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  • This is tha Atomic Istitute for Standards and Technology website, which has rad monitoring (but I don't know where location is in Japan...) www.aist.go.jp
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:25:29 PM

  • @marie rich <Place of Monitoring> AIST Tsukuba Central 1, Higashi 1-1, Tsukuba, Ibaraki Prefecture
    by talisker 4/30/2011 5:26:41 PM

  • I'm on a quest to find more obscure sites. Maybe they'll prove useful
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:26:52 PM

  • TY, Tal, Ibaraki is good
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:27:30 PM

  • @marie rich no need to thank me, it says it on top:)
    by talisker 4/30/2011 5:28:16 PM

  • Well, info is danged hard to come by, so 'creeping along' is the operative phrase. How 'bout you?
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:30:14 PM

  • I went to gym and worked out and felt pretty dang weak.. had to take some meds for first time yesterday after doc appointment.. .today is sunny,,, alitt|le windy but very nice.. I think I will go to a movie.. the MADEA one
    by dean 4/30/2011 5:33:49 PM

  • latr,gatr
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:38:45 PM

  • @elainekirk Idk, I can't follow it. Maybe dean..? Got a site that is a bonanza for geologists among us; active fault and earthquake research center: unit.aist.go.jp
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:47:11 PM

  • @marie rich perfect timing on that link, just logged on again. ty will go look at it. Sorry to hear your laid up, it's never fun. Should I put more fun pictures up at the other place for you to look at?
    by Debra Beckham 4/30/2011 5:48:37 PM

  • @Debra Beckham OOOOWWW, It hurts when I laugh! Jk lol
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:49:39 PM

  • by elainekirk 4/30/2011 5:51:34 PM

  • @marie I looked at number 6 and they have a pdf on junk found in spent fuel but my comp just won't display it properly
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 5:55:30 PM

