
@Bo, I was going to write up something on the beef issue. What is the typical meat distribution to consumers in Japan. Here it is mass produced mystery meat or much more expensive farm to butcher to consumer types.
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 3:33:39 PM

@lilly there are several different meat markets here. There is ground beef, which is essentially mystery meat. And there is wagyu beef, known around the world as Kobe beef. This can come from anywhere in Japan and refers to how the cattle are treated. This beef is very marbled with fat, and is therefore very tender. So Japanese produced beef is typically either very pedestrian or very high end. A good deal of the beef here is Australian, which used to be cheaper but is now very expensive and hard to find. US beef was banned here, and then had limited distribution. This crisis will surely open the doors to more beef imports. Japanese people tend to eat beef in small portions, and therefore is often of the high grade Japanese type. Recently I have seen lots of beef in the stores marked as from Hokkaido, which is not typical and I suspect it is Tohoku beef.
by bo 7/13/2011 3:42:52 PM

@bo Is beef typically bought in a supermarket like in the states or something you go to a butcher for?
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 3:45:16 PM

@Jo we should keep an eye on that. Majj and some of the others on Organize are knowledgeable on how to track typhoons. There is a site that has graphics of the projections they use.
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 3:46:48 PM

@lilly most people buy beef at the supermarket, but there are also butchers who specialize in beef from specific places. For example, you can go to a butcher here to get Hiroshima beef.
by bo 7/13/2011 3:47:31 PM

Citizen radioactive monitoring station in Fukushima. Set up to test food, soil, urine etc.
tanakaryusaku.jpby lillymunster 7/13/2011 3:54:59 PM

@lilly also restaurants specialize in specific kinds of meat. So there are beef restaurants.
by bo 7/13/2011 3:55:13 PM

@Jo @lillymunster : typhoon Ma-on:
hisz.rsoe.hu hisz.rsoe.hu2011-07-14 18:00:00 N 20° 42.000, E 144° 12.000 Typhoon II. 157 194 JTWC
2011-07-14 06:00:00 N 20° 24.000, E 146° 36.000 Typhoon I. 139 167 JTWC
2011-07-15 06:00:00 N 21° 0.000, E 141° 48.000 Typhoon II. 167 204 JTWC
2011-07-16 06:00:00 N 21° 48.000, E 138° 6.000 Typhoon III. 185 232 JTWC
2011-07-17 06:00:00 N 23° 12.000, E 135° 12.000 Typhoon III. 194 241 JTWC
2011-07-18 06:00:00 N 26° 12.000, E 133° 6.000 Typhoon III. 194 241 JTWC
by Edano 7/13/2011 3:57:00 PM

Off to bed folks. Mata.
by bo 7/13/2011 4:00:23 PM

@bo nite bo
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 4:05:58 PM

Kan seeks shift from nuclear powerPrime Minister Naoto Kan says Japan should gradually decrease its dependency on nuclear energy, and aim toward creating a society that can get along without it.
Kan announced the shift in the country's energy policy at a news conference in Tokyo on Wednesday.
Kan said the Fukushima nuclear plant crisis that followed the March 11th disaster made him realize that nuclear technology could become uncontrollable.
He added that until the accident, he had backed the use of nuclear energy as long as it was safe.
Referring to restarting idled reactors, Kan said his government could make a final decision on the restart, if government assessments find them to be safe.
On a positive note, Kan said his ministers have told him that power supplies for peak consumption this summer and the coming winter will be adequate, thanks to nationwide power-conservation efforts.
He also said that the government will consider increasing the use of natural gas to secure electric power supplies for next year and beyond.
Presently nuclear generated power accounts for about 30 percent of Japan's electricity.
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 20:14 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/13/2011 4:07:39 PM

by bo 7/13/2011 4:08:32 PM

Wastewater filters still working below targetA system installed to recycle radioactive wastewater at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant continues to work below its target capacity, due to a series of filter problems.
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, started running the system on June 27th to decontaminate radioactive wastewater pooled in reactor buildings, and send it back into the reactors as coolant.
The utility aims to have the system's decontaminating device working at 80 percent capacity.
However, the operating rate for the first week was below target. During its second week, the system was only operating at 73 percent capacity.
Tokyo Electric blames the failure to reach the target on repeated problems with filters used to remove radioactive substances.
The decontaminating device was halted again on Wednesday afternoon because of leaks.The utility considers the system to be critical in cooling the reactors and bringing them under control in line with the timetable it has set.
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 19:22 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/13/2011 4:08:50 PM

