Japan Earthquake | Page 1946
I am tucked up in bed about to start snoring sir :)by elainekirk 7/17/2011 12:43:09 AM- by elainekirk 7/17/2011 12:47:52 AM
hisz.rsoe.hu seems to get weakerby Edano 7/17/2011 12:51:38 AM
@elainekirk are they tweeting the radiation exposure page to help educate people?by lillymunster 7/17/2011 12:53:26 AM
.This is the satellite snapshot recorded about the time @Majj posted his Accuweather contribution about a couple of hours ago. A bit scary, if I may say so, even if Ground Zero doesn't seem to be in line for a direct hit.
The potential downside is that a lot of radiation hazards/contaminants may be scattered all over a wide area, churned up by the typhoon, which has a lot of open sea to traverse before landfall, if at all. And this means a huge opportunity to suck up vast amounts of moisture/rain while still over the ocean.
The periphery wind pattern seems to be blowing toward the north and north-northwest reckoned from the center of the storm, so when the typhoon's edge approaches or starts to touch Ground Zero, the dispersal of hot debris may be toward Upper Honshu and possibly Niigata initially. I hope precautions this early are being mobilized already. Only a couple of days away ...
Source: US Navy MSAT imagery service, Pacific Command.
www.nemoc.navy.milby alblee 7/17/2011 12:53:36 AM- @lillymunster @lillymunster from this tweet
ikrockhopper Itsumi Kakefuda
A ロク show anyway, but it is not and I? I do not know from TV. If, 消Shimasho. @ 4 times as energy-saving turn off the TV more than komatsunotsuma air conditioning. The power savings are bit.ly/ozc0OD Well I Lucchese TV @ Otama_Denjaby elainekirk 7/17/2011 12:54:17 AM - @lillymunster sry bwain dead this tweet
III4III HAL
「内部被曝は被曝のしかたが外部被曝とまったく異なり、きわめて危険である。」Wikipedia ja.wikipedia.org
III4III HAL
"The internal radiation exposure and completely different way of external exposure is extremely dangerous." Wikipedia ja.wikipedia.org E8% A2% AB% E6% 9B% 9D #. E5.86.85 . E9.83.A8.E8.A2.AB.E6.9B.9Dby elainekirk 7/17/2011 12:55:47 AM - @alblee that is looking scaryby elainekirk 7/17/2011 12:57:09 AM
- from twitter: "Cesium beef" was sold and consumed (at least) in 33 prefs, out of 47 prefectures of Japan.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 12:57:59 AM
- @elainekirk if people understand how radiation exposure works and what levels do what they will be more immune to govt. BS...er I mean PR.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 12:58:47 AM
- @lillymunster I will retweet and then bedtime for me goodnight lovely people :)by elainekirk 7/17/2011 1:01:42 AM
Good night, @elaine. Good job tonight.by ALBLEE 7/17/2011 1:02:12 AM- @elainekirk Nite!by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:04:47 AM
- Tehachapi CA geiger 40cpm. Something is passing over for it to be that high.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:05:53 AM
- Would be good to hear about protective/precaution measures being undertaken on the ground by local government units/disaster orgs/NGOs at Tohoku and Greater Upper Honshu in advance of approaching typhoon.by ALBLEE edited by alblee 7/17/2011 1:14:00 AM
- @ALBLEE Bo might know. They were/are in the path, at least were in the predictions the other day.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:17:52 AM
@all Good Morning...Good Evening...Hello!by smoss 7/17/2011 1:22:38 AM
@smoss good morning, and good morning all.by bo 7/17/2011 1:23:48 AM- @all For long-term health of the MOX fuel storage Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 3 (including comment response)
Tokyo Electric Power Company, July 7, 2010
This article documents distributed during the site investigation was conducted on June 10, 2010,
Comments from Chair and committee liaison Fukushima nuclear power plant safety technology
Reflecting the like, is a modification retouched www.pref.fukushima.jpby smoss 7/17/2011 1:25:25 AM - @ALBLEE the Japanese government has long taken precautions for typhoons since we typically get them every year. In regards to the plants, they have already admitted that they (meaning TEPCO) have not taken sufficient precautions for this storm: www.bbc.co.ukby bo 7/17/2011 1:30:55 AM
- Thanks, @Bo. I suppose they (government instrumentalities) realize this would have to be radically different from conventional (no radioactive hazard/threat) typhoon precautions.by ALBLEE 7/17/2011 1:34:55 AM
- @ALBLEE realized it, yes. Acted upon it, no.by bo 7/17/2011 1:35:33 AM
- This morning's peak
gamma reading: .8 uSv/hby bo 7/17/2011 1:36:05 AM - @bo was your previous .7 or .07?by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:38:25 AM
- @smoss Is that translated anywhere yet? Those images are better than any of the reports I found. Some of those cladding flaws look pretty big to me.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:39:08 AM
- @lillymunster To my knowledge, it does not exist in English translation. I agree with your take on the pics, there appears to be multiple versions on these reports (primarily from tepco's end). Will gather and post the variated docs I have found.by smoss 7/17/2011 1:44:25 AM
TEPCO: "We apologise for the lack of significant measures against wind and rain," the official added."
