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  • I will check
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 5:55:13 PM

  • @smoss greetings and v.wise words :)
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 5:57:21 PM

  • @Edano was just looking for rpv and came across this I think you have to laugh or you would cry it is in relation to the whistleblowing that resulted in them being shut down in '02
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 6:01:55 PM

  • @elainekirk Hi! :-)
    by smoss 7/22/2011 6:03:37 PM

  • @elainekirk :) sounds like in the army.
    by Edano 7/22/2011 6:03:47 PM

  • yesterday a german woman won a trial before the european court of human rights. she was fired for whistleblowing.
    by Edano 7/22/2011 6:05:32 PM

  • I like theway they take responsibility for their actions
    " Chairman, Hiroshi Araki, will resign and will be appointed as an Advisor (as of
    September 30).
    - President, Nobuya Minami, will resign and will be appointed as an Advisor (by
    mid-October).
    - Executive Vice President, Toshiaki Enomoto, will resign (as of September 30).
    - Counsellors, Gaishi Hiraiwa and Shoh Nasu, will resign and will be appointed
    as Advisors (as of September 30)"
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 6:05:37 PM

  • english.kyodonews.jp

    Kumagai sorry over Twitter uproar
    Saki Kumagai, defender on Japan's national women's soccer team, speaks with reporters in Saitama, near Tokyo, on July 22, 2011, to offer an apology over the Twitter uproar her night out with university students has caused. She converted the winning penalty in the Women's World Cup final against the United States in Germany on July 17. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp

    japanese society ....

    by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 7/22/2011 6:08:19 PM

  • @all A this point, I'm struggling to determine if this contains new footage or not. Have we seen SFP #3 from this perspective? and I definately don't remember actually seeing work being done to remove debris from around #3

    by smoss 7/22/2011 6:09:00 PM

  • looks new to me @smoss
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 6:18:51 PM

  • @edano this may be of interest I am still looking
    The “healthiness” of Reactor Pressure Vessel (RPV)’s head parts at PWRs should be another focal point. As mentioned earlier in this article, replacements of the core shroud were carried out as a “preventive measure,” which means to ensure the “healthiness” of the shroud, at Fukushima I-1, I-3, and I-5. However, TEPCO never reported to the agency that there were cracks in these shrouds. Several electric companies (Kansai Electric Power Co., Shikoku Electric Power Co., and Kyushu Electric Power Co.) have replaced their 11 units of reactor vessel head (all of them are PWRs) as a “preventive measure”. Did these reactor vessel heads have any defects at the replacements?
    cnic.jp
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 6:38:28 PM

  • good article on harmonic frquencies www.ndt.net
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 6:43:41 PM

  • daiichi was expected to operate for 60yrs IAEA 2002
    In 1996, MITI has launched a program to provide a conceptual framework by which the
    integrity of ageing nuclear power plants are examined and addressed, using three plants
    that have been in operation since 1970/71 (Mihama 1, Tsuruga 1 and Fukushima Daiichi-
    1) as pilot projects. This programme assumes that the plants will operate for 60 years.
    (IAEA 2002)
    docs.google.com
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 7:05:57 PM

  • this could be useful to the techi's www.iaea.org
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 7:11:44 PM

  • @elainekirk Going to leave you by your lonesome for awhile...great posts!
    by smoss 7/22/2011 7:13:48 PM

  • @smoss later ty for yr company
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 7:18:36 PM

  • New MOX processing plant being built in South Carolina !!! www.nytimes.com
    by MD 7/22/2011 8:28:48 PM

  • Here's the link: realitycheck.no-ip.info
    by MD 7/22/2011 8:28:53 PM

  • New website of ALL NUCLEAR NEWS, all the time:
    by MD 7/22/2011 8:28:55 PM

  • @MD ty I will go browse when I have finished trawling :)
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 8:46:08 PM

  • back, what's new?
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 8:50:55 PM

  • Reading the MOX plant article. "After studying a range of options, the Clinton administration decided to build a mox fuel plant to dispose of a portion of the plutonium, awarding a contract to a consortium now called Shaw Areva Mox Services."

