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  • Drywell neck?
    by radioguy 4/24/2011 5:09:37 PM

  • not sure if this has any new information but the Japanese media seems to be trying to build information about the reactor disaster translate.google.com
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:09:52 PM

  • @radioguy That is what I am thinking, chunk out of the inside of the dry well. It would almost have to have come in contact with fuel material to be that radioactive a month later.
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:11:14 PM

  • i am sure that i saw that the sfp has a concrete cap,
    a load of long slabs, could that be the source of the concrete
    by Treiagonaut 4/24/2011 5:11:44 PM

  • @Nancy @radioguy : what reactor ?
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:12:49 PM

  • TEPCO discloses radiation map
    Tokyo Electric Power Company has disclosed a map of radiation levels at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

    The utility plans to urgently remove radioactive rubble, and the map will help to protect workers from unnecessary exposure to radiation.

    TEPCO began making the map in late March, and has posted copies in the plant's buildings.

    The map shows radiation levels that controllers measured around the first 4 reactors before the start of the working day.

    Radiation levels around the Number 3 reactor building, which was damaged by a powerful hydrogen explosion, are higher than in other locations, and 300 millisieverts per hour of radiation was detected in debris on a nearby mountainside.

    Work started on April 6th to remove contaminated rubble, which had been obstructing the restoration process.

    TEPCO says much of the debris around the former office building has been removed, and it has started clearing the rubble around the Number 3 and Number 4 reactors.

    Enough debris has been removed to fill 50 containers, and it is being kept in a field on the mountainside.

    The radiation levels one meter away are 1 to 2 millisieverts per hour.
    Sunday, April 24, 2011 22:32 +0900 (JST). They admitted debris fell on a mountainside. Progress? www3.nhk.or.jp
    by LM 4/24/2011 5:13:13 PM

  • @Treiagonaut nope. I have a bunch of pre-quake inside images. The SFP was wide open. Look at the pages "tour inside fukushima" and "inside R3" www.houseoffoust.com
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:14:03 PM

  • @Edano Reactor 3
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:14:29 PM

  • If anyone finds a copy of the radiation map in question can you get the link pinned to the top?
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:14:51 PM

  • @Nancy : but drywell pressure was normal until one week after explosion.
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:15:13 PM

  • @Peter Melzer the finding of that highly radioactive concrete piece and the material they buried plus hot spots all over the complex. Makes me wonder if #3 didn't have more of an incident?
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:16:07 PM

  • @Edano yes we know this but there is so much information piling up to the contrary that people are starting to wonder if those readings were correct or not. Could have been incorrect readings or falsified numbers?
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:17:16 PM

  • @Nancy : huuuu, i really love conspiration things, but this is ....... unbelievable ?
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:19:27 PM

  • Thousands protest nuclear plants at Tokyo rally

    About 4,500 people have rallied in Tokyo to call for the suspension of nuclear power plants. www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:21:59 PM

  • TEPCO: Radiation in groundwater little changed TEPCO also released figures for levels of radioactive substances in groundwater samples collected around the compound.
    It says there has been little change in levels of iodine-131 and cesium-134 since the transfer began, suggesting that the contaminated water has not leaked from the nuclear plant. www3.nhk.or.jp uups, we know it better, don't we ?
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:25:14 PM

  • @Edano There were questions about some of those meter readings early and often, going all the way back into the Reuters blog. I don't think it's conspiratorialist to suggest that TEPCO is less than straight with their facts. Mostly it's been lies of omission. Given liability issues, admitting plutonium contamination comes slowly.
    by radioguy 4/24/2011 5:25:20 PM

  • @Nancy I've been looking for that map. Starting to think it's not out yet.
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 5:26:11 PM

  • As I recall, Jo was saying early on that it seemed to make sense except for those readings.
    by radioguy 4/24/2011 5:28:27 PM

  • @jim should I send docs to you I have not got upload have I???
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 5:28:49 PM

  • @radioguy : looking at the reactor ruin, i have always doubted that containment is still in place. but the pressure was more or less okay until march 21.
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:29:02 PM

  • @radioguy yes, this has been the enigma. The containment pressure readings on #3. We need another bit of information of some kind to get an answer
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:32:30 PM

  • Landslide, flood, aftershock warnings in Tohoku

    Japanese weather officials are warning of the possibility of landslides and flooding in disaster-affected areas caused by bad weather through Monday.

