Japan Earthquake

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@all Hello again!
by smoss 7/18/2011 3:20:43 AM

@RadioGuy there seems to be no shortage of Japanese boy bands. I find this disturbing. :-)
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 3:23:29 AM

@RadioGuy ty
by bo 7/18/2011 3:24:08 AM

I need therapy now. I blame both of you. :-) www.dailymotion.com
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 3:26:06 AM

I've long had this fantasy of a boy band elected Prime Minister who govern together. At my university here, there are groups of boys, and of girls, in front of the big windows practicing their in sync dancing as they dream the dream.
by bo 7/18/2011 3:28:10 AM

@bo Maybe we could replace congress with the Monkees? :-)
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 3:29:30 AM

@lillymunster you're too late. The clowns were sent in 30 years ago.
by bo 7/18/2011 3:35:45 AM

The Monkees would bring a gravitas that Congress has been missing for a long time.
by bo 7/18/2011 3:37:27 AM

@bo so true.
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 3:40:11 AM

I'm out. Off to dream (or have nightmares) about Katy Perry, Japanese boy bands, city bikes and radiation..:-)
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 3:54:15 AM

Nite Lilly.
by Mid Valley 7/18/2011 4:09:07 AM

Goodnight lilly. Back in a bit all.
by bo 7/18/2011 4:11:45 AM

@lillymunster LoL ... sorry ;)
by RadioGuy 7/18/2011 4:52:17 AM

Hi guys.
by jo 7/18/2011 6:16:28 AM

Hi @jo
by bo 7/18/2011 6:18:09 AM

No earthquakes in Japan for the last 2 days? Have not seen that since this all began.
by ariadne 7/18/2011 7:31:23 AM

@ariadne they are pausing to watch the typhoon hit.
by bo 7/18/2011 8:04:24 AM

g'morning gonna hunt down the kettle
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 8:12:47 AM

ikrockhopper Itsumi Kakefuda
More 'cesium' beef (as expected...). 411 more cows raised with radiocesium-contaminated hay appeared to be in the market already.
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 8:25:26 AM

from rockhopper Japan have reached agreement with Mongolia for Mongolia to sell the Japanese uranium and store Japans radioactive waste . The IAEA are providing 'technical support'
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 9:52:42 AM

www.tepco.co.jp

Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 3 Turbine Building Installation Work of Roof
(pictured on July 18, 2011): www.tepco.co.jp
by es via Tepco.co.jp 7/18/2011 9:56:46 AM

@es thankyou where have those new areas of damage come from ? have they taken those areas out to sit the roof piece in do you think?
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 9:59:43 AM

@elainekirk Hmm, I wondered about that. Dunno, not a very neat job if so!
by es 7/18/2011 10:04:15 AM

Ah it is old damage there are three 'skid marks' what shot over the concrete like that ?
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:11:41 AM

so the bigger hole wasn't something 'landing' it was something that ploughed into the roof
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:12:56 AM

and the second one is something that ploughed across and somehow left a 'blast' hole on it's journey
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:14:37 AM

looking at that pic it looks like the roof is made up of rectangular slabs
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:17:21 AM

@elainekirk Thanks, yes some damage was clearly there earlier, though possibly less severe initially - looks like the holes may have increased in size since that pic. I can see how, unless they're covered up, a strong wind could easily make them bigger still and result in worse damage. Hope the temp cover is well bolted down.
by es 7/18/2011 10:27:39 AM

@es looking at those skid marks and the damage to those roof edges i would question whether the structure can bear the weight of a partial roof , it is going to put a lot of strain on it
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:31:12 AM

@elainekirk The temp cover doesn't strike me has particluarly weighty or strong - more of a patch to keep the worst of the water out and to prevent further fraying of the edges of the holes. I should think securing it tightly will be the fun part - any slack and it's likely to work itself free under the extremely windy conditions they're expecting.
by es 7/18/2011 10:36:22 AM

@es this is what I think too I have to go out daughter requires retail therapy but hopefully another mod is around
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 10:57:47 AM

RBeaner
by RBeaner 7/18/2011 11:01:10 AM

we don't appear to have any worker tweets through yet so assume they are working late if someone could keep an eye on twitter.com!/ikrockhopper tweets
hi @rbeaner
by elainekirk 7/18/2011 11:02:34 AM

@ES TROUBLE on phone, but i think everyone involved now is doing the best their engineering minds can do
by RBeaner 7/18/2011 11:03:12 AM

Sunday, July 17, 2011
PM Kan: "Step 2 Will Be Brought Forward So That You Can Go Home"

"Extend and Pretend" continues in Japan, getting beyond delusional particularly in light of more evidence of widespread radiation contamination.

