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Right click on C drive and clean up.by Ralph Unger 5/14/2011 6:18:58 PM
@UKVal That definitely could be the case. It just seems to me that the right roof section has separated from the right wall and is hanging down. I might just be seeing things!by LM 5/14/2011 6:19:27 PM
i always say it's not leaning. it is just the upper deck that makes the illusion.by Edano 5/14/2011 6:22:35 PM
@LM - you're not seeing things -I'm pretty sure it has separated from the wall at the sw corner - but it's been like that for a while. The qu is whether it's sagging more...by UKVal 5/14/2011 6:22:38 PM- It seems more pronounced today, but you're right..it might just be the lighting. I guess time will tell.by LM 5/14/2011 6:24:23 PM
- @Edano -see Nancy's work on 4 - pinned aboveby UKVal 5/14/2011 6:24:51 PM
- @UKVal : still nonsense.by Edano 5/14/2011 6:27:14 PM
- @edano Even Tepco acknowledges the lean...that's why they're trying to shore it up.by LM 5/14/2011 6:28:50 PM
- @Edano 'Nobody's input should be belittled'by UKVal 5/14/2011 6:29:44 PM
- @LM : you mean: "Arnie Gunderson at Fairewinds is now citing that he has confirmation from TEPCO that the building is collapsing." ? i do not doubt that it is collapsing, but it does not lean. and i do not want to belittle anything - sorry if necessary. it is just - not true.by Edano 5/14/2011 6:32:17 PM
- @Edano - we can't see the rest of the building, but I doubt it all leans. Guess we agree that it looks bad whether it's leaning, buckled or collapsing!by UKVal 5/14/2011 6:39:40 PM
- @edano I'm glad you know that for sure. Looking at the picturesby LM 5/14/2011 6:40:30 PM
I think @ukval has settled the point nicely leaning/collapsing/buckled are all polite ways of saying it is *&^^**(((by elainekirk 5/14/2011 6:41:57 PM- @edano I'm glad you know that definitively. I admit that the only thing I do know for sure is that Fukushima is a mess.by LM 5/14/2011 6:42:02 PM
- @elainekirk -quite!!by UKVal 5/14/2011 6:42:41 PM
- 1st light on the tippycamby UKVal 5/14/2011 6:43:53 PM
- IAEA confirms...To protect against potential damage as a result of future earthquakes, TEPCO started work on 9 May to install a supporting structure for the floor of the spent fuel pool of Unit 4. www.iaea.orgby LM 5/14/2011 6:51:12 PM
Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Photos 15: cryptome.org
Note on this Cryptome page reads: "The following 12 photos are excerpted and enlarged from 70 posted to Flickr on May 10, 2011 by "xtcbz." Date of the photos unknown. www.flickr.com "by es 5/14/2011 6:54:25 PM- @LM -we do know the ground has sunk & 1 article described as 'tofu' - presumably all that water can't be helping & if the bedrock is shale (I'm still trying to find the geological info) then it will have fractured badly as wellby UKVal 5/14/2011 6:54:54 PM
sorry, was in moderation for a while ......by Edano 5/14/2011 6:56:29 PM- @LM : i don't want to argue about this. i agree it's a mess. :)
(but just imagine: we have a building made of concrete and steel. in the center there is a huge lightbulb of concrete and steel, sitting on an even more huge torus of concrete and steel below ground. and below it several meters concrete in the ground. and there are concrete and steel floors with crossbars. it may collapse, it may lose its roof and blow off the upper floor, but it will never lean. think of the WTC. they just collapsed without leaning.)by Edano 5/14/2011 6:56:36 PM 
Anyone seen @Bo?by Panserbjorne9 5/14/2011 6:56:36 PM- @edano you werent put in mod I dont know how the gremlin got you
I feel awful of all the times for you to be snatched from us!! my apologies I only went looking when I noticed yoy hadnt repliedby elainekirk 5/14/2011 6:57:05 PM - @UKVal True..It's a perfect storm of challenges.by LM 5/14/2011 6:57:40 PM
- @elainekirk : my ff crashed, and sometimes this puts me off ;)
I feel terrible what lousy timing that gremlin has a sick sense of humour p.s. did you see marie in there cos she hasnt been around for awhile :)by Edano edited by elainekirk 5/14/2011 6:57:53 PM 
The air cooling unit.
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 6:59:00 PM- Human interest news story for bo when he shows up. Day care centers kept kids safe www.yomiuri.co.jpby Panserbjorne9 5/14/2011 6:59:02 PM
- @edano No arguments. I think it's all semantics and frankly we are all speculating at least a little. Even Tepco is scratching their head....Just my 2 cents.by LM 5/14/2011 6:59:13 PM
Air cooling unit fans.
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 6:59:46 PM
Temp pool at reactor 4.
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 7:00:52 PM- I see duct tape!by Rob in SF 5/14/2011 7:01:20 PM
- @edano I agree that the whole building isn't leaning over!by LM 5/14/2011 7:01:25 PM
- @rob and what is that going to cool? and those fans! is anyone up to putting those in context with the size of a unit ? those fans wouldn't cool a decent sized mcdonaldsby elainekirk 5/14/2011 7:01:30 PM
- is that a paddling pool or are they planning a jacuzzi?by UKVal 5/14/2011 7:02:24 PM
All is pristine and OK!
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 7:02:35 PM- @rob what is the pool for exactly? please don't tell us they want us to believe it is for fuelby elainekirk 5/14/2011 7:03:08 PM
Installing a back up nitrogen gas cylinder to drive valves (Unit 3)
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 7:03:55 PM- @Rob in SF what a photo! Have they touched it up or are they really just springcleaning the place!by UKVal 5/14/2011 7:04:05 PM
- and what is air cooling for ? i thought they wanted to cool the water ?by Edano 5/14/2011 7:04:09 PM
- That looks like seawater from the basement or a well or som'n they're pumping into that pool...by Rob in SF 5/14/2011 7:04:35 PM
- green duct tape !!!!!by Edano 5/14/2011 7:04:35 PM
- @Edano The breach in the vessel of Unit 1 mandates air cooling.by Rob in SF 5/14/2011 7:05:04 PM
- Green..how appropriate!by LM 5/14/2011 7:05:15 PM
- does anyone want to tell tepco that that is the wrong paintwork for daiichi. Hey just in passing our family know the company who designed the real daiichi paint jobby elainekirk 5/14/2011 7:05:52 PM
Carrying out a mock generator (turbine building at Unit 4)
Huh?
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/14/2011 7:05:57 PM
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