    The Meteorological Agency says rain and wind has grown stronger in northeastern and eastern Japan since Saturday.

    The strong rain and wind passed their peak by Sunday morning. But cold air will move in over the affected areas through Monday and may cause heavy rain, lightning, and gusts of wind.

    The agency is warning of possible landslides, flooding in low-lying areas, and overflowing rivers as the ground has lost strength or sagged due to aftershocks.

    The agency is also cautioning about earthquakes in a wide area as strong tremors continue even outside areas hit by aftershocks.

    Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:57 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp plus video
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:32:33 PM

  • @elainekirk Just upload to the appropriate folder or into yours and I can file it.
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 5:34:33 PM

  • @Edano not totally unbelievable. They had malfunctioning equipment and still do due to the damage. It could be just wrong readings caused by a failing sensor. It could be someone didn't want to admit containment was lost and finally put in honest numbers on the 20th. TEPCO has a track record of inaccurate data some probably just the situation that is such a mess and some may be concern about admitting certain things initially. This happens with US companies all the time if they have a bad situation so it isnt purely a TEPCO fault.
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:35:30 PM

  • Going to go get some yard work done now that the sun is out! be back in a few hours.
    by Nancy 4/24/2011 5:36:18 PM

  • @Nancy That's good, I should do the same.
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 5:37:11 PM

  • @Nancy : but remember we had quite good information the first days, much better than today.
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:37:40 PM

  • @Nancy : but remember we had quite good information the first days, much better than today.
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:38:26 PM

  • 24.04.2011 18:45:21 UTC 5.0 Asia Japan Sakihama hisz.rsoe.hu not reported by USGS.
    by Edano 4/24/2011 5:47:00 PM

  • @jim are you here
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 6:03:05 PM

  • Reactors, residents and risk very interesting www.nature.com
    by Edano 4/24/2011 6:03:40 PM

  • There is leaked fuel in #4 sfp and leakages in o6 +~ 08 another '10 left in situ due to high radiation
    docs.google.com
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 6:08:10 PM

  • @elainekirk sorta
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 6:28:01 PM

  • what is "leaked foreign fuel" ?
    by Edano 4/24/2011 6:32:53 PM

  • @jim will you look other wall are those translations worth saving
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 6:37:35 PM

  • @elainekirk k
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 6:37:52 PM

  • @jim thanks back in 5
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 6:42:03 PM

  • @Edano - very interesting Nature article - thanks. @elainekirk - I can't make any sense of the 7.08 google docs content!
    by hudebnik 4/24/2011 6:47:34 PM

  • @elainekirk Interesting find. That doc looks like a survey of two fuel leaks which have occurred in the Unit 4 SFP, one discovered in 2006 and the other in 2008, to fuel rods which have been sitting in the pool since 2004. At least that's my basic understanding.
    by es 4/24/2011 6:51:32 PM

  • @es I could kiss you I was thinking I was on a loser what about this one docs.google.com
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 6:52:36 PM

  • @elainekirk I re-translated that and put it in.
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 7:01:05 PM

  • @jim can you translate them better than google ? brilliant if so did you get the sfp and the walls floors docs?
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 7:02:47 PM

  • @jim this is the link to
    Interim Report of the seismic safety evaluation and 福島第二原子力発電所 Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (revised) for submission to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency Ministry of Economy and partially revised and modified version
    www.tepco.co.jp
    I am getting gobbledegook but if you have better translator them hopefully...
    by elainekirk 4/24/2011 7:04:41 PM

  • @elainekirk Whee :) That one sounds sloppy. Seems to me they're trying to explain the source of some unusually high contamination from radioactive material. I can't make much of any details - mentions sheets, desalination equipment and exhaust filters as potential problem areas. Maybe Nancy or fitter could make some sense of the dodgy goings on in there?
    by es 4/24/2011 7:05:04 PM

  • @elainekirk hehe, no, I just ran it again.
    by Jim Carver 4/24/2011 7:05:47 PM

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