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@LM think it's wind. Can't find any quake alerts

@LM don't worry - I'm cam obsessed

lol nearly, except for the ugly url at the bottom

@Meretisa hi! hope you find the house of your dreams soon. re 3- I don't think there's major change. 4 looks as if it's collapsing more, but I'm prbably imagining it.

@Rexz If that tank is up at #5, 5 didn't have a hydrogen explosion. I think all that crazy twisting was done by the tsunami.

@Nancy Did you copy the pdf link ?

The last news from Fukushima inside Le Monde was last friday. Sorry it is google translate and only for sibscribers: Shy transparency about the consequences of the accident in Fukushima
Something has changed in the information given to the Japanese on the nuclear crisis Fukushima. After two months ago to minimize the dangers to evade questions on the actual severity of the accident after the earthquake and tsunami of March 11 in four of six reactors at the plant, the Government, the Electricity Company of Tokyo (TEPCO), but also researchers previously stakeholders of the powerful nuclear lobby Japanese are beginning to show a little more transparency.

Proof of this evolution, sensitive but timid, the government spokesman Yukio Edano pledged to do "everything possible to ensure transparency of information" during the visit from May 24 to June 2 of a team investigators of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). A confession that speaks to the policy followed so far.

Similarly, the documents released May 16 by Tepco reflect the chaos at the station immediately after the earthquake of magnitude 9 that struck the Tohoku region, northeastern Japan. It appears from these report that, contrary to what the company and most experts "official" listed by the major Japanese media, the nuclear incident began before the arrival of the tsunami, evidence that the installation, yet built to standards considered the strictest in the world, has withstood the bad earthquake. The tsunami has only aggravated the situation. Similarly, ads Tepco that the reactor vessels were intact and the fuel had partially melted, were erroneous and especially so far from a reality that confirms the continuing danger of a situation even more precarious than the region remains subject to violent aftershocks of magnitudes such as 5.8 and 4.6, which hit eastern Japan Friday, May 20 The new data also jeopardizes the commitment of TEPCO, taken April 17 and reiterated on May 17, to regain control of the facility within six to nine months.

But what most worries the Japanese today is information on the levels of contamination. The Ministry of Science maintains measurements in all prefectures.

Several researchers, like Professor Kunihiko Takeda, an expert in uranium enrichment, challenge how they are done. It regrets in particular that they are made to 18 m high. In his view, it is better to take measurements at ground level, to determine the actual exposure of the population. But at this level they should be higher.

@Rexz, implosion of the surge tank could be caused by rapid cooling of the tank if its content were hot

@UKVal It is weird. I don't think I've ever seen the bobbing thing outside of them zooming or with major gusts of wind. (shrug)

@Rexz indeed, and i am only speculating

@UKVal @LM Almost looks lke we'e watching it from a boat, bobbing on the water.

@Rexz it is interesting, just wonder were to look about the info on 5&6 connection.. have been looking at abiut 100 drawings (that i did not print correctly and cut of info boxes) they are not japan, but if 50% is correct... the reactor systems are much more complex than anyone on the internet is addressing....

@Rexz Don't tanks deform like that during a flood when they're empty?
If so, the question is: why was the tank empty?

I would only think a tank would deform like that due to a change in pressure? Yes temperature change would cause it too, but that would be a pressure change of the liquid cooling/heating rapidly? Would this not have an effect on the sup
pression pool too?

Imagine a arc in an cathedral, apply pressure from the outside of the arc and it will support a huge load, aplly pressure from the inside and it will crumble with little force

@Rexz not saying all or none of the senerios happened... but tanks are not designed to keep tidial/wave action out.. they the design factors would be concentrated on holding water in and its forces... also have to look at if it had a vent... punp out a 18 wheeler and don't open vent the tank will look the same... seen it happen

@Reed temp difference, filled with hot air, surounded by cold water

@WolfDK why do you think the tank had a temp other than atmosperic temp???

@rexz start at the beginging.. first is it fresh water make-up or sea water cooling, or part of a closed system on the fresh water side do you know any of these????

@WolfDK it looks like the waves twized... like when standing on in the wave action on the beach and a strong current pulls at your feet

@dean correct.... except if its "hot" which i don't think it would be, thats why i say it looks twisted