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  • ok..thnx ..things now clear
    by hans 3/27/2011 3:14:42 PM

  • @Marie: Policy & Procedure require that they report so that's what they all do and, hopefully, follow protocol. I read somewhere that some of the engineers were looking at the wrong spec for buildings - this happened in the very beginning. Haha! re: the tech observation. Makes you wonder, huh? Maybe, it's budgetary.
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:15:30 PM

  • JAIF report says water levels in #3 sfp is very low. Along with the allthingsnuclear story posted recently that they think the sfp in all are leaking due to the seals not being inflated. I think that is a significant issue they are not telling the public via the media.
    by Nancy 3/27/2011 3:16:21 PM

  • Big difference between smoke and steam.... where there's smoke, there is _____. It's steam and it's been pouring out for two weeks. Nothing new.
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:17:11 PM

  • @Karen So sorry for not being a perfect english speaker and writer. Maybe you can discuss this story with me in german? Eh? Thought so...
    by Salvador 3/27/2011 3:18:51 PM

  • The trees right outside reactors look lush green. Dont think radioactivity levels are that high outside reactor buildings. Have a look at the start of the video
    by Optim 3/27/2011 3:19:12 PM

  • @Salvador: Did I say something that offended you? If so, not my intent, but apologies anyway... :-)
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:20:29 PM

  • @All White smoke in the video is steam. I know this from many years observing smoke columns.
    by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:20:37 PM

  • the yellow thing cannot be the vessel. it is too near to the wall. the vessel is right in the center of the building.
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 3:20:52 PM

  • but maybe it got blown off. Go to photos for diagram. Sorry I don't know how to post it hear..I agree. www.facebook.com!/photo.php?fbid=1908692764090&set=o.186860624662864&theater
    by marie rich edited by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:22:27 PM

  • If that is the containment vessel, the spent fuel pool is destroyed it looks like, since it was above it.
    by Sinthia Domina 3/27/2011 3:23:11 PM

  • @marie. You did it right. Just make sure to add a couple of spaces between text and a link. It should work fine.
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:23:44 PM

  • @Karen Thanks for the help
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 3:24:29 PM

  • @marie rich : if the vessel top is blown off, they should have had much higher radiation.
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 3:25:09 PM

  • it seems noboody knows anything....this is the tragedy
    by hans 3/27/2011 3:25:57 PM

  • Have a good day everyone...
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:26:01 PM

  • @ George Gibb, I do not doubt that the people on the ground at the plant are doing whatever is humanly possible to get the reactors under control. I sure hope they're getting as much support as possible. My concern is with the withholding of information that puts the public at risk. Radiactive contamination involves not just radiation levels, but also accumulation and time factors: Of course the evacuation zones are nowhere near large enough. People cannot make decisions if faced with situations outside their experiences. They have to rely on accurate information and disclosure in such cases. The Japanese government is very carefully not doing that. It lets TEPCO and NISA (etc.) carry the nuclear can and makes sympathetic noises, occasionally throwing a bone to the public, like the latest vid. It seems to work (see what happens?).
    by T&M 3/27/2011 3:26:10 PM

  • all speculation, for gov, from tepco, from everywhere.....month later the melting goes on and on
    by hans 3/27/2011 3:26:54 PM

  • @Matsuoko Remember that the RPV in Unit 4 was empty.
    by kb 3/27/2011 3:27:02 PM

  • @Matsuko We are talking about reactor #4 here. The one without fuel rods in the reactor.
    by Salvador 3/27/2011 3:27:07 PM

  • I don't think it is blown off. it looks to me like it's where it should be, but you didn't think so, so... @Sin the spent fuel pool is next to the containment cap, according to diagram
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 3:27:12 PM

  • @grizzly..OMG..what a terrible video. Water has amazing power. Video sent shivers down my spine. I am surprised the death count is till below 30,000. That video was the most telling
    by Optim 3/27/2011 3:27:57 PM