Quake damage to turbine blades found at TokaiDamage to turbine blades, apparently caused by the March 11th earthquake, has been found at a nuclear power plant in Ibaraki Prefecture, eastern Japan.
The Tokai Daini plant, about 100 kilometers north of Tokyo, automatically shut down in the quake. The operator of the plant, Japan Atomic Power Company, has been checking the plant closely since May in a regular checkup scheduled to last 6 months.
It says it discovered friction marks on the blades and other parts of the reactor's turbines.
The company believes the damage was caused by the March 11 quake as similar marring had been reported in another plant in Niigata Prefecture in the wake of an earthquake in 2007.
The utility says some parts were also found missing from a device that injects coolant into the reactor. It also discovered cracks in equipment attached to the upper parts of the reactor.
It says it is investigating whether those defects were also caused by the March quake.
In the giant quake, the Tokai Daini plant lost its outside power sources, and had to rely on emergency generators until regular power returned.
Earlier this month the government nuclear safety body found the level of quake-resistance of the electrical equipment at the plant was below the standard set by power companies.
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 22:26 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/13/2011 4:09:56 PM

Kan says Japan should aim for nuclear-free societyBy Takuya Karube
TOKYO, July 13, Kyodo
Prime Minister Naoto Kan said Wednesday that Japan should aim for a society that does not depend on nuclear power in the wake of the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, but denied the possibility of calling for a general election over energy issues.
Kan made his strongest pledge to reduce Japan's reliance on nuclear power since he took office a little over a year ago. Still, apart from calling for more conservation efforts and use of renewable energy, he stopped short of saying by when and how Japan will aim for the new goal.
Whether the dramatic shift in Japan's energy policy will materialize is also unpredictable as it was proposed by Kan who has faced mounting pressure to quit immediately, even from lawmakers within his own ruling party.
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 7/13/2011 4:11:35 PM

Bo, LMAO! :-)
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 4:18:14 PM

TEPCO still doesn't have all workers whole body scanned. Missed a second deadline. 132 workers "missing", can't find them to scan them or don't know who they were.
www.jiji.comby lillymunster 7/13/2011 4:23:30 PM

Gov't nuclear panel noted but downplayed risk of power loss at plantsTOKYO, July 13, Kyodo
Experts in a government commission overseeing the safety of nuclear power generation noted in the early 1990s the possibility of fatal damage to nuclear power plants resulting from loss of all alternating-current sources for long periods, as in the case of the Fukushima Daiichi plant, but played down the risk in view of Japan's advanced power source technology, commission sources said Wednesday.
A panel of five experts in the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan held 12 meetings between October 1991 and June 1993 to study cases related to the loss of power sources at nuclear power plants at home and abroad, according to the commission.
Representatives from Tokyo Electric Power Co. and Kansai Electric Power Co. participated in the study project.
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 7/13/2011 4:23:34 PM

Fukushima plant site originally was a hill safe from tsunami
search.japantimes.co.jp "Tepco, ... reduced the bluff by some 25 meters and erected the plant on artificially prepared ground only 10 meters above sea level....Tepco decided to build the plant on low ground based on a cost-benefit calculation of the operating costs of the seawater pumps, according to two research papers separately written by senior Tepco engineers in the 1960s....If the seawater pumps were placed on high ground, their operating costs would be accordingly higher."
by Markfm 7/13/2011 4:27:57 PM

@jilly_uk thanks @jilly I think cesium137 is around in large quantities
by elainekirk 7/13/2011 4:45:42 PM

@elainekirk the seed thing is something the sunflower remediation people may not have thought of. Would the seeds of those sunflowers accumulate cesium or is it just stored in the stalks and roots? We should find out about this as the seeds could end up as a big source of bird exposure if the seeds house large quantities. From what I have read talked about stalks storing it so it could end up a non-issue.
by lillymunster 7/13/2011 4:50:55 PM

from the ball team article "At the opening ceremony, and complained of symptoms of heat stroke are 18 players, one person was transported to the hospital."
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by lillymunster 7/13/2011 5:06:57 PM