Japan Earthquake | Page 1543
well what do you think of this? in.reuters.comby trh 6/8/2011 1:28:56 PM
@elainekirk not that I have heard of yet.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:29:41 PM- @trh probably a good thing but will present a major challenge for Japan to deal with their power needs. I think part of the reason Germany was able to shut down their reactors is the geographic size of the country. If you have a nuclear accident in Germany it could make a huge percentage of the country uninhabitable. Same goes for Japan, they have a finite amount of land. I think this is why the US and Russia are seeing less urgency, the concept of ruining a huge percentage of your land doesn't sink in when the countries are a big land mass.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:32:36 PM
finally a picture of how they load/unload a fuel cask! archive.greenpeace.org
by lillymunster via Archive.greenpeace.org 6/8/2011 1:34:16 PM- @lillymunster i think they are just talking about shutting down the NPP's... they just don' have any alternative yet..by trh 6/8/2011 1:34:32 PM
"Japanese shore crabs are threatening native clams and mussels from Maine to Chesapeake Bay, which is infested with 150-plus exotic species. " As you see in this article, japanese water' are constant being 'IMPORTED" by America. EPA is responcible to control... www.mlive.comby Majj 6/8/2011 1:35:45 PM
That could be problematic. Nuc nominally supplies about 30% of Japan's electricity. Japan faces a big bill for earthquake/tsunami repair, needs robust industry to help. Another big cost (fossil fuels, possibly including new fossil fuel plants) would not be helpful.by Markfm 6/8/2011 1:37:10 PM
OMG !! W7VOA Steve Herman
Tokyo announces expanded radiation monitoring in Japanese capital. At present, official data recorded at only 1 bldg. in Shinjuku.
twitter.com!/W7VOAby elainekirk 6/8/2011 1:38:02 PM- Nuclear accident inspection must give public a fair view of Fukushima crisis mdn.mainichi.jpby Markfm 6/8/2011 1:41:05 PM
- Tepco release of tainted water halted search.japantimes.co.jpby Markfm 6/8/2011 1:42:25 PM
- Evacuation of hot spots mulled search.japantimes.co.jpby Markfm 6/8/2011 1:43:23 PM
@Majj my point exactly!!!! you are right on point with balest dumping problems, its even in the Great lakes i believe.... ask the captio you are meeting if he hears talk of monitoring the water, off shore dumping is still to close for meby fitter 6/8/2011 1:43:54 PM- 'Melt-through' at Fukushima? / Govt report to IAEA suggests situation worse than meltdown www.yomiuri.co.jp "If the report is released as is, it would be the first official recognition that a melt-through has occurred."by Markfm 6/8/2011 1:45:44 PM
- AH! FOUND IT! "(B) The licensee shall store un-irradiated MOX fuel assemblies only
within a spent fuel pool, located within a vital area, so that access to
the un-irradiated MOX fuel assemblies requires passage through at least
two physical barriers and the water barrier combined with the additional
measures detailed in this section." edocket.access.gpo.gov
Mox needs to be stored in a SFPby lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:46:11 PM 
BEHIND THE MYTH: 'Nuclear village' rules itself in TEPCO hierarchy www.asahi.comby Bobby1 6/8/2011 1:46:31 PM- @Majj. thanks lots of good infoby cat 6/8/2011 1:46:34 PM
- I think Majj is really onto something with the ballast water issue. IIRC does Sendai have a big shipping port? The water rad levels in the major ports in Japan is obviously an issue.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:47:44 PM
- Govt to test vegetable radioactivity / Data on cesium absorption from soil aimed to help Fukushima farmers www.yomiuri.co.jpby Markfm 6/8/2011 1:47:49 PM
by LM 6/8/2011 1:48:53 PM- Morning All! Has anyone heard anything more about my last post?by LM 6/8/2011 1:49:31 PM
- Contaminated water removal to be suspended soon www3.nhk.or.jpby Markfm 6/8/2011 1:49:41 PM
- No telling what the equivalent Japanese MOX storage requirements are.by Markfm 6/8/2011 1:51:09 PM
- Fukushima meltdown could be template for nuclear terrorism, study says... www.minnpost.com
this is too much....by trh 6/8/2011 1:51:16 PM 
@LM Nope, i posted it on Twitter, waiting for further news.KYODO sux for not elaborating, this is not the kind of news to be shortened !! ((by Veenie 6/8/2011 1:51:28 PM- @Veenie I completely agree!by LM 6/8/2011 1:52:09 PM
- @nancy my ram doesnt like that pdf think I am going to have to get a new desktop in the near futureby elainekirk 6/8/2011 1:55:09 PM
- @Markfm I have a news report of MOX being stored in a SFP, the bad assemblies that were sent back. Hard to find anything on Japanese requirements since pretty much everything is voluntary.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:55:55 PM
- @elainekirk Adobe is failing over and over to stabilize and manage resources.....all their products seem to stifle sooner or later the process tree in Windows.