  • <Overview> (事象の発生状況) (The occurrence of events) ・ 平成 22 年 11 月1日、定期検査中の6号機の使用済燃料プールのキャスク Sun, November 01 - 31, 2010 casks of spent fuel pool at Unit 6 in the periodic inspection 置き場において、プール底部にボルト1本とゴム状の板1枚を発見し、回 In the yard, we found a piece of rubber-like plates and bolts to the bottom of a pool of times 収しました。 To yield. ・ その後、11 月 17 日、同キャスク置き場のプール底部にワッシャー1個を - Then, on November 17, a single cask washer the same place at the bottom of the pool 発見し、回収しました。 Found, recovered. (今後の対応) (For future) ・ ワッシャーが混入した原因を調査します。 - Investigate the cause of the contamination of the washer. ・ 引き続き、異物混入防止対策を徹底してまいります。 - Still hope to prevent foreign matter thoroughly. (安全性、外部への影響) (Safety, impact on the outside) ・ 確認されたワッシャーによる使用済燃料等への影響はないものと考えて Effects from the spent fuel and is confirmed by the washers do not believe おります。 We. ・ 外部への放射能の影響はありません。 Effects of radiation on the outside. (公表区分) (Category published) ・ 本事象は公表区分Ⅲ(信頼性向上のために公表する事象)としてお知 * This event category Ⅲ published (publish events to improve reliability) as the Notice らせするものです。 This is what they make. 詳細は以下のとおりです。 Details are as follows. 1. 1. 事象の発生状況 Occurrence of an event 平成 22 年 11 月1日午後2時 20 分頃、定期検査で停止中の6号機の使用済燃 Minutes around 20:02 pm, November 01, 2010, spent fuel stops at No. 6 in the periodic inspection 料プールにおいて、次回定期検査の準備作業のため、当社社員が水中カメラで The fee pool for the preparation of the next periodic inspection, underwater cameras in our employees キャスク Cask * * 置き場周辺を確認していたところ、キャスク置き場の底にボルト1 I had to check around the yard, one yard bolt in the bottom of cask 本および板状の異物らしきもの1枚を発見しました。 異物Rashiki found one of those books and plate. 当日午後4時 40 分までに、発見したボルト等は掴み治具で回収しました。 40 min at 4 pm on the day before, recovered bolts were discovered in the grip fixture. 回 Times 収したものは、ボルト1本(直径約 1.6cm、長さ約4cm)、ゴム状の板1枚(縦 Was collected, the one bolt (diameter of about 1.6cm, a length of about 4cm), 1 rubber-like plate (length 約 10cm、横約8cm、厚さ約 0.8cm)であることを確認しました。 About 10cm, side about 8cm, thickness of about 0.8cm) confirmed that. ( 平成 22 年 11 月2日お知らせ済み・公表区分Ⅲ) ( November 31, 2010, two days previously published classification Ⅲ News) その後、キャスク置き場の底に溜まっていたクラッド(鉄さび等の金属不純 Then place the bottom of the cladding had accumulated casks (of metal impurities such as iron rust 物)を吸引清掃した後、あらためて水中カメラでキャスク置き場周辺を確認し Ones) after suction cleaning, check around the yard again cask underwater camera ていたところ、11 月 17 日午前 10 時 50 分頃、協力企業作業員がキャスク置き I Teita, about 50 minutes at 10 am on Nov. 17, workers put subcontractors cask 場の底にワッシャー1個を発見しました。 I found one place in the bottom of washer. 同日午後2時 15 分に、発見したワッシャー1個(直径約 2.6cm、厚さ約 0.4cm) 2:15 pm on that day, found one washer (diameter of about 2.6cm, the thickness of about 0.4cm) を回収しました。 Were collected. また、水中カメラによる確認の結果、当該キャスク置き場内に他の異物はあ As a result of verification underwater camera, the other material in the yard there cask りませんでした。 Rimasen did.
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    2. 2. 今後の対応 Future response 今後、ボルト、ゴム状の板およびワッシャーが混入した原因を調査します。 Future, bolts, washers investigate the cause of the contamination and the rubber-like plates. 引き続き、異物混入防止対策を徹底してまいります。 Subsequently, we will thoroughly prevent contamination. 3. 3. 安全性、外部への影響 Safety impact of external キャスク置き場は使用済燃料プール内の区画されたスペースになっており、 Cask yard space has become a spent fuel pool compartment, 確認されたワッシャー等が移動する可能性がないことから、使用済燃料等への Since there is no possibility to move the washer and confirmed the spent fuel etc. 影響はないものと考えています。 I think no effect. また、外部への放射能の影響はありません。 The effect of radiation on the outside. 以 上 And over * キャスク * Cask 使用済燃料等を運び出すための容器。 Containers for spent fuel and to carry out.
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    気水分離器等 Steam-water separator, etc. 仮置ピット Pitt temporary position プール深さ 約 12m Depth of approximately 12m pool 使用済燃料プール Spent fuel pool 原子炉上部 Reactor top 原子炉建屋6階平面図 6 reactor building floor plan ワッシャー Washer 回収されたワッシャー Washer was recovered ワッシャー:1個(直径:約 2.6 ㎝,厚さ:約 0.4 ㎝) Washer: 1 (diameter: about 2.6 cm, thickness: about 0.4 cm) 厚さ Thickness 直径 Diameter 6号機 使用済燃料プールのキャスク置き場内において回収された異物 Foreign body was recovered in a cask of spent fuel pool in the yard No. 6
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:59:04 PM

  • yikes- never mind
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 5:59:31 PM

  • How did a rubber sheet get in there !!
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:03:51 PM

  • I think they mean a rubber gasket
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:04:34 PM

  • by es edited by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:08:10 PM

  • @fitter It's from elaine's query below (google 1-6, 6th down). It's about junk found in unit 6's fuel pool; A rubber 'sheet' (gasket) and some metal washers.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:17:18 PM

  • www.toxipedia.org a little off japan, was reading this artilce do not know why we are even worring about global warming..... this artile if true should scare the crap out of us in the us
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:17:32 PM

  • @fitter it is telling her what junk they found in the spent fuel. This is the original for #4 www.tepco.co.jp and translation for #4 translate.google.com can you cover 4 please
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:18:10 PM

  • @marie rich DO THEY HAVE FILM OF SIX OR WERE THEY IN THERE????
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:18:21 PM

  • Maybe a computer expert can find this Korean rad. monitoring station. No luck here. www.kaeri.re.kr:8080
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:19:13 PM

  • @fitter says underwater cameras
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:20:02 PM

  • does it show on your screen were itmakes ant sence, mine just has double print and big space... kinda like the way they talk
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:20:56 PM

  • @marie rich reading between the lines (literly) if I could understand it, with the bolt diamiter...and gasket info etc.. some of it might be a clue to what parts they are finding.. i am pretty sure i know were the nub 3 expansion tank is and they won't be running water through it any time soon.....
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:23:30 PM

  • Near as I can understand, they did an inspection of #6 (in 2010) and found a bolt, washer, rubber gasket and iron particles (rust). cleaned it up with suction, checked again w/ camera. It's listed as a category three event, so it must have generated a report somewhere.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:24:38 PM

