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@Bev....I'll give you a pass, just because your're married to an Alex Jones nut, but I think it only serves to make my point. I am married to a Lancaster County Mennonite girl, and despite her best efforts, she is a whole lot less Amish then she was 7 years agoby wrshpr 4/14/2011 6:14:16 AM- @lisa goodnight and you're welcome. Best of health to your LA family.by ms in la 4/14/2011 6:14:18 AM
@wrshpr I'm sure he's rubbed off, it's inevitable. But my hobby has been debunking his insanity. ;-) Speaking of insanity, just checked beta levels reported by EPA in Orlando. Interestingly, they stopped measuring on the 19th of March. Or stopped reporting, rather. However gamma levels are available. www.epa.govby Bev 4/14/2011 6:20:33 AM
*From 7:35PM on April 12, we started transferring accumulated water in
Turbine Building from the trench of Unit 2 to the condenser. At 11:00AM
on April 13, we stopped transferring accumulated water to check whether
there was water leakage from condenser or not. We didn't find any problem,
so we restarted transferring at 15:02PM of the same day. At 17:04PM, the
scheduled transfer was completed.
www.tepco.co.jpby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:21:25 AM
@Sinthia Domina I believe that you're correct in your assessment of Jaczko's actions at the NRC. "The NRC went into “monitoring mode” on March 11, Jaczko explained—a status that allowed it to deploy a 24-hour assistance team to Japan." Without implementing the Emergency Action, the US wouldn't even have the Initial Responce Team on site.by Reed 4/14/2011 6:22:28 AM- I am out of my depth here, but are not condensers made to hold water and steam, not just water? If the structure is weakened, I wonder what could happen if it is filled completely with water.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:24:58 AM
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@Bev Perhaps the April 1 spike relates to sun spots... But the current sun spots look like they're going off the chart...
www.solen.infoby Rob in SF via Solen.info 4/14/2011 6:25:18 AM- @Ralph Unger I think it would leak into the water from the inlet that goes to the water outlet north.. Not 100% sure though.. So back into the oceanby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:31:23 AM
- @Rob Interesting! The gamma spikes in range 9 could correlate to that. The measured flux in the chart you posted doesn't seem to be rising as quickly as the sunspot activity. Maybe we'll see a spike in today's flux and gamma 9 range measurements.by Bev 4/14/2011 6:32:16 AM
- @NHK I am talking about the pumping of the radioactive water into a piece of machinery that was not originally designed as a tank.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:33:36 AM
- A condenser is where you cool steam (or any vapor)to make it water(liquid) again. It is not built to be completely full of liquids.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:35:15 AM
- @Ralph Steam is usually under pressure, so in general would create more stress on a container than liquid without pressure.by Bev 4/14/2011 6:35:44 AM
- @Ralph Unger It was designed as a tank.. Condenser= heat exchanger.. pretty sure same sameby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:35:46 AM
- Pressure and weight are two different forces.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:36:05 AM
- My radiator is always full of water, they are not the same, steam should never be in my radiator.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:37:04 AM
- Radiator=heat exchanger.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:37:21 AM
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by NHK Listener via 2.bp.blogspot 4/14/2011 6:37:29 AM- @Ralph Unger And I don't think they will fill them over capacityby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:38:13 AM
- @Ralph True. What would be most at risk in the case you describe would be the supporting structures of the vessel.by Bev 4/14/2011 6:38:38 AM
- I only mention that because the devil is in the details. And they seem to miss the details constantly as they try to handle the accident Yep Bev, that is what I am talking about.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:39:40 AM
- If the condenser moves, all piping will break and it will leak, even if the tanks are still whole.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:40:49 AM
- @Ralph Unger This stuff is why the big aftershocks are freaking experts out.by Rob in SF 4/14/2011 6:43:56 AM
- @Rob Yeppersby Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:44:53 AM
- I think that Fukushima is kinda pre-disastered, but other plants might be at risk.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:45:58 AM
- @Ralph Unger example Onagawa nuke plant suffers jolt greater than designed in aftershock english.kyodonews.jpby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:47:21 AM
- @Ralph Unger Plus, everything is hot, flooded, or both, so who knows what's cracked or broken?by Rob in SF 4/14/2011 6:47:57 AM
- But without the tsunami, it still did OK. There is always the straw that breaks the camels back though.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:48:21 AM
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I keep thinking of the 3 Mile Island corium blobs which suprised the heck out of everyone when they finally saw them...by Rob in SF via Tweetsareforbirds 4/14/2011 6:50:48 AM
@Rob in SF Looks like pohoehoe.by radioguy 4/14/2011 6:52:40 AM- Yep, everything looks like it is under control to me though, a slow lowering of radioactivity levels that I hope continues. But it is far from under control and there are many ways it could get bad again. Even at these levels, I agree with those who rate it as a 7.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:53:01 AM
- Has anybody checked the pressure in R1 lately? 0.933 MP_g. What are we doing, waiting for it to blow?by Bev 4/14/2011 6:54:25 AM
- If they vent it, the nice numbers I just mentioned might change.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:55:28 AM
- @Bev it will go to 7MPa so no worriesby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:55:49 AM
- Even with quake damage? I cannot know that.by Ralph Unger 4/14/2011 6:56:15 AM
- @Bev Is that down from 1.006 or whatever it was?by radioguy 4/14/2011 6:57:28 AM
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@NHK Listener - That limit is based upon perfect construction with no stress-induced weaknesses. It'd be foolhardy to allow it to come close at this point, but I do agree it's a long ways off from being dangerous.by Hank Scorpio 4/14/2011 6:58:02 AM- @Ralph I don't think they have the ability to vent it or they'd keep those levels around operating capacity of 400 MP_ab We're approaching 3x that level.by Bev 4/14/2011 6:58:02 AM
- @Ralph Unger It still hold pressure right.. Designed for 7MPa and no way to vent.. What are they to do then?by NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:58:17 AM
- @NHK Listener Luckily thta reactor hasn't suffered any physical damage lately that might decrease that safety margin.by radioguy 4/14/2011 6:58:22 AM
- @Hank Scorpio That limit is for the automatic valve releaseby NHK Listener 4/14/2011 6:58:51 AM
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