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  • @Jo I had a hummingbird feeder out at the time of the Fuku explosions and the hummingbirds completely stopped feeding from it. I ended up throwing it out. I wonder if there might be a connection. Curious...
    by LM 7/13/2011 6:34:24 PM

  • I can see the pro-nuke PR now. See... your home and garden are free of mold and pests for the fisrt time! And they said radiation is bad. Tsk tsk tsk.
    by RadioGuy 7/13/2011 6:34:40 PM

  • @LM I mentioned yesterday about our finches disappearing when the bird issues came up yesterday.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:35:07 PM

  • Sorry to interrupt but re Bobby's Japanese ballplayers and heatstroke, I just wanted to repost the heat wave info I'd collected a few days ago regarding the highly unusual number of dead and hospitalized in Japan that had been attributed to "heat" in the past month. It is beyond excessive in comparison with other states and cities experiencing heat waves. Posted on the other board July 11.
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:35:18 PM

  • I have just been given another link regarding birds. www.radioactiverobins.com
    It has data from Chernobyl.
    by jilly_uk 7/13/2011 6:35:59 PM

  • @ms in la Yes, 95 and humid is not usually fatal in a normal environment.
    by RadioGuy 7/13/2011 6:36:15 PM

  • News about the June heat wave in JAPAN, but the numbers of dead & injured sound awfully high for weather only in the 90s.

    "Nearly 7,000 people were hospitalized for heatstroke in June, more than three times the number from a year ago. Fifteen died after reaching the hospital. Weather officials said June's heatwave sent temperatures in parts of Japan to their highest levels since 1961. Temperatures in downtown Tokyo reached 95 degrees on June 29. The Japanese government warned of possible heatstroke from setting the thermostat on air conditioners too high -- and of possible food poisoning from raising the temperature in refrigerators."
    by ms in la July 11 at 1:09 AM


    7000 hospitalized and 15 died from 95 degree heat?? What's wrong with this picture?
    hisz.rsoe.hu

    There are at least a half a dozen other places officially designated as under Heat waves right now with far higher temperatures (up to 115) but none are reporting anything like this number of hospitalizations or deaths. Only Serbia reported deaths (10) with 104 degree temperatures and 30 needed medical care.... nowhere near 7000.
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:36:25 PM

  • @ms in la ah, I remember that now. If we found data from whatever Japanese health ministry it could be compared to historical weather data to look for a deviation.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:36:44 PM

  • Running back to work but wanted Bobby to see this - add the 18 ballplayers to the 7000....
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:36:53 PM

  • @Lilly Wow. I've seen hummingbirds..definitely fewer but they went out of their way to not feed from my feeder. They would hover and leave. I found it really strange.
    by LM 7/13/2011 6:36:53 PM

  • Other cities: We currently have a designated Heat Wave going on in Arkansas. Temperatures are being reported from 110 to 114 degrees.

    Dallas also is under a declared Heat Wave status and seeing temps topping 100 degrees for the 10th day.
    Tennessee too is listed as under a Heat Wave which is continuing with temps from 97 up to 105 heat index.
    Missouri is under a Heat Wave alert with 97 to 101 degrees.

    In other counties, Hungary has Heat Wave designation, with temperatures hovering around 102 degrees or 39.1 C.

    Yet, in all of those places under official Heat Wave alert, there were no hospitalizations or deaths reported.

    Except Japan, which in June had temperatures listed at 95 degree highs-- and 7000 people had to be hospitalized while 15 of those actually died. From 95 degree heat (if we are to believe the reporting.....)

    The only place aside from Japan undergoing an officially designated Heat Wave resulting in deaths is Serbia, which is experiencing a continuing Heat Wave with temperatures there reaching 104 F peak (or 40 C.) In Serbia, 10 people have died and 30 have needed emergency medical care. THIRTY. I know Japan is larger and more densely populated but .... 7000!?
    by ms in la July 11 at 12:30 PM
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:38:06 PM

  • @jilly_uk Great!

    @all can someone skim back through posts and grab the related bird links and either start a page for them on the group website or let me know and I can post them.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:39:22 PM

  • Also a response from someone else in Japan....I asked my father in law who owns a huge Mikan-farm in the SetonaIka / Yamaguchi , everything ok there. But I also asked our Gardner who owns a few plotS of land here and he said something similar, that the caterpillars are missing. Yokohama/Tokyo......this goes along with the last post I made.....
    by Jo 7/13/2011 6:41:08 PM

  • Wow...got to catch up...you guys write fast...
    by Jo 7/13/2011 6:41:57 PM

  • Current comment posted on ballplayer article (they seem to get it): "Baseball Stadium 2.2 micro Sieverts per hour mountain Amendment Center, a maximum positional "
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:43:05 PM

