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Nancy leaksfree.comby Tenzing 5/14/2011 2:44:02 PM
@Tenzing - I saw that smoke too -it was in front of the steam also emanating from 3by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:46:25 PM
Tenzing,, the scary thing to me about that video in how the concrete outside the stainless liner has disintegrated ,,, look how it is at the very first, and the ledge of it all wrinkled... another thing is that it seems to lack the extensive "thermals" coming off the fuel...by dean 5/14/2011 2:46:25 PM
What were the rads that cam was getting in the steam?by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 2:47:44 PM- first shot is at about 7 seconds into it,,, the wrinkled steel is about at 1;57by dean 5/14/2011 2:49:39 PM
- @dean good morn all, did you get my info that i sent, sorry my computor won't open tabs to post links... hope it made sense... trying to get to the shuttle launchby fitter edited by Markfm 5/14/2011 2:53:27 PM
- I wonder where the water is going? The seawater contamination does not seem to be too bad. atmc.jpby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 2:54:52 PM
- yes and ty fitterby dean 5/14/2011 2:55:23 PM
- Dean, are you saying the object at 1:57 is part of the stainless steel liner? if it is we are in very big trouble, this would be beyond Nuclear Accident or Disaster considering the type of fuel (MOX) in R3 SPFby Tenzing 5/14/2011 2:56:16 PM
- it sure looks like it to me.. every one take a look at around those times.. seems like you can look down the side of damaged concreteby dean 5/14/2011 2:57:01 PM
Ralph Unger, its seeping into the ground water (IMHO) the earth has continued to crack/open up in several locations since March 11 2011 earthquake. I think its called liquefaction?
by Tenzing 5/14/2011 3:01:10 PM- THE SCIENCE BEHIND JAPAN‘S INCREDIBLE ’LIQUEFACTION’ VIDEOS www.theblaze.comby Tenzing 5/14/2011 3:02:18 PM
- I had read about this and seen building sunk into the ground, but this video is the first I saw that showed it happening.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:02:25 PM
- My GF thought it was water mains breaking or something. :-)by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:03:08 PM
- all,,,, I must go for awhile.. it's sure nice seeing every one.. be back laterby dean 5/14/2011 3:07:42 PM
Someone found out what kind of bedrock the reactor footers were built on, and it was a kind of shale. If you've ever handled shale, you must be aware of how brittle it is. A huge EQ would, imo, almost certainly 'frack' it up.by marie rich 5/14/2011 3:08:36 PM- @dean bye, guyby marie rich 5/14/2011 3:09:10 PM
- TY for the cool link Tenzing.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:15:08 PM
- U.N. forum takes up nuke accidents "We are not competent to deal with (the) technology. . . . We don't know enough about it, and we don't have it under control," journalist and author Jonathan Schell said in a recent interview." search.japantimes.co.jpby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:25:02 PM
- Fukushima village on way to becoming ghost town "We've heard five, maybe 10 years, but some say that's far too optimistic," he said, crying. "Maybe I'll be able to come home to die." search.japantimes.co.jpby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:28:07 PM
ProPublica Investigative Report:
NRC Waives Enforcement of Fire Rules at Nuclear Plants: www.propublica.orgby bo 5/14/2011 3:29:46 PM
And a follow up editor's note regarding the ProPublica story: www.propublica.orgby bo 5/14/2011 3:31:12 PM- Magnitude mb 4.7
Region NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Date time 2011-05-14 15:01:46.0 UTC
Location 37.61 N ; 141.16 E
Depth 30 km
Distances 63 km E Fukushima (pop 294,237 ; local time 00:01:46.0 2011-05-15)
18 km E Haramachi (pop 47,433 ; local time 00:01:46.0 2011-05-15) www.emsc-csem.org
by UKVal 5/14/2011 3:33:30 PM - @Bo So I can tell the officer it was OK that I was doing 100 mph in a 25 mph zone as I was only doing it for a short time? LOL.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:34:07 PM
- Well, planning to do it for only a short time....by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:34:49 PM
- @Ralph Unger you were only trying to get to the place where you didn't have to speed, and get there as fast as you canby bo 5/14/2011 3:35:57 PM
- Yeah! and that s my story and I am sticking to it! :-)by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:36:34 PM
if we can't come together over Fukushima, what will it take . . . this is the technical aspect of Human News ;)
by Tenzing 5/14/2011 3:39:57 PM- Dean, what data are you using for the 300 degrees? I think that might be nozzle pressure.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:42:27 PM
- If it is bronze phan-whatever.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:43:24 PM
- Or is it Fahrenheit?by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:44:36 PM
- The other day I read about 316 C temps on the third sensor, but they only have two temperature sensors, it turned out, to the best of my knowledge, that the third reading was actually water pressure for the injection nozzle for the reactor.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:49:36 PM
Just passing through - @Ralph visit www.tepco.co.jp Tepco page & use google to translate - it is quite specific about which are temps and which pressures. As far as I know Japan only uses Celcius not Fahrenheit - @bo?by hudebnik 5/14/2011 3:50:06 PM- Or liters per min.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:50:30 PM
- Mind you I wouldn't be surprised to find Tepco measiring temperatures in MPa and pressures in degC!by hudebnik 5/14/2011 3:51:03 PM
- @hudebnik that is correct. Only celsius here.by bo 5/14/2011 3:51:22 PM
- @Ralph - "Plant temperature data pdf ( Unit 1 / Unit 2 / Unit 3 / Unit 5.6)" - can't be much more specific than that.by hudebnik 5/14/2011 3:52:25 PM
The cesium-137 soil concentration in an area in Tokyo has been measured at 77,000 Bq/m^2. (Japanese) onihutari.blog60.fc2.com To put this in context, the Chernobyl cesium contamination map on page 5 of www.nirs.org would now have Tokyo well into the shaded area of contamination in Belarus. Fukushima City at 500,000 Bq/m^2 is nearing the amount at the mandatory Chernobyl evacuation zone. Keep in mind that also Cesium-134 contamination is occurring at almost twice the rate of Chernobyl, and that Cs-134 is about 2.5 times as toxic as Cs-137.by Bobby1 5/14/2011 3:53:00 PM- Do you know what all the translations actually mean?by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:53:13 PM
- 200 Bq is bad in food and food takes up one tenth of the radiation in the soil, that is very bad news.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:54:19 PM
- Radiation on the outside is not so bad, on the inside.. very bad.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:55:09 PM
- @Ralph - please visit the wiki page fukushimafaq.wikispaces.com pinned above - all will be revealed.by hudebnik 5/14/2011 3:56:47 PM
- Aruggh! Do not trust translations of Japanese documents. Ty Hud checking it now.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:57:23 PM
- @Bobby1 if that's the Cs level in Tokyo that is not good.by hudebnik 5/14/2011 3:57:32 PM
@hudebnik And it continues, falling like snow. How much longer will this be happening? www.bfs.de
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