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Hud, that refers back to this. :-)by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 3:59:10 PM- Radiation readings from Tokyo, not that this is the only danger, but I like to see the levels. www.denphone.comby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:01:45 PM
@Ralph - it refers back to this because I set the page up ;)by hudebnik 5/14/2011 4:02:37 PM- Nice page! Checking it out.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:05:33 PM
- Add strontium maybe, thats the bone breaker.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:06:19 PM
Hi I have condensed the pins a little but none have been deleted-we were just running out of screen room :)by elainekirk 5/14/2011 4:17:12 PM- TEPCO also admits its possibility of melt down of reactor 2 and 3 at Fukushima power plant reported by Yomiuri on line. - via twitterby elainekirk 5/14/2011 4:20:37 PM
- Hud radiation around site, link this, if it is not already on your site. www.mext.go.jpby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:21:16 PM
- @all - looks as if the faqwiki site could do with a 'radiation readings' page. Any volunteers? I'm afraid that I'm now out of time until probably Monday.by hudebnik 5/14/2011 4:24:52 PM
- @Hud ya don't want to get me started about the odd radiation readings. :-) Some are impossible.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:26:41 PM
- That means that the soils readings do not match up with the readings of the environment.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:27:53 PM
@Ralph Unger At Chernobyl, cesium penetrated only 2 cm into the soil. If you dug a cube of soil, 98% wouldn't have any cesium in it.by Bobby1 5/14/2011 4:36:43 PM- 2 Cm3 would be the way to measure it.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:38:47 PM
- Which for some reason, they cannot do LOL. 1 cm3 would be better.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:39:48 PM
- @Ralph Unger Maybe multiplying by 50 would give you the right answer.by Bobby1 5/14/2011 4:41:01 PM
- Nope, as you mentioned, the surface might be much worse then the sub-surface.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:43:28 PM
- Even I-131 measurements seem to be going up again around the plant.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:45:54 PM
- Not by much, but they should be only going down as it decays.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:46:38 PM
- 【2-1】（36kmNorth/West）Soma county Iitate village Yagisawa on 5/8/2011 I-131=770 Cs-134=4,600 Cs-137= 5,400 Te-129=1,900 vs on 5/9/2011 i-131=1,300 Cs-134=10,000 Cs-137=13,000 Te-129=4,500by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:54:12 PM
- @Ralph Unger And Te-129 and Te-129m is being detected where is was non-detected before. Increasing fission.by Bobby1 5/14/2011 4:54:48 PM
- I don't know, it was not tested for until recently. Short half life though, 33 days so that is not a good sign.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 4:59:23 PM
Morning all! Slept in...had coffee. Is there any new info out there? I noticed a spike in gammas here in San Diego for yesterday.. www.epa.govby LM 5/14/2011 4:59:40 PM- @LM New cloud moving into the west coast. Look at the area west of Oregon. www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov Old cloud hanging around the midwest.by Bobby1 5/14/2011 5:03:24 PM
- I think it is two years for the bad water to reach our west coast.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:04:05 PM
- @all I wonder if the spike we're seeing here in CA has anything to do with the event that took place last weekend? I think the timing is right.by LM 5/14/2011 5:10:06 PM
- I finally broke down and picked an avatar...I guess I was hoping this crisis would've ended much more quickly and I wouldn't have to get attached. Too late now!by LM 5/14/2011 5:11:41 PM
@LM : it is very beautiful, dear.by Edano 5/14/2011 5:15:13 PM- @edano Thank you!
love your avatarby LM edited by elainekirk 5/14/2011 5:15:58 PM 
@Ralph Unger - two years eh? How do you figure?by Lethbridgean 5/14/2011 5:19:04 PM- Some pacific current study I read.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:19:36 PM
- @Lethbridgean i agree to that 2 years north pacific current west to east.by Edano 5/14/2011 5:20:08 PM
- That worries me a lot more then the dust does.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:22:44 PM
- @Ralph Unger I heard the same thing. I think the IAEA quietly released information citing that it would be 1-2 years until West Coast US saw contaminated water.by LM 5/14/2011 5:23:21 PM
- @Ralph Unger most particles will not move so fast or at all.by Edano 5/14/2011 5:23:44 PM
- I can look it up.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:24:20 PM
- Did you see my links to the fores in Texas? things do not disperse as much as we might like to think. earthobservatory.nasa.gov
by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:26:03 PM - Definitely a concern..particularly for those who consume fish. enenews.comby LM 5/14/2011 5:27:46 PM
- I'll eat Texas beef sushi for the next few years.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:28:40 PM
- Tartare sushi!by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:30:38 PM
- Isn't Alaska part of the United States? I don't think all there fishing happens in the Artic ocean now does it??by Lethbridgean 5/14/2011 5:32:33 PM
- Gimme a sec to see the currents.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:33:29 PM
- @Ralph Unger : it is called "north pacific gyre"by Edano 5/14/2011 5:34:09 PM
- by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:34:55 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before -it's the comments of Tanaka - a reactor designer for Daichii who 'says the reactor pressure vessel inside the No. 4 reactor was damaged at a Babcock-Hitachi foundry in Kure, Hiroshima Prefecture, during the last step of a manufacturing process that took two and a half years and cost millions of dollars, Japan Today reported. If the mistake had been discovered, the company might have been bankrupted, Tananka said'. Fortunate then it wasn't in operation at the time of the Quake! bellona.org
The origin of the flaw
Inside a blast furnace the size of a small airplane hanger, the reactor pressure vessel was being treated one last time to remove welding stress, according to Tanaka’s recounting. The cylinder, 20 meters tall and 5.8 meters in diameter, was heated to more than 600 degrees, a temperature that softens metal.
Braces that were to have been placed inside during the blasting were either forgotten or fell over when the cylinder was wheeled into the furnace. After the vessel cooled, its walls were warped, Tanaka said.by UKVal 5/14/2011 5:44:14 PM- I think GE had an update about that. "Torus: Additional ring girder reinforcement, Miter joint support saddles and saddle
extension plates, Additional ring-girder-to-torus weld, Torus Temperature monitoring
instrumentation, Torus tie-downs, Dynamic restraint snubbers" www.nei.orgby Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 5:46:31 PM
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