  • @Salvador : yes, but nevertheless the inner vessel would be highly radioactive.
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 3:28:13 PM

  • @marie That can't be, because that yellows sphere is in the corner of the building, the south- west one to be exact.
    by Salvador 3/27/2011 3:28:20 PM

  • I'll look at vid again. see if it's just a matter of perspective, angle, whatever.
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 3:29:14 PM

  • @hans @T&M: "They" have stated that it can take weeks or even months to stabalize the situation. I feel sorry for the people.
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:29:21 PM

  • @All: Since getting up this a.m. this AP report is the first indication I've seen that TEPCO can't use the condenser tanks to store the leaked, contiminated water
    by Apollo 3/27/2011 3:29:24 PM

  • The latest JAIF report bothers me. First, it says estimated up top.... Next, all the containment water levels and pressures just seem to indicate all loss of pressure, overheating and undoubtedly something has leaked out as indicated by the water samples in nearby buildings. Is it possible that the cores were already melting (melted) when they started flushing them with sea water, which may have eroded away very large amounts of the corium and settled wherever the water was unable to keep transporting it? My analogy is similar to using a Pressure Washer to clean stuff....
    by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/27/2011 3:29:26 PM

  • by Apollo 3/27/2011 3:29:32 PM

  • I know this is nothing new but on the top of the page of Reuters it says: Japan nuclear plant operator says very high radiation reading at reactor 2 was wrong - www.reuters.com
    by Grizzly 3/27/2011 3:29:57 PM

  • some history on tepco: wow ~ what a fall. and i believe thus publication leans right...http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/the_fall_of_the_house_of_tepco.html
    by elise 3/27/2011 3:30:19 PM

  • @Karen Warren in reality, this will take years, if not decades. We have one example already with Chernobyl.
    by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/27/2011 3:30:52 PM

  • Yellow vessel top. See www.anengineerindc.com and scroll down to graphic. Yellow vessel top in photo definitely not where it should be.
    by Cup 3/27/2011 3:31:06 PM

  • @Grizzly They're going to take new measurements since the reading _may_ have been wrong.
    by kb 3/27/2011 3:31:20 PM

  • @T&M I agree 110% with what your saying - I was attempting to explain why it is necessary.
    by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:31:28 PM

  • @kb And the new readings will show a balance of rainbows and skittles that calms everyone down, lol.
    by Grizzly 3/27/2011 3:32:24 PM

  • @Grizzly lol
    by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:32:41 PM

  • @Dennis Tucker I think your right that the rods had already started to melt before seawater was introduced. I read somewhere that the water in chernobyl was only down for 1 hour exposing the rods which lead to their meltdown.
    by Lethbridgean 3/27/2011 3:33:21 PM

  • @Cup Thought reactor 4 was empty and open for maintenance - meaning the containment cap had been taken off intentionally some time before the quake (and reactor was empty) (?).
    by sims 3/27/2011 3:34:03 PM

  • @Dennis: I agree. My comment was in reference to stabalization. Until then.... ????
    by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 3:35:41 PM

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    by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:36:11 PM

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    by George Gibb 3/27/2011 3:36:17 PM

  • @Salvador I'm pretty sure, having looked again at picture posted below, that it is the containment cap. look to what would be it's right (the back part of pic) and you can see the dark hole indicated on FB diagram that's on either side of it. Don't know if it's the sppent fuel pool or not. But they probably had a live feed to chopper and directed him what to look at/for, so prob. significant.
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 3:36:18 PM

  • @sims : no. it has to be closed always, of course.
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 3:36:24 PM

  • Tepco is wrong here, wrong there, "maybe" their comments are incorrect, "however" they try to find out ... -> Why aren't there other organizations/companies assisting Tepco? Maybe even proving them in case it is that difficult to read. We are now two weeks after the accident. In such a situation one source is inadequate after such a long time.
    by Max 3/27/2011 3:38:39 PM

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