
@es thanks for the article about the Hiroshima mayor. I'm really glad to hear that. First good thing I have heard about the new mayor.
by bo 7/7/2011 9:20:43 AM

@es he has only been in office for two months and already it is not so good. One of the first things that he did was insult the hibakusha community by saying that the hibakusha all expect handouts and they are going to have to learn that they won't get special treatment. People were quite upset. He is LDP
by bo 7/7/2011 9:29:38 AM

@all I'm off for an Indonesian dinner! Back later!
by bo 7/7/2011 9:42:17 AM

www.physicsforums.com take a look at this.. it sure looks like fuel rods from a fuel bundle on the left photo.. may need to detail it..
by dean 7/7/2011 9:44:34 AM

@dean just looking
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 9:48:53 AM


@dean left hand pic
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 9:53:03 AM


@dean this is the rigt hand pic and there is a chance that it is heat not sunlight as there is no shadow anywhere there are some small fracture type marks on it is it possible they are cracks ?
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 9:57:04 AM


@dean this is the end of the rod in the shadow on the left hand pic I have no idea what the pellets in the assemblies look like but that looks like lumps in a tube to me I wouldnt think metal would fracture like that
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:02:39 AM

2 elaine, the photo on the left interests me ,,, the two tubes, one both of which are what fuel pellet melt through the tube material looks like... and the two support lattice (those connecting the tubes) are what they look like in a fuel bundle which makes up the structural support of a fuel element
by dean 7/7/2011 10:03:22 AM

@dean I will see what I can do with the lattice @lilly is better than me at this but I wil try
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:04:32 AM

@ elaine.. if you go back to one of the prints or figures showing a fuel element with break out detail you will see the pellets inside.. now where the burn out in the tube is visible and then just adjacent to the other fuel rod you will see areas where the pellets in side have burned
by dean 7/7/2011 10:04:37 AM

At 22:29 JST, workers had succeeded in refilling half the reactor with water but parts of the rods were still exposed, and technicians could not rule out the possibility that some had melted. It was hoped that holes blown in the walls of reactor building 2 by the earlier blast from Unit 3 would allow the escape of hydrogen vented from the reactor and prevent a similar explosion NOTE this was on the ASK.COM for unit two.. look at the statement where holes blowin in the walls of reactor building 2 from the unit 3 blast... interesting stuff
by dean 7/7/2011 10:08:15 AM

The utility said that the hydrogen explosion at Unit 3 might have caused a glitch in the cooling system of Unit 2: Four out of five water pumps being used to cool the Unit 2 reactor had failed after the explosion at Unit 3. In addition, the last pump had briefly stopped working when fuel ran out.[164][165] To replenish the water, the contained pressure would have to be lowered first by opening a valve of the vessel. The unit's air flow gauge was accidentally turned off and, with the gauge turned off, flow of water into the reactor was blocked leading to full exposure of the rod more interesting stuff for building 2
by dean 7/7/2011 10:10:21 AM

@dean info turns up all over doesnt it that is interesting so 3 damaged 4 and 2
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:15:53 AM

yes @ elaine
by dean 7/7/2011 10:16:46 AM

and 4 damaged 3
by dean 7/7/2011 10:17:10 AM

I think every one will like the ASK.COM article elaine... please let lilly know and see what she things..
by dean 7/7/2011 10:17:45 AM


@dean this is the lattice I will go look at the fuel now
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:18:51 AM

@dean I have pinned the ask have you seen the notch at the right of the lattice
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:22:40 AM

sounds good elaine.. and you can see those two "burn out" spots on the fuel element tube
by dean 7/7/2011 10:22:45 AM

looking now elaine
by dean 7/7/2011 10:27:24 AM


@dean is this any good is it the area you meant?
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:34:44 AM


yes elaine that's it... now some people may say that is a part of a tube bundle for the inside of a heat exchanger.. but the tubes seem to be sealed at the ends... which may rule out that idean...
by dean 7/7/2011 10:36:13 AM

by dean 7/7/2011 10:37:15 AM


GOOD VIEW with item 9 showing spacers
by dean 7/7/2011 10:40:53 AM


www.nucleartourist.com @ elaine that is a full size of the fuel element

@dean if you scroll back down I found an end that asnt sealed with what looks like pellets showing it is the blue pic because it showed best with that tint
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:44:59 AM

must go shower we are steamer sailing today :)
by elainekirk 7/7/2011 10:45:50 AM

yeah.. sounds good elaine.. I must go as well... a nap then off to work.. will return.. be safe out there
by dean 7/7/2011 10:46:33 AM

ty elaine
by dean 7/7/2011 10:46:45 AM

morning all (or afternoon, evening etc.)
by lillymunster 7/7/2011 11:44:50 AM

Ft. Calhoun puts the aqua dam back up.
www.omaha.comby lillymunster 7/7/2011 12:13:05 PM

good morning to all
by dean 7/7/2011 12:18:07 PM

Hi Dean
by lillymunster 7/7/2011 12:28:00 PM

Looking at those physics forum images. The original poster thought they were not images of the spent fuel pool but somewhere else on #3. Those are SFP images. I will see if I can dig up the original photos to get a better image to look at.
by lillymunster 7/7/2011 12:30:19 PM

Found the images. I think I may have some detail photos of fuel rods from one of the BWR manuals.
by lillymunster 7/7/2011 12:37:32 PM

gm Peter and lilly.. it was captured on the physics page and I ran into it and when I saw it , it sure looked like a tube burnout.. and told elaine to post it.. the physics forum spot mentioned it
by dean 7/7/2011 12:40:18 PM