  • @lillymunster As for historical data, the article cites this year's number is THREE TIMES the data from last year! 3 X.... Now I'm really gone!
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:44:50 PM

  • lilly.. you can hold a meter up to an animal for general level... but if you sample or have the whole body counter you have to send it to where they have that capability
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:47:21 PM

  • it's not hard.. but it's just getting the equipment
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:47:33 PM

  • Where all the contaminated meat went has been put out but in Japanese. They are still not disclosing the stores and restaurants ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:49:52 PM

  • @dean So a veterinarian with a hand held detector could get external levels to document. But they would need access to a whole body counter to do more?
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:50:49 PM

  • lilly capture these things I put up. please..
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:52:40 PM

  • Last one! It was a high school. And it was only 87 degrees. translate.google.com
    by ms in la 7/13/2011 6:53:07 PM

  • yes lilly.. plus perform an examination to detect signs of radiation sickness..
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:53:14 PM

  • Ok Dean.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:53:18 PM

  • The Pregnant Worker and ALARA
    Licensees are required to attempt to prevent pregnant
    workers from exceeding ~ 55 millirem during any one
    month. The desire is to avoid a large dose to the fetus
    during the 8th to the 15th weeks of the pregnancy as this is
    the period during which it is most sensitive to potential
    radiation-induced effects. Thus, it is incumbent upon the
    pregnant employee to strongly consider officially notifying
    the Radiation Safety Division as soon as she is aware of her
    pregnancy.
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:53:38 PM

  • pick the most important parts of that .. for application to japan..
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:54:07 PM

  • @dean fantastic is very beautiful. Congratulation.
    by Majj 7/13/2011 6:54:32 PM

  • @Dean, great useful info. grabbed it.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 6:55:36 PM

  • Mitigation of Internal Radiation Exposures
    The following practices are effective for reducing
    potential internal exposures :
    1) Good hygiene techniques that prohibit the
    consumption of food and drink in the lab and the
    control of personal gestures that involve “hand-tomouth”
    contacts.
    2) Frequent swipe surveys and lab area monitoring of
    work areas, refrigerators, hoods, sinks, phones and
    computer keyboards, etc.
    3) Control contamination with absorbent paper and
    spill trays, properly labeled waste containers,
    equipment, etc. and prompt decontamination of any
    detected contamination.
    4) Use fume hoods for materials which could become
    airborne (e.g., vapors, dust, aerosols, etc.) and
    present an inhalation hazard to workers.
    5) Use proper protective equipment (PPE) such as
    disposable gloves, safety glasses, lab coats, etc. to
    reduce the possibility of ingestion or absorption of
    radioactive materials.
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:56:23 PM

  • main thing there is ... good hygiene techniques.. washing hands
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:56:56 PM

  • cleaning food like produce
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:57:04 PM

  • clean phones etc., take shoes off outside..
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:57:34 PM

  • try to keep dust down
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:57:43 PM

  • avoid areas of dense shrubs etc.. where fallout could be transferet
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:58:16 PM

  • of course we have mentioned if there is reported high levels of contamination in air.. closing doors and if necessary sealing them off... especially if there are high winds that could blow things inside..
    by dean 7/13/2011 6:59:55 PM

  • would help if they had some sort of map of the area in their house.. and post when they hear levels in areas are high so they can avoid them in their travels
    by dean 7/13/2011 7:01:14 PM

  • would be nice to have them know where to go to get rad surveys.. or find a way to share what we have with some of those organizations
    by dean 7/13/2011 7:01:47 PM

  • stevescomments.wordpress.com check this article out lilly .. some
    good inputs there
    by dean 7/13/2011 7:04:24 PM

  • Does anyone know about laundry and what should be done. Thinking of if someone washes rags full of dirt, will it mostly go out in the water or could it potentially have residue that gets on clothes?
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 7:04:32 PM

  • The one longer-term contaminant we KNOW is all over the place is Cs-137. Is it safe to assume, since Cs-137 reacts like potassium, that high-potassium foods would be higher in cesium and point of origin becomes even more important? High potassium foods: www.vaughns-1-pagers.com
    by RadioGuy 7/13/2011 7:06:06 PM

  • don't go into street ditches or water run off areas where contamination can accumulate due to run off from rains etc.
    by dean 7/13/2011 7:06:27 PM

  • I learned one thing from that right off the bat. PEEL your potatoes.
    by RadioGuy 7/13/2011 7:10:00 PM

  • I have to go for a bit.. lilly .. will return ..
    by dean 7/13/2011 7:11:01 PM

  • @dean thanks dean, grabbed all that was posted.
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 7:12:25 PM

  • @RadioGuy would postassium supplements help?
    by lillymunster 7/13/2011 7:12:52 PM

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