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@LM thanks :)by anon 5/12/2011 1:22:08 AM
@Debra Beckham I wonder if the TBS cam is up higher but closer than the TEPCO still cam? That could explain why it is socked in.by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:23:01 AM
Off to work. Be back soon.by bo 5/12/2011 1:24:06 AM
@bo see you laterby elainekirk 5/12/2011 1:24:37 AM
@Debra Beckham I agree about the cloud. The TBS stream's often been foggy like this first thing in the morning - the low cloud lifts off the mountainside eventually to give a better view of the smokey NPP down below.by es 5/12/2011 1:24:49 AM- @bo see you after a bit.by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:25:44 AM
@anon Most welcome! @all It was mentioned that the live feed was a mountain cam..if that's the case it's probably above the low-lying cloud layer. We might be out of luck today.by LM 5/12/2011 1:27:20 AM
@Nancy I didn't get a lot of screen shots this morning, but the ones i did get are up here s1097.photobucket.comby Debra Beckham 5/12/2011 1:29:31 AM- @Debra Beckham will check them out. I grabbed a few and put them online here www.houseoffoust.comby Nancy 5/12/2011 1:31:35 AM
- 4.8 EQ off Fukushima coast...2 hours ago. USGS is taking a ridiculous amount of time to post! earthquake.usgs.govby LM 5/12/2011 1:33:00 AM
- @LM and we can't see on the cam...by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:34:46 AM
- @Nancy I've become dependent on that little sucker. I'm suffering from withdrawal.by LM 5/12/2011 1:35:49 AM
- I think the TBS cam is clouds, I looked at it again and could see it fluctuate like clouds going past. Hopefully it burns off later today.by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:36:00 AM
- @LM LOL, watch it too much you will start seeing things. :-)by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:36:26 AM
- It's sad when the highlight of your day might be a good cam view!by LM 5/12/2011 1:40:01 AM
- @LM yep, pretty sad. :-) I'm just glad when we get a good view that things are still where they were before.by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:44:30 AM
- Agreed! Some straight talk from Tepco might be nice too, but then I'd be wishing for miracles.by LM 5/12/2011 1:46:15 AM
- @LM news always seems to be quietly leaked out to the press, or one outlet then the others pick up on it. Like the leaks at 1 that were found out tonight.by Nancy 5/12/2011 1:48:48 AM
- g'night allby elainekirk 5/12/2011 1:58:01 AM
back for more actionby dean 5/12/2011 1:58:32 AM- @dean while you were gone (I think you were gone already when this came out) Reactor 1 isn't holding water at all ex-skf.blogspot.comby Nancy 5/12/2011 2:01:42 AM
- night Elaine. :-)by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:01:54 AM
- Night Elaine!by LM 5/12/2011 2:03:04 AM
- ty Nancy.. what about the fireball you were talking about on the linkby dean 5/12/2011 2:03:10 AM
- @Nancy So the leak implies that #1 is dry?by LM 5/12/2011 2:05:34 AM
- @dean Deb has a pic that is either a fireball or a really dense ball of steam that caught some light. It was what was spotted by a few people before the smoke and steam show today.by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:06:26 AM
- interesting information nancy, makes me wonder if what they did really did anything to give totally accurate information... the pressure sensor taps on the RPV could be compromised.. so I really wonder... they would have had to check the calibration/replaced the transmitter, then assume that the signal from the impulse line is good ... just a note..by dean 5/12/2011 2:07:32 AM
- @LM It sounded like water was less than 4m above the rods and containment they didn't say other than low. They have been trying to flood both for a while.by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:07:50 AM
- out of 3? Nancyby dean 5/12/2011 2:08:00 AM
- we've come to know that what they say.. has to be backed up by other checks and not just jumped to conclusions based on what they think are good instruments ...by dean 5/12/2011 2:08:58 AM
- @dean Yes out of 3. On the sensors on 1. I wondered that also. They can't get into wherever the end of it is, so how could they be sure it was working right?by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:09:19 AM
- So what is plan "D" on #1?by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:09:36 AM
- Thanks Nancy. That explains their urgency with 1 which makes me think they knew these issues all along and just wanted it to seem like they were accomplishing something.by LM 5/12/2011 2:11:33 AM
- correct nancy lots of level systems are not just proportional to pressure head.. they have reference legs that have to be full of water etc.. so.. I just wonder.. I'm sure they couldn't get to the impulse lines upstream of the level transmitters.. and,,, those transmitters would be in the basement somewhere.. so they must havereceived healthy doses..by dean 5/12/2011 2:11:36 AM
- @Dean, the shots Deb posted are the after shots of what happened this morning. Notice #3 is smoking massively at the center bottom of the building and not at the top as it normally does when it emits steam.by wtm 5/12/2011 2:13:20 AM
- Plan "D" on one,,, well if the RPV has been breeched by the fuel it means it's sitting on the concrete hopefully dispersed some and hopefully cooling.. probably some fuel in the RPV left.. just a theory, if you look at that one doc we had Nancy it shows how quickly things heat up in early moments of the incidentsby dean 5/12/2011 2:13:48 AM
- you know Nancy.. on that one video of the 3 SFP, did you notice the thin walls when then camera was going back and forth.. hardly any concrete but there was the stainless steel wall and in that one spot it was wrinkled,,, that is thick concrete on the outside of that steel shell.. more so on the bottom but I would like to see the video of the canal now.. .by dean 5/12/2011 2:15:32 AM
- Now the million dollar question where is all that water running off to. :-)by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:18:29 AM
@all For something a little more inflamitory: [Exposé] Areva at the heart of Fukushima’s explosive reactor owni.eu (supporting docs in this one include an export liscense)by smoss 5/12/2011 2:22:05 AM
Hi all. Esconced in beautiful downtown Hiroshima and back on boardby bo 5/12/2011 2:22:41 AM- Are the trenches connected? This might explain it...out to sea. Tepco: Highly radioactive Water Flowed out to sea. www3.nhk.or.jpby LM 5/12/2011 2:22:41 AM
Hi all. Looks like reactors are going haywire. I seriously worry about the ground water there. the logic of plugging the hole where you see the water coming out just doen't make sense to me, as a layman.by carabnr 5/12/2011 2:26:10 AM- @bo Hi bo!by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:26:49 AM
- Hi Bo! How far is your office from the Peace Park?by LM 5/12/2011 2:27:37 AM
- @carabnr I have yet to hear of a really detailed water management plan. They were looking at plugging up a building to use as a holding tank. Have not heard more about that one. They were moving water around and some into temp holding tanks. But I don't know if they have a grasp of where water is running off to.by Nancy 5/12/2011 2:27:55 AM
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