Japan Earthquake

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@Nancy thanks. And did the CEO take a non-tradiational swandive? (no sword)
by bo 5/22/2011 6:19:47 PM

@radioguy yes. There was some major permanent movement. So all that leaking seeping water is probably finding quite a few places to leak.
@Bo, so far he just quit, no spectacular exit yet.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 6:20:16 PM

Well he took a very slow-motion dive to take the blame 'for the losses'
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:20:26 PM

As opposed to 'for the total ******* disaster'
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:20:49 PM

@radioguy The dam is just show for the press boys...much like the helicopter drops of water were to assuage the US.
by Reed 5/22/2011 6:22:32 PM

:-) Hud gets my reference, but Is a cunning stunt better then a stuning *unt?
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:23:15 PM

Thanks all. RT is wanting me to go back on, but I feel too far out of the loop to be able to discuss anything concrete. One thing I can say now that I am out here among the "straights" and that is that most people believe that the situation is under control. They really got the PR stuff right, no? Don't you wish they did half this good a job on the safety? During the time when three plants were melting down, they got everyone to buy in on the Fukushima 50 gonna save the world! and now that it is clear that three meltdowns have occurred, no one seems to have heard the news. I don't know who their PR firm is, but I know that it is time to buy their stock.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:23:21 PM

I am sorry, I was referring to the IMF guy's case.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:25:06 PM

@Ralph Unger The most carefully pronounced album name in radio history, Caravan's Cunning Stunts. When you go into a name sayinf to yourself "DON'T reverse them) it's very hard not to. ;)
by radioguy 5/22/2011 6:25:39 PM

@bo I agree with you it is all PR and Lawyer speak
by elainekirk 5/22/2011 6:26:39 PM

We had this discussion a few days ago , Radioguy, I have made a few mistakes in my time in radio.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:27:00 PM

@bo: I read very early on when there was lots of talk of help from the US that the CIA was sending 12 experts to deal with the the PR for the crisis. It was the oddest thing to read and stuck with me. Does anyone remember something like that? Maybe it was a joke/
by dh 5/22/2011 6:27:39 PM

@joniver If you put it on full screen it's easy to see.
by LM 5/22/2011 6:28:24 PM

CIA? no, but we sure did send a few spin doctors that way.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:28:46 PM

@all Take a look at base of 3. I'm seeing what looks like fire.
by LM 5/22/2011 6:29:19 PM

@dh very interesting. We have clearly learned how to "manage" these events. Looks like we did a bang up job. Time to leave the clean up to the "reality based" folks. I'd be interested to see that link if anyone still has it.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:29:46 PM

@LM - in such low light it is very hard to be certain about faint colours, they're within the camera margin of error
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:29:51 PM

It is so strange to be looking at Japan on the webcam, but to not BE there.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:30:33 PM

Areava did a lot more work, I wonder why ? LOL they also sent in the first planes into Libya, I wonder why? Maybe to prove them combat capable and then let the US do alll the real work?
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:30:33 PM

I'm also seeing the orange glow on bottom of 4 just below the blue glow area.
by LM 5/22/2011 6:31:38 PM

300 cruise missals compared to 2 from Europe?
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:31:52 PM

@bo - the problem with the 'information containment' strategy is that it assumes that the situation can be got under control in a finite timescale (the basis of the 'road map' but so far there's no hard evidence of progress at all, almost everything tried has failed.
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:32:36 PM

@LM - as it is almost dawn keep watching for strange camera events
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:33:28 PM

200,000k per missal. To take out a 50 Pound
LB missile site.
by Ralph Unger 5/22/2011 6:33:45 PM

@hudebnik I disagree. It depends on what the goal of the information containment is. Currently we are in a situation in which three nuclear power plants have melted down, and yet most people would not say that has happened. From a PR point of view, that is success. The fact that it is also not true is, from a PR point of view, immaterial.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:34:29 PM

@bo The real genius of the PR spin was to make sure that the 'global incident' never elevated to more than a 'industrial accident'.
by Reed 5/22/2011 6:35:07 PM

@bo The PR will hit walls periodically as the evidence overwhelms the facade. Then you have things like TEPCO's 2000 document data dump. Lather rinse repeat.
by Nancy 5/22/2011 6:35:29 PM

Exactly, once the narrative of getting the situation "under control" caught hold, nothing else will dislodge it. No matter how many "facts" show up later.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:37:10 PM

@LM I suppose it could be a trick of light but it's right at the bottom of #4's smoke plume?
by joniver 5/22/2011 6:38:29 PM

Hi all... Missed you Bo. Sorry about the miss hap yesterday Reed...sincere apologies.
by carabnr 5/22/2011 6:39:03 PM

@bo The PR campaign has largely succeeded, but it doesn't take too much effort for a person to do an internet search on Fukushima, and get a more reasonable idea of what is happening. It takes two to tango. Maybe people don't want to know.
by Bobby1 5/22/2011 6:39:33 PM

@joniver I don't know but it's certainly suspicious. The color was there on 3 for a while before sun-up as well. It looks clear today so maybe we'll get some confirmations one way or the other.
by LM 5/22/2011 6:40:50 PM

@bo - good to see you. I'm taking a Pimm's break now chaps, see you later maybe. Any comments on my theories about the mystery flash etc gratefully received. Over and out/
by hudebnik 5/22/2011 6:40:53 PM

Hi @carabnr. @Bobby1 I do agree with you. This is one for the ages, no matter how they spin it. I think that you are right, people don't want to know. It is easier, for some reason, to be mad latter at what they didn't tell you, than to assume the worst andtake immediate action.
by bo 5/22/2011 6:41:00 PM

@hubdebnik right back at you. Thanks! And thanks for holding the London fort down!
by bo 5/22/2011 6:41:42 PM

@bo Radiation is a strange and forbidding subject, with tales of weird birth defects, Godzilla, giant grasshoppers, nerdy physicists with incomprehensible equations. It is viewed as something alien and unnatural, perhaps there is some kind of inherent avoidance reaction about the subject.
by Bobby1 5/22/2011 6:46:36 PM