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@Veenie - I don't know whether the GoJ's priority all along has been to avoid panic & keep the economy afloat even if people are sacrificed along the way

@UKVal GoJ's big focus has been getting industry and money flowing back in those areas. It is just sick. They are more worried about factories churning out product that the safety of people.

@Veenie - and water vapour rising up in the atmosphere condensing on dust particles is how clouds are formed. Don't worry they say they contamination is localized. BS

@Nancy It is sick, but it makes some kind of sense looked at from a whole country point of view - same as flooding homes in gthe Missisipi to save cities. It's the old Utilitarian principle in operation

@Nancy Do you remember what Dean said about levels that prove core breach? I thought he said 1 sievert/hr but couldn't remember. 2 sieverts/hr at doors seems tremendous!

@Nancy This might explain........ Where to find them: Snow crabs live in deep, cold water in the Sea of Japan, from Hokkaido to central Honshu. They are also prominent in fish markets, where they are one of the most commercially important species fished in Japan. They are caught from baited pots at depths as great as 1,000 meters.

@LM that seems to be right in the water path where the contamination is flowing IIRC, out and up north.

@you now that I look at a map it is other side of the island.

@Nancy The others areasbthey are found would probably also be affected........... Snow crab are caught as far north as the Arctic Ocean, from Newfoundland to Greenland and north of Norway in the Atlantic Ocean, and across the Pacific Ocean, including the Sea of Japan, the Bering Sea, the Gulf of Alaska, Norton Sound, and even as far south as California for Chionoecetes bairdi.

Well....Except for Newfoundland and Greenland and Norway....

@Nancy It is on the other side but I think...radiation aside... The fishing industry in general has been seriously affected all over Japan. @Veenie I wouldn't be surprised if seismic activity affected them as well.

@UKVal "I don't know whether the GoJ's priority all along has been to avoid panic & keep the economy afloat even if people are sacrificed along the way"

Yup, that would be the primary directive.

@LM Hello all considering they have pics of the fishing vessels sittin on top of two story buildings, I would have to agree with you, its not just the radation

@Bobby1 Thanks for the Oni Oni link about the WSPEEDI numbers. They're shocking.

Maybe since so much of Japan's fishing is either suspect or out of work they are not exporting. Makes me wonder about the Alaska crab fishing situation.

Symptoms of acute radiation (dose received within one day):[4]
0 – 0.25 Sv (0 – 250 mSv): None
0.25 – 1 Sv (250 – 1000 mSv): Some people feel nausea and loss of appetite; bone marrow, lymph nodes, spleen damaged.
1 – 3 Sv (1000 – 3000 mSv): Mild to severe nausea, loss of appetite, infection; more severe bone marrow, lymph node, spleen damage; recovery probable, not assured.
3 – 6 Sv (3000 – 6000 mSv): Severe nausea, loss of appetite; hemorrhaging, infection, diarrhea, peeling of skin, sterility; death if untreated.
6 – 10 Sv (6000 – 10000 mSv): Above symptoms plus central nervous system impairment; death expected.
Above 10 Sv (10000 mSv): Incapacitation and death
en.wikipedia.org

So much for the other side of the island being safe. Akita has contamination in the intermediate range..:-(

@Reed 550,000 was the mandatory evacuation zone. Though even now, areas with lower contamination than Tokyo are still having problems with birth defects.

TEPCO has announced that water has been leaking through small openings in the bottom of the No. 1 reactor's pressure vessel.

Combined, the openings would be equivalent to a hole several centimeters in diameter, and according to TEPCO, were made when melted nuclear fuel damaged the bottom.

The melted fuel likely has accumulated in the bottom of the vessel. TEPCO has admitted the situation is a meltdown, in which melted nuclear fuel cannot maintain its shape and drops down to lower parts of a reactor core.

However, it is highly likely that water also has been leaking from the containment vessel, which envelops the pressure vessel. This has affected TEPCO's ongoing water entombment operations, in which it is pouring water into the containment vessel to cool the pressure vessel.
www.yomiuri.co.jp

@bobby, I didn't mean don't post it here, but a copy of that type of info all in one place.

Contaminated nuke plant workers going back on job as safety regs go by wayside
mdn.mainichi.jp
"Safety standards for workers at the tsunami-hit nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture have been relaxed without any scrutiny, forcing workers to do their jobs without being completely decontaminated, it has emerged."

EDF Energy poised to begin nuclear 'push'
EDF Energy, the nuclear giant, is to launch a major campaign to sell nuclear energy to the British public in the wake of the Fukushima incident in Japan. www.telegraph.co.uk