverage for yesterday was they got some lights on in a control room.
by NHK Listener 3/26/2011 5:18:04 PM

[OPINION] The MSM is there to shape your opinion and thoughts on things. Its programming for the brain that will ensure you fall into line for the Powers that Be. It's not meant to be pure information for you to weigh and make informed decisions from.
by tippytoe 3/26/2011 5:18:33 PM

@ NHK Listener- thats what was approved. More is happening. Until they know how to deal with it... we won't be told much.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:18:54 PM

Here is a website with lots of links: oldbooks.net
by billmcd 3/26/2011 5:19:09 PM

@Future Isnow Any reputable news agency can and will not try to make guesses about how many people will die in the future.
by M 3/26/2011 5:19:12 PM

@ M any reputable news agency will keep you informed.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:19:48 PM

@stef Yeah it sucks that there isn't more positive news. That is really all I want is to here that they will fix it fast.
by NHK Listener 3/26/2011 5:21:05 PM

I always considered quality instead of quanity the most important.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 5:21:25 PM

@M You're right. We call those "tabloids".
by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/26/2011 5:21:26 PM

the basis of brain washing - A 9.0 magnitude earthquake and resulting tsunami damaged a nuclear reactor... how many news stories have this embedded. Its in every paper - news cast blog site...
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 5:21:42 PM

@George Gibb Sure, simple cause and effect...now let's get on with the day.
by Jim Carver 3/26/2011 5:23:14 PM

In easy terms: The news agencies were basically watching a building that was burning and stating how many people could be hurt. "There are 72 people in that building. If they don't get out, this one could be a disaster" ...the day the news starts to not even talk about what could go wrong in the wake up something like this and not inform us, or speculate even- that's the day we've officially lost touch. But if you'd like me to entertain that media is not reporting due to lack of interest or news...okay...I sure hope to see ONLY news on libya...not fluff or speculation.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:23:28 PM

Not sure I undersrandx
by amianda 3/26/2011 5:23:43 PM

@amianda understand what?
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 5:24:32 PM

not sure I understand your reference to brainwashing george....
by amianda 3/26/2011 5:24:32 PM

@M and that's a pity, because they do agree with some others informations. for exemple: "Weapons of destructions" I have watch and watch again, as a nightmare becoming true, every tsunami video, on the first day. It WAS IMPOSSIBLE to say that there was 30 death..; we seen them dying live, on the Nhk live footage ! so, when there is such image, and they got them, no need to wait for official Japan's government communicate, to say that it is a tragedy, whith hundred or may be thousands of people. I'm really sorry to have been right, using Google map and wikipedia, to have an idea of how many people live in every place. But it was Obviously impossible to have so few deaths.. and that is important, because, people and media take deaths in account..
by Future Isnow 3/26/2011 5:24:39 PM

@George Gibb It's way too scary for the world to know a simple power cut can cause such havoc. A tsunami, now that's understandable.
by es 3/26/2011 5:24:54 PM

Sorry, posting from my cell makes accidents happen...
by amianda 3/26/2011 5:25:10 PM

@Janis: Good point: Not only te nuclear problem, but also the "normal" destruction of this region is not reported adequate in my personal eyes in the media.

We have reports of ships washed inland, which we saw days ago. Now the reporters can walk to them and film them closely. Some ups in the number of casualties, reports about radioactive food, but nearly nothing about the repair/clean-up and the situation of the citizens & infrastucture/supply.
by Max 3/26/2011 5:25:48 PM

oh - repeatedly being told the same thing over and over until you believe it.
by George Gibb 3/26/2011 5:26:03 PM

@ the brainwashing comment- what I believe is being said is the media is blaming the quake and tsunami for what is happening with the nuclear reactors causing a crisis, when it was a ticking time bomb the whole time and they were warned.
by stef 3/26/2011 5:26:40 PM

@george are you saying the 9.0 earthquake and subsequent tsunami did not cause the nuclear disaster?
by amianda 3/26/2011 5:27:25 PM

@George The power of words can not be overestimated. The simple embedding of that line over and over, followed by information that is built upon that as a premise, makes it so whatever you hear later, fact or conspiracy theory, you opine on that, having already accepted the false premise.
by radioguy 3/26/2011 5:27:44 PM