Japan Earthquake | Page 1439

  • and as an aside there is big trouble brewing in Korea
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 9:43:46 AM

  • Stabilizing reactors by year's end may be impossible: Tepco
    Kyodo
    Stabilizing the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 power plant by the end of the year may be impossible, senior officials at Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday, throwing a monkey wrench into plans to let evacuees return to their homes near the plant.

    The confirmation of core meltdowns hitting reactors 1 through 3, accompanied by breaches to the critical pressure vessels that hold the nuclear fuel, has led officials to believe that "there will be a major delay to work" to contain the situation, one official said.

    Tepco, the plant's operator, announced on April 17 its road map for bringing the troubled reactors into a cold shutdown within six to nine months.

    Even though the fuel in the No. 1 reactor was later found to have melted through the pressure vessel, the utility said as recently as May 17 that it did not see a need to revise its projections.

    But "the nine months is just a target deadline for which we are making efforts," a senior Tepco official said, indicating that the likely delay will affect the plan to review the evacuation of local residents. The government is hoping to review the order once the reactors are brought under control.

    Tepco was taking steps until early May to completely fill the containment vessels housing the pressure vessels with water so the fuel could be cooled.

    But on May 12, it was confirmed that a meltdown had occurred at the No. 1 reactor, forcing the utility to abandon the water entombment idea and try to install a new cooling system that decontaminates and recycles the radioactive water flooding the reactor's turbine building instead.

    Given that the contaminated water has leaked from the No. 1 reactor's containment vessel, a Tepco official said, "We must first determine where it is leaking and seal it."

    The official added, "Unless we understand the extent of the damage, we don't even know how long that work alone would take," noting the need for one or two months more than previously thought to establish an entirely new cooling system.
    search.japantimes.co.jp
    by estacion 5/30/2011 9:43:47 AM

  • @elainekirk, ugh.
    by bo 5/30/2011 9:43:50 AM

  • @elainekirk what kind of trouble?
    by bo 5/30/2011 9:44:08 AM

  • @Edano you are reading my mind, don't you? :)
    by estacion 5/30/2011 9:45:41 AM

  • @estacion :)
    by Edano 5/30/2011 9:45:57 AM

  • FOCUS: Twin disasters prompt more women to seek marriage

    By Sawako Obara
    TOKYO, May 30, Kyodo

    In the aftermath of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, many Japanese people scrambled to stock up on emergency supplies, while others flocked to buy energy-saving devices amid fears of power outages as the twin disasters crippled power plants.

    Amid the increased sense of insecurity, a growing number of Japanese women set their minds on finding a marriage partner.

    Many women say they have become more eager to get married after reassessing their lifestyles and rediscovering the importance of family in these trying times.
    english.kyodonews.jp

    back to the roots.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 9:47:17 AM

  • @bo Fresh warnings today directed at #ROK from #DPRK military. KPA to cut N-S military communication along east coast & Mt Kumgang liaison ofc.
    They have said they are ready to use force 'anytime anywhere'
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 9:48:15 AM

  • Germany to seek shutdown of all nuclear plants by 2022: reports

    BERLIN, May 30, Kyodo

    Germany's ruling coalition parties hammered out a plan to permanently shut down all of its 17 nuclear power plants by 2022 in the wake of Japan's serious nuclear plant accidents, the German Press Agency and other media reported Monday.

    Chancellor Angela Merkel will seek Cabinet approval of a June 6 deadline to close down all such plants after reviewing findings by a government energy policy commission due Monday, as well as opinions in both ruling and opposition camps, according to the reports.

    The expected decision by the ruling camp in the wake of massive radiation leakage accidents at the Fukushima Daiichi complex would shorten the timetable for Germany's exit from nuclear power from 2036 set by the legislation passed last year, according to the reports.
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 5/30/2011 9:48:41 AM

  • @elainekirk always fun in NE Asia! ty
    by bo 5/30/2011 9:49:00 AM

  • @elainekirk : they are just playing like kiddies. they will not bite, as long as china and usa do not tell them so.
    by Edano edited by Edano 5/30/2011 9:50:24 AM

  • @edano this is true you speak wise words
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 9:51:01 AM

  • @elainekirk : in germany we had a similar situation during the cold war. we were completely tied by USA/USSR. we germans just pretended from time to time that we were independent. ;)
    by Edano edited by Edano 5/30/2011 9:53:40 AM

  • glowing mushrooms

    High radioactivity level at No. 2 reactor

    The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says the radioactivity level and humidity are high in the Number 2 reactor building, which will make internal operations hard.

    Workers entered the building last week to measure humidity and to gauge levels of radioactive substances in the atmosphere.

    The results show the Number 2 reactor building's radioactive cesium level is twice as high as the cesium level in air not purified in the Number 1 reactor building. Steam is filling the Number 2 building, and humidity has reached 99.9 percent.

    The high humidity means an air purification unit cannot be used to lower the level of radioactivity.

    In order to cool the spent fuel storage pool that's causing the steam, TEPCO will put in place a heat exchanger on Tuesday to serve as a cooling system.

    But TEPCO does not know how effective the system will be, so it will be a while before it can install the purifier to lower the radioactivity level.

    Monday, May 30, 2011 07:04 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 5/30/2011 9:56:51 AM

  • Radioactive level up again at reactor water intake

    The operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant says it has detected higher levels of radioactive materials in seawater samples taken near the water intake at one of the reactors.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company says it detected 24 becquerels of radioactive iodine-131 per cubic centimeter in samples collected near the water intake for the Number 2 reactor on Saturday.

