Japan Earthquake | Page 104

  • @elise LOL
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 7:30:11 PM

  • @elise I guess it is a testament to the poor state of engineering and science education. People don't even notice that that aren't getting a straight story because they don't even have the vocabulary to ask the right questions.
    by Joshua Diamond 3/27/2011 7:31:02 PM

  • what would have happened if Japan was not an island and had a neighbour to the East ?
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 7:31:41 PM

  • @joshua, you will never find plans for the exact reactors, they are a matter of national security and are never published.
    by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 7:31:51 PM

  • @Patrick Kelley -- what a wonderful recipe for shoddy work hidden behind secrecy.
    by Joshua Diamond 3/27/2011 7:32:34 PM

  • @Grizzly I know we are a long way from seeing serious dispersal issues here in California, but even the perception of it can be devastating to an outdoor growing state. It was interesting to see that the German Bavarian election swung so hard to the green party a day after Merkel doubled the Chernobyl-set radiation cap on food. Perception is key here. That's why the information flow is being managed so tight to the vest.
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:32:40 PM

  • @Patrick Kelley The report says uncontrolled melt through is 28 hrs.. So if it happened. Which it didn't.. It would have already.
    by NHK Listener 3/27/2011 7:32:42 PM

  • @Josh I found this. media.tumblr.com

    by Ralph Unger via Media.tumblr 3/27/2011 7:32:44 PM

  • @Ralph Unger -- thanks ralph. That seems to be a summary for the SFP. Any info on the RPV itself?
    by Joshua Diamond 3/27/2011 7:33:49 PM

  • @Matsouko We would have found out the truth long time ago...
    by Jill in Sweden 3/27/2011 7:33:53 PM

  • This isn't the first time we've failed to provide safe Nuclear Energy, however, I do hope its the last . . .
    by Tenzing 3/27/2011 7:34:08 PM

  • The gates may have failed. Whole article allthingsnuclear.org
    by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 7:34:25 PM

  • @radioguy I agree, misinformation and panic are the reasons why the rest of the world gets scared. Radiation is very heavy- it can't travel far on our planet in very large amounts that are deadly. The Pacific is huge an it is a buffer between the radiation and the U.S., even Alaska will have little impacts. The problem is people would rather talk about how bad it can get, drive up fears, drive up prices, and then say "oh, wait, we were wrong." It is unfortunate.
    by Grizzly 3/27/2011 7:34:39 PM

  • @Jill in Sweden : would have been a complete catastrophy for the neighbour, no ?
    by Matsuoko 3/27/2011 7:34:52 PM

  • Since there is no News, i am sharing another Video that just crossed my Tweeds of the force from the Tsunami..for those interested.
    www.youtube.com
    by VeenOui 3/27/2011 7:35:00 PM

  • @Ralph Unger I mention that before and it would explain low water in the pools as well
    by NHK Listener 3/27/2011 7:35:10 PM

  • @Joshua The All Things Nuclear site had a pretty good one.
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:35:22 PM

  • @NHK if it was critical the whole time yes, but we are talking about critical-subcritical-critical-subcritical, they are managing to slow the process down, but I fear (and the molecular data backs this up) they can only slow it down so much. If the radiation get to high and they have to pull out, then we could have full critcallity and that will be very bad.

    I have no problems with the work Tepco is doing, I can't believe they have managed this long, but the longer it goes in this stage the worse it is getting.
    by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 7:35:26 PM

  • @Future Isnow Come back soon
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 7:35:40 PM

  • @Matsouko Definately
    by Jill in Sweden 3/27/2011 7:36:14 PM

  • Sorry....meant to post this :

    Japan's nuclear safety regulators expressed the view that “there is a continuous leakage” of radioactive substances.

    And, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), which runs the plant and is responsible for managing the crisis, indicated that “there is a breach in the reactor” at Unit 2.

    Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said, in a televised press conference in Tokyo, “a certain amount of radioactive materials has melted” at Unit 2 in the multi-reactor plant.
    www.thehindu.com
    by VeenOui 3/27/2011 7:36:30 PM

  • oops! heres the link. The 1957 WINDSCALE FIRE Lakestay UK "At 4.30pm yesterday it was discovered that some of the uranium cartidges in the centre of Pile 1 at Windscale, which was shut down at the time,for routine isolation of the uranium and for maintenance work, had become over-heated to the point of red heat. The combustion is being held. The staffs are now injecting water on it from above and the temperature has started to fall. Some oxidation of the uranium has occured.
    "The greater part of this has been returned by filters in the Windscale chimneys. A small amount has been distributed over the works site and in some areas works personnel, as a precautionary measure, have been instructed to stay under cover." sound familiar? www.lakestay.co.uk
    by Tenzing 3/27/2011 7:36:39 PM

  • Here is a web page with 4 atmospheric dispersion models. www.weatheronline.co.uk
    by Bobby1 3/27/2011 7:37:35 PM

  • Since there is very little news, Las Vegas is currently sitting at 8cpm by my measure.
    by Natalie 3/27/2011 7:38:07 PM

  • by Ralph Unger via Files.gereports 3/27/2011 7:38:12 PM

  • Oh the brand new posting at the top of all things nuclear is good. "How Much Does Japan Know About the Status of its Reactors?"
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:38:36 PM

  • @Natalie I read that this morning, my husband is supposed to leave for turbine training in Vegas next week, I'm doing my best to not be alarmist and ask him not to go :(
    by Canadian 3/27/2011 7:39:33 PM

  • @marie rich : Thanks Marie. Not a lot been happening then (or that's been reported by TEPCO at least). Prompted one thought though... if they can't even get close enough to R2 for measuring the radiation, they've surely got a snowball in hell's chance of getting close enough to sort out the cause. Hard to believe the thing will automagically get better all by itself either (except after a few thousand years maybe).
    by Paul (UK) 3/27/2011 7:39:34 PM

  • @Ralph Really good.
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:39:47 PM

  • @Natalie Are you in LV ? I saw the article that NV has identified particles from Fukushima but minute......compared to what ? I would think, that NV has a much higher SAFE Lvl than other states due to Nuclear testing as is ?
    by VeenOui 3/27/2011 7:40:17 PM

  • @VeenOui That was an awesome video...the power of the tsunami was just incredible.
    by James Ward 3/27/2011 7:40:28 PM

  • Expansion joints look like the weak spot for a 9.0 quake.
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:40:51 PM

  • I am so grateful to so many of you who post with an intelligence and concern that is lacking elsewhere. The information and questions are so valuable. Thank you .
    by Barbara 3/27/2011 7:41:03 PM

  • @Canadian Why? What are your concerns?
    by Andy 3/27/2011 7:41:24 PM

  • @James Ward Yea, i thought it showed the brunt force really harsh.kept coming and coming
    by VeenOui 3/27/2011 7:41:40 PM

  • @veenOui @canadian CPM rates of 100 or more would cause some concern. (very little concern I might add)
    by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 7:41:54 PM

  • Mods to the mark 1 www.gereports.com
    by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 7:42:04 PM

  • re-post: Many pics of actual reactor parts. For your delectation :) www.facebook.com!/pages/nuke-roadie/186860624662864?sk=photos
    by marie rich 3/27/2011 7:42:14 PM

  • @Andy the unknown I think, logically I know that there is no danger right now, not knowing the true potential of what MIGHT happen makes me hesitant.
    by Canadian 3/27/2011 7:42:26 PM

  • @Canadian I wouldn't worry at all. 9cpm is really low. You'd have more of a worry of a sunburn. @VeenOui, I'm comparing it to normal cpm's that background radiation gives you. I never tried the Geiger out before this happened. (I was recently informed that we had one.) But yea, I would think so too. Just because of the testings near here.
    by Natalie 3/27/2011 7:42:48 PM

  • There are no problems in the US because of this.
    by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 7:42:56 PM

  • Laughing... I made it to the second paragraph of that, Ralph.
    by radioguy 3/27/2011 7:43:18 PM

  • @Ralph Unger -- none of these diagrams really show all of the detail. They are all aimed at laypeople, and are good for the broad strokes -- but omit the details. And it is in the details that the problems usually lay. So far, the best I have found is the one at en.wikipedia.org -- but that too is pretty truncated, in that it does not extend to the turbine room...
    by Joshua Diamond 3/27/2011 7:43:48 PM

  • Thank you for the reassurances, logic tells me you are all right, which is why we have discussed it (he has similar hesitations and he works @ a nuclear plant) and have come to the conclusion he should still go. It is the unknown that hangs over this that raises some emotional doubts I suppose.
    by Canadian 3/27/2011 7:44:39 PM

  • I'll try again lol. www.beyondnuclear.org
    by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 7:45:16 PM

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