Prime Minister Kan, who survived the vote of no confidence and is determined more than ever to stay on (or dissolve the lower house and hold a general election with "beyond nuke" message, as some analysts have suggested, to appeal to the Japanese who are increasingly anti-nuke), now promises the 12 heads of the municipalities around Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant that completion of the "step 2" of the so-called "roadmap" will be expedited so that their people can go home.

What is the "step 2"? It is to bring the reactors to a "cold shutdown".

Don't laugh. And don't ask how they can bring three broken reactors which may not even have the fuel (or corium) inside to a "cold shutdown". Technically, a "cold shutdown" assumes a sound RPV and containment, not a RPV with a hole or two, Containment Vessel with a hole or two, and the reactor building top blown to smithereens. They will probably have to change the very definition of "cold shutdown" to claim they will have achieved the "cold shutdown". ex-skf.blogspot.com
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:09:55 AM

I think they fully have a plan to attach the secondary roof to.the building (Turbine 3). All that they have done at daiichi for a couple of months, HAS REPRESENTED incremental progress. This doesn't relieve them of their earlier mistakes, but tjey are making progress.
by RBeaner 7/18/2011 11:11:26 AM

A very good question "Don't laugh. And don't ask how they can bring three broken reactors which may not even have the fuel (or corium) inside to a "cold shutdown". Technically, a "cold shutdown" assumes a sound RPV and containment, not a RPV with a hole or two, Containment Vessel with a hole or two, and the reactor building top blown to smithereens."
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:17:54 AM

@RBeaner Yes, I agree. The work is painfully slow, and the continuing adverse weather conditions and seismic stresses are inconvenient distractions to say the least. Must say I've been on the whole impressed by the day-to-day on-the-ground planning and management of such a large-scale, horrendous and unprecedented emergency situation.
by es 7/18/2011 11:21:11 AM

Goshi Hosono, state minister in charge of handling the nuclear accident, said Sunday that ''Step 1'' or the first phase of work to bring the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant under control was completed on Sunday as scheduled.
''We believe Step 1 of stably cooling (the reactors) and eliminating risks of a hydrogen explosion has been achieved,'' Hosono said in a TV program, referring to the road map and time schedule issued April 17 by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. mdn.mainichi.jp
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:21:18 AM

Sunday, July 17, 2011
Crisis stabilization effort making progress: Tepco
No-go zone easing may be moved up
Kyodo
FUKUSHIMA — Prime Minister Naoto Kan and Goshi Hosono, state minister in charge of dealing with the nuclear crisis, met Saturday with the leaders of municipalities near the crippled Fukushima No. 1 power plant and said the government may look to ease the 20-km no-entry zone terms when the radiation-spewing reactors are stabilized.
According to participants, the two also said the government hopes to move forward the schedule for stabilizing the reactors from January as previously planned. search.japantimes.co.jp
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:21:52 AM

Morning all! (afternoon - evening etc)
by lillymunster 7/18/2011 11:26:49 AM

@lillymunster Good Morning
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:29:36 AM

We all have see this video before. But I was surprise to see it publish here : "Radioactive materials spewed out from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant reached North America soon after the meltdown and were carried all the way to Europe, according to a simulation by university researchers.

The computer simulation by researchers at Kyushu University and the University of Tokyo, among other institutions, calculated dispersal of radioactive dust from the Fukushima plant beginning at 9 p.m. on March 14, when radiation levels around the plant spiked." mdn.mainichi.jp
by Majj 7/18/2011 11:37:23 AM

@lillymunster Hi
by es 7/18/2011 11:38:02 AM

Tokyo gov’t finds iodine-131 levels up to quadruple cesium levels in water reclamation centers: Detailed measurements of the site boundary and radioactivity contained in the sludge dewatering of sludge and sludge ash and the Center for Water Reclamation Plant in the process of sludge in each of the Tokyo Metropolitan Sewerage Authority (cardinal) in the middle of the space radiation dose · site you know the measurements.
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by Majj 7/18/2011 11:44:36 AM