I'm sure they'll "deeply regret" it in a few days.by RadioGuy 7/17/2011 1:44:30 AM- @smoss this seems incredibly more detailed than tepco's. I think there are core loading charts in there two and seemed to represent that 80 assemblies load you were looking into.by lillymunster 7/17/2011 1:46:13 AM
- @lilly it was .5 the other day. The recent chart posted here showing historic background levels listed Hiroshima Prefecture as .12by bo 7/17/2011 1:47:24 AM
- @RadioGuy, thanks.
So, if the civil authorities come up short, the civil thing to do is for the people to take action themselves, through self-help protective measures or simple preemptive evacuation, etc.by ALBLEE 7/17/2011 1:48:50 AM 
@bo .8 uSv/hr seems scary high.by Bobby1 7/17/2011 1:49:49 AM- I have been getting readings of .4 to .5 almost daily.
[@Bo, is this counter sited at your place? Or at some institutional monitoring station? Thanks. -alblee]
@ALBLEE this is my own counter that I use in my home. So I may not be using it correctly.by bo 7/17/2011 1:51:09 AM
www.pref.fukushima.jp This next one is tricky to translate, but appears to be dated 5/22/2010 www.tepco.co.jp Tokyo Electric Power Co., Inc. Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 3
Soundness of the long-term storage MOX fuel in new
According to evaluation results
(Draft)
Year Month 1990 2
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
www.nisa.meti.go.jp
by smoss 7/17/2011 1:56:10 AM
@lillymunster Yes, they are still referencing 2 loads of 32 FAs a piece, and they that 3rd load of 80 FAs to bring Fukushima I - 3 to a full 1/3 core loading of MOX. Will continue to plow through translation and perhaps cross reference and compare multiple sources now. Warning: Broken link in post below!
by smoss 7/17/2011 1:58:54 AM
Curious if @borrrden is monitoring scribble at the moment ... Would be good to know what the sense is at the prefectures near Tohoku vis-a-vis approaching typhoon.
by ALBLEE 7/17/2011 1:59:09 AM
they = then
by smoss 7/17/2011 1:59:14 AM
Peak outdoor reading .6 uSv/h
by bo 7/17/2011 2:02:07 AM
Kansai Electric to shut down reactor
Kansai Electric Power Company says it will temporarily shut down a reactor at its nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture due to trouble in an emergency cooling system. The reactor is one of 19 currently operating in Japan.
Kansai Electric said pressure dropped inside a tank in a system that injects water into a reactor in the event of an emergency at around 11PM on Friday at the Ohi nuclear plant.
This made it impossible to inject water properly into the No.1 reactor.
The company said it will manually shut down the reactor to look into the cause of the problem, although pressure returned to normal in about one hour.
The utility plans to suspend the reactor's operation at around 9 PM on Saturday.
It says the trouble caused no leak of radioactive substances to the outside.
Kansai Electric has 11 nuclear reactors, of which 4 are now offline due to regular inspections. 2 more reactors will start undergoing regular inspections next week.
The firm says stoppage of the No.1 reactor would make this summer's limited power situation even tighter.
Kansai Electric says it will try to generate more electricity as well as asking its customers and the public to lower demand for power by around 15 percent.
Saturday, July 16, 2011 14:01 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
Kansai Electric Power Company says it will temporarily shut down a reactor at its nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture due to trouble in an emergency cooling system. The reactor is one of 19 currently operating in Japan.