    Go figure Areva wants to bring that over here. I hope they finally cut the project before we waste more money on it. Would anyone in their right mind switch to MOX after what happened at FUKU??
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 8:53:49 PM

  • @lillymunster edano asked about previous damage to #1 rpv and I found the doc I posted suggesting that though the shroud replacements take place the lids remain and could be a weak spot at least thats how I read it
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:16:30 PM

  • @elainekirk Only the inner shroud is replace. The thick steel RPV and cap are original. They take a lot of strain and embrittlement. It is well known that the years of being bombarded with radiation seriously degrades the steel and there is no way to replace it. This is why the plants were given 30-40 year life spans. NONE of these old plants should be allowed to continue. THey keep finding failing steel all over the plants. Hamaoka has/had this problem. Fuku has it. Many US plants have it. Crumbling steam lines but hey, why not give them another 20 years to run.
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 9:24:13 PM

  • There was some damage to #1, the steam dryer was the item in question in the 02 whistleblower incident and I think there may have been an RPV cap problem in that issue also.
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 9:24:51 PM

  • @Edano are you around
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:28:01 PM

  • @lillymunster the iaea link i gave said 60yrs
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:28:26 PM

  • CHecking out the IAEA link. The life span of these plants was max 40 years declared at the time of construction. The added 20 years is a new development based on god knows what.
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 9:30:58 PM

  • Okay, the IAEA doc is the plan to suck another 20 years of life out of the older power plants. This talks about the whole overhaul process they did on 1 etc. when they do/did the shroud replacement they put some new parts in for those things on the list in the IAEA document.

    I see these overhauls as largely smoke and mirrors because while they update some critical parts it ignores other critical parts like older steam lines and pipes that are encased in concrete, pipes in general because there has not been any sort of complete re-pipe program on old reactors. Also the RPV can't be replace so it is still old and brittle. I really have to wonder if any of the RPVs split or broke when they hit super high pressures now that we know venting didn't work at most.

    How would the brittleness factor work with the quake? Would it make things break or crack easier? Would a pipe connection be more prone to breaking off?
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 9:36:21 PM

  • @elainekirk : yup, back again :)
    by Edano 7/22/2011 9:37:50 PM

  • @lillymunster I have a doc I downloaded it is clean but is over the limit for google docs so would you like a copy mailed or the addy to download your own
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:38:32 PM

  • @Edano www.rskonline.de any use to you sir?
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:38:54 PM

  • @elainekirk can you email it?
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 9:40:28 PM

  • @elainekirk : the first two documents are the recommendation of the ethic commission on how to abandon nuke power that mrs merkel ordered.
    by Edano 7/22/2011 9:41:57 PM

  • but i cannot click the links :(
    you sent me the print version.
    by Edano 7/22/2011 9:43:05 PM

  • @Edano @lillymunster will do Lilly Edano OH I will go try
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:43:28 PM

  • @Edano ah it just came up in my search this is the first link www.rskonline.de if you tell me which you are interested in I will see if I can find them I got that one by copy/pasting the title into google
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:46:34 PM

  • @elainekirk www.rskonline.de
    www.rskonline.de [english]
    by Edano 7/22/2011 9:52:21 PM

  • My browser crashed during a search, too many tabs open, I suppose. I got my wisdom from this document about regs for BWR/4: www.iaea.org I checked around and the PRESSURE AND TEMPERATURE LIMITS REPORT, or PTLR for short, seems no different for BWR/3.
    by Peter Melzer 7/22/2011 9:52:38 PM

  • @Edano you have too much faith in my ability to comprehend technical :) but thankyou for fndinding the link versions I am sure you techi's will find anything lurking in them:)
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 9:57:23 PM

  • hmm ... the catalytic "recombinators" that are supposed to neutralize hydrogen in nukes can cause hydrogen explosions themselves. www.rskonline.de
    by Edano 7/22/2011 9:59:38 PM

  • @Edano Um, yikes?
    by lillymunster 7/22/2011 10:02:31 PM

  • @Edano well thats dandy isn't it
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 10:02:32 PM

  • @lillymunster the doc is 12206k is that ok
    by elainekirk 7/22/2011 10:03:52 PM

  • www.rskonline.de hydrogen can ignite autonomously at temperatures >650°.
    by Edano 7/22/2011 10:11:52 PM

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