  • @elainekirk found the article on the river contamination when i goggles "waste storage container" that was (more than likely) the post you sent me .... how they transport the contaimenated components from the reactor buildings to Where ever they send it,,, and i hope its not the river lijke the article i posted... be glad you aren't in the US
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:26:49 PM

  • @marie rich the more i read the less i like NPP
    by fitter 4/30/2011 6:27:50 PM

  • French System For Cleaning Fukushima Water Blamed For Leukemia, Polluted Beaches In Europe blogs.forbes.com
    by Debra Beckham 4/30/2011 6:33:34 PM

  • @marie that will be an ines report wont it I think jnes do them .Here we go incidence reports for Daiichi www2.jnes.go.jp
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:34:21 PM

  • Physicians for Social Responsibility Press Conference 4/26/11

    by Debra Beckham 4/30/2011 6:34:41 PM

  • Hey, a pretty informative article from World Nuclear Org. do you want link, or whole aricl;e posted?
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:34:53 PM

  • Put the link and a snippet @marie Just sending your mox link to jim as you said that
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:36:44 PM

  • okay:Unit 1 remains the most difficult of the three. Core damage estimated at 70% may be inhibiting the flow of coolant water, leading to higher temperatures and pressures.



    A test will be conducted tomorrow at unit 1 to help determine the true parameters of the reactor system, sensors for some of which may have been damaged during the accident sequence. Tepco will temporarily raise the speed of water injection from 6.1 to 14 cubic metres per hour and observe changes in reactor water levels, pressure and temperature as well as primary containment vessel pressure.
    www.world-nuclear-news.org
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:38:21 PM

  • Daated 27Apr.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:38:40 PM

  • @marie so they have tried that by now then they are running out of options arent they?
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:39:53 PM

  • Yes, so it seems. Article also refers to double planned amt. injected of nitrogen. That, coupled with deflating pressure in the c/v seems to strongly indicate a leak in the c/v.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:41:31 PM

  • Irony here: The more water and nitrogen they pump into #1, the more the pressure opens leak openings in the c/v.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:43:22 PM

  • sorry-almost as unintelligible as xlations! I mean it causes leaks to open wider.
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:45:00 PM

  • So, they did that test, and IIRC, temp and pressure readings plummeted.Anybody want to speculate on what that says about reliability of instrumentation?
    by marie rich 4/30/2011 6:50:04 PM

  • @marie rich According to the data available at IAEA website the pressure in the CV has been consistently rising with the nitrogen injection suggesting the opposite.
    by Pedro Jesus 4/30/2011 6:50:21 PM

  • @Peter Melzer Robert Baker sounds like a government yes man. Scientists who have looked at the apparently "healthy ecosystems" around nuclear sites have found worrying genetic changes in healthy animals, especially amphibians. I will try to find the link again
    by cat 4/30/2011 6:50:29 PM

  • @Peter Melzer I think Robert Baker is completely wrong when he says that there was no elevated risk to children from Chernyobil, but that is not what locals say. There were a large number of disabled children born, many dumped in orphanages. The following is a Reuters article posted on weather net. www.theweathernetwork.com Elena Lyapko, head nurse at the privately-funded children's asylum, has been working with the disabled children for eight years. She herself was hurt by the Chernobyl accident, and still deals with radiation-induced illnesses. She blamed the afteraffects of Chernobyl for the health problems her patients suffer.
    “You look at these children and your heart just bleeds that this never had to happen. There are so many deformed children of course. So many. I think that it could have been avoided (so that there would be) fewer. I don't even know how to say it correctly. There are just so many sick children. I think that it's an afteraffect of Chernobyl,“ Lyapko said.
    Valentin Chernyakevich, the Belarus director of Chernobyl Children's Project International who funds the asylum Lyapko works at, insisted that the dangers of Chernobyl's radioactive legacy had not lessened with time. He blamed Belarussian authorities for ignoring the issue.
    “No one talks about this problem, it's hasn't gone away. It's exactly the same as it was 25 years ago because the repercussions of radiation don't go away in one day. And now the repercussions are going on to the next generation - to the children of those people who were affected 25 years ago. And this problem remains just as critical today as it was (25 years ago),“ Chernyakevich said.
    by cat 4/30/2011 6:50:31 PM

  • sorry to pedro and cat I stepped away and missed your posts. Have you got pedro's response @marie?
    by elainekirk 4/30/2011 6:51:02 PM

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