Alternatives
www.pcworld.comby Veenie 6/8/2011 1:58:43 PM - @elainekirk upload it to google docs to read?by lillymunster 6/8/2011 1:59:53 PM
- @nancy good thinking @veenie Quake observations www.voanews.comby elainekirk 6/8/2011 2:02:21 PM
- by Veenie 6/8/2011 2:04:58 PM
- SMR's are on the way: Senate board hears testimony on small modular reactors
www.aikenstandard.comby trh 6/8/2011 2:06:03 PM 
@LM The power is back @#1 & #2...
"On Wednesday afternoon, a switchboard problem knocked out power to the control rooms of the No.1 and No. 2 reactors, and stopped data transmission from 2 radiation monitoring posts within the compound.
Nitrogen injection into the No.1 reactor containment vessel was also suspended.
The switchboard was fixed about 3 hours later. TEPCO says the data transmission and nitrogen injection have resumed." www3.nhk.or.jpby Reed 6/8/2011 2:11:23 PM- @Veenie thanks for the video, looks like it should be helpful to gather databy fitter 6/8/2011 2:11:36 PM
- NHK stories carried in today’s JAIF earthquake report: (Fukushima NPP Site) ●TEPCO tests water purification system ●Radioactive debris outside No.3 reactor removed (Other news) ●Nuclear talks split over inspections ●Utilities asked to submit nuclear safety measures ●Experts: Seabed off Miyagi sank before March 11 ●Ministry failed to publish some radiation data ●Govt report calls for measures on multi-disasters ●Japan to review nuclear power safety measures ●IAEA to survey radioactive contamination in seaby Markfm 6/8/2011 2:12:11 PM
- @Reed Thanks!by LM 6/8/2011 2:12:13 PM
- If 3 reactors breacher by March14th what did all the water pouring/injection achieve?by cat 6/8/2011 2:12:24 PM
- Why dont they recycle the water ? If they pumped the water leaking straight through back up into the reactors they would solve two problems in one, cooling them and avoiding overflow. Of course sealing leaks would also be a plusby Kristian 6/8/2011 2:12:32 PM
- @LM YWby Reed 6/8/2011 2:12:49 PM
- @elainekirk USGS, to this date " a leading authority" has not released a PUSH driven APP for early warning and they STILL only release EQ info minimum 8 min. too late.by Veenie 6/8/2011 2:13:12 PM
- @Kristian I asked about that also. It would concentrate even more radioactivity in the water. But the water is already highly radioactive. So more highly radioactive water or slightly less really highly radioactive water. My only guess why they don't at least with 3-4 spent fuel pools is it might make the radioactivity airborne because they spray those two with hoses. The things they can still water with internal systems I really don't understand why they don't reuse water.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 2:15:01 PM
- If your interested in learning a bunch about MOX fuel handling I am reading this US based document. Has lots of info about how MOX is handled and why. docs.google.comby lillymunster 6/8/2011 2:16:02 PM
- I thought part of the water treatment setup was going to be to then reuse water in the cooling loop, though could well be wrong.by Markfm 6/8/2011 2:16:03 PM
- @Markfm NOPE, you thought right.by Veenie 6/8/2011 2:16:38 PM
- @Markfm once they clean it. They won't reuse it untreated.by lillymunster 6/8/2011 2:16:51 PM
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