    The figure is 600 times higher than the national limit, though levels at the spot had been falling. A day earlier, a level 130 times the limit was detected.

    TEPCO says the level of radioactive cesium is also rising at that spot, though the level of that substance had been falling, too.

    The samples were taken at the same site where iodine-131 at a level 7.5 million times the limit was detected on April 2nd.

    TEPCO says the reason for the upward trend is not yet clear, and that it will monitor the situation closely.

    Radioactivity levels have been falling at other spots, such as offshore areas and the water intake at the Number 3 reactor.

    Monday, May 30, 2011 06:05 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 5/30/2011 9:58:11 AM

  • and now the good news:

    Expert: no threat of radiation from rain

    Professor Shunichi Yamashita of Nagasaki University says there's no need to prepare for radioactive rain.

    Yamashita said on Sunday that no radiation has been detected in dust in the atmosphere. He was referring to an investigation conducted last week in areas more than 20 kilometers away from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

    He says the rains mean radioactive substances on the ground will be washed away and thinly diffused, except for in areas that collect rain.

    Monday, May 30, 2011 06:05 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano edited by Edano 5/30/2011 9:59:11 AM

  • @edano - of course! Rain didn't cause any problems in the UK after Chernobyl. Apart from still having restrictions on outdoor reared lamb in some areas, 25 years later that is.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:00:33 AM

  • @Edano Don't you find that 99.9% humidity weird?
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:00:37 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus : must be raining in there.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 10:01:19 AM

  • @pedro @edano the stats for all 3 reactors seem very unstable - oscillating rads in #1, and very unstable temperature readings in #2 www.tepco.co.jp and #3 www.tepco.co.jp Surely all the sensors can't be faulty! (@edano - these are the latest that should feed into your and @radioguy's excellent graphs)
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:03:03 AM

  • "except for in area's that collect rain"
    so that'll be reservoirs, groundwater, soil, .........
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 10:03:38 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus @Edano.
    No if temperatures are high into the building
    by estacion 5/30/2011 10:04:23 AM

  • According to those Tepco stats www.tepco.co.jp the control rod temp in #2 is 568.2C!!
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:05:56 AM

  • @Edano I mean, how can radiation releases increase when you don't have more than .1% radiotiactive particulates in suspension? Those figures have got to be wrong or someone is making the wrong assumptions on that article (which wouldn't surprise me).
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:06:18 AM

  • @hudebnik Well, but that says nothing of the room temperature outside the RPV.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:07:08 AM

  • and now - because i love it - the news of the week from yesterday:

    Emergency manual to protect tourism from being affected by unfounded rumors stemming from natural disasters or epidemics

    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano edited by Edano 5/30/2011 10:07:28 AM

  • @edano - I'm very worried by these clouds of highly radioactive rumours drifting about...
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:08:26 AM

  • @hudebnik : make me shiver, those bad rumors.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 10:10:04 AM

  • @hudebnik It does tell us, though, that most of fuel must still be within the RPV which is not so bad.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:10:26 AM

  • @edano - me too, thank goodness they aren't true!
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:10:27 AM

  • @pedro - I doubt that, those temps would suggest that the core is somewhere below the RPV, either on its way out or has left and is in the (leaking) containment. If 568C is the temp inside the containment then the 150 tons aper day of water being poured over it would make a shedload of very hot steam.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:13:09 AM

  • @edano - actually the events of the last few days have almost completely proved that the rumours/speculation about what happened when have been largely very accurate.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:14:25 AM

  • @hudebnik The control rods are inside the fuel racks. That doesn't make much sense. If the fuel leaked down into the CV what is heating up the control rods so much?
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:15:55 AM

  • This board has an excellent record in that respect (thanks @all).
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:15:58 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus : you are still optimistic ? i am quite sure the corium is eating its way out of the containment, maybe it is already outside.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 10:16:45 AM

  • @pedro - well they were before it all melted down. The sensor position is shown on the Tepco graphic (if it's acccurate) as somewhere below the RPV.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:17:12 AM

  • so bad they have no sensors beneath the reactors.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 10:18:42 AM

  • My guess is that it is still inside the containment in all 3 reactors, but that the containment is breached in some way, maybe cracked. If the containment had a big hole in the bottom I reckon we would have had either a big bang or much higher ground/sea water readings.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:19:17 AM

  • @Edano I wish I could still be optimistic. But I'm wondering where that high temperature is coming from, since the fuel would be the only thing releasing energy inside the reactor. That is, if that reading is accurate.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:19:27 AM

  • @hudebnik I'm with you there. I'm still asking myself the same question... if the core would have mostly melted through there should be way higher radiation readings all around.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:21:18 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus : i am not sure, but i guess the vapor can have very high temperatures.
    by Edano edited by Edano 5/30/2011 10:21:47 AM

  • @pedro - well there are rather a lot of sensors giving very high readings in all 3 reactors, personally I can't imagine a situation in which, as they are all providing readings, they can ALL have failed at the same time. I believe they are specified to be robust enough to survive 'normal' disasters.
    by hudebnik 5/30/2011 10:21:50 AM

  • Tepco floorplans of the flooding !!
    www.tepco.co.jp
    and the water level charts
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/30/2011 10:25:12 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus : hey, they admiited meltdowns and holes in rpv two months ago. i don't think the corium would stay in there like waiting for the bus.
    by Edano 5/30/2011 10:25:17 AM

  • @hudebnik Yes, so something is not making sense. I think they should make an extra effort to find out for sure where the molten fuel in each reactor is sitting, if this is at all possible at this point.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/30/2011 10:25:25 AM

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