Kansai Electric said pressure dropped inside a tank in a system that injects water into a reactor in the event of an emergency at around 11PM on Friday at the Ohi nuclear plant.
This made it impossible to inject water properly into the No.1 reactor.
The company said it will manually shut down the reactor to look into the cause of the problem, although pressure returned to normal in about one hour.
The utility plans to suspend the reactor's operation at around 9 PM on Saturday.
It says the trouble caused no leak of radioactive substances to the outside.
Kansai Electric has 11 nuclear reactors, of which 4 are now offline due to regular inspections. 2 more reactors will start undergoing regular inspections next week.
The firm says stoppage of the No.1 reactor would make this summer's limited power situation even tighter.
Kansai Electric says it will try to generate more electricity as well as asking its customers and the public to lower demand for power by around 15 percent.
Saturday, July 16, 2011 14:01 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 7/17/2011 2:02:16 AM
Plutonium and americium in the air around los alamos www.nmenv.state.nm.us
by lillymunster 7/17/2011 2:05:06 AM
Have to go ... Sunday chores await. Cheers, @ALL.
by ALBLEE 7/17/2011 2:21:47 AM
@ALBLEE good seeing you again! :-)
by lillymunster 7/17/2011 2:22:28 AM
Later @ALBLEE
by bo 7/17/2011 2:23:55 AM
A fascinating article about how people are talking about this accident.
"Fukushima and Cultural Superiority" the-diplomat.com
"Why are these culturalist arguments such a problem? First, by attributing the causes of a manmade disaster to national culture (itself a debatable term), it reduces that event to something in some way unique to that nation. Followed to its logical conclusion, such an argument seems to be suggesting that certain disasters could only happen in a particular country because of its ‘culture,’ and so by extension they could never happen in other countries.
Second, the classification of certain national cultures as in some ways ‘bad’ necessarily leads to the assumption that ‘better’ national cultures exist. This creates a hierarchy of cultures, and can lead to paternalistic thinking that the ‘superior’ cultures should guide and teach those deemed lacking. It’s no surprise, then, that Attali concludes that there is ‘an urgent need to establish a global consortium of nations and experts with the competence to intervene to stem the damage,’ and that the Japanese ‘must accept such intervention as quickly as possible without feeling offended or humiliated by our insistence.’
"Fukushima and Cultural Superiority" the-diplomat.com
"Why are these culturalist arguments such a problem? First, by attributing the causes of a manmade disaster to national culture (itself a debatable term), it reduces that event to something in some way unique to that nation. Followed to its logical conclusion, such an argument seems to be suggesting that certain disasters could only happen in a particular country because of its ‘culture,’ and so by extension they could never happen in other countries.
Second, the classification of certain national cultures as in some ways ‘bad’ necessarily leads to the assumption that ‘better’ national cultures exist. This creates a hierarchy of cultures, and can lead to paternalistic thinking that the ‘superior’ cultures should guide and teach those deemed lacking. It’s no surprise, then, that Attali concludes that there is ‘an urgent need to establish a global consortium of nations and experts with the competence to intervene to stem the damage,’ and that the Japanese ‘must accept such intervention as quickly as possible without feeling offended or humiliated by our insistence.’
by bo 7/17/2011 2:24:25 AM
@all Various Tables, Graphs and Charts in this document have been omitted?/blanked out? Article number (one Fukushima 3-01-2)
In the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 3
Inspection report relating to evaluate the soundness of the new MOX fuel that long-term storage
May 31, 2010
Tokyo Electric Power Co., Inc www.nisa.meti.go.jp
In the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 3
Inspection report relating to evaluate the soundness of the new MOX fuel that long-term storage
May 31, 2010
Tokyo Electric Power Co., Inc www.nisa.meti.go.jp
by smoss 7/17/2011 2:24:57 AM
@smoss The PDF appears to also be images so you can't cut and paste text to translate. Any idea what that chart is referring to? IT appears to be units 1-4? Related to MOX??? What else could it be charting things like that in a 1-4 manner?
by lillymunster 7/17/2011 2:28:43 AM
hudebnik
UKVal
Jonathan Keebler
Oliver (ScribbleLive)
kaykodh
Markfm
Angie
Mid Valley
Matt (ScribbleLive)
George Gibb
PKelley
dean
Deb
Pedro Jesus
IanGoddard