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@dean I have thought there was a disconnect sometimes where they treat the reactors like they are still viable buildings rather than disaster sites.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:11:03 PM
exactly @ lilly.. TEPCO will fight to say they are still functional buildings to be used for power production after cleanup... that keeps the liablity issue clean for themby dean 7/29/2011 2:12:18 PM- I don't think the powers that be in Japan realize that all of these things, ignoring safety, not responding properly in all aspects of the disaster do more damage to Japan as a brand than the actual disaster.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:12:43 PM
- @ lilly .. did you know there is a drink I saw on google search called. the NUCLEAR KAMAKAZEby dean 7/29/2011 2:13:03 PM
- @dean Oh my.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:13:22 PM
- TRUE @ lillyby dean 7/29/2011 2:13:30 PM
- 1 oz vodka
1 oz triple sec
2 oz sweet and sour mix
1/2 oz Maui® Blue Hawaiian schnapps
Read more: Nuclear Kamikaze recipe www.drinksmixer.comby dean 7/29/2011 2:13:49 PM - @Dean, it even glows blue.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:15:00 PM
- by dean 7/29/2011 2:15:47 PM
- yes,,, crazyby dean 7/29/2011 2:15:56 PM
- that link is on the typhoon storm hitting japan nowby dean 7/29/2011 2:16:09 PM
- With winds as fast as 198km per hour, the storm has prompted workers at the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant to take safety measures.by dean 7/29/2011 2:16:47 PM
- Emergency workers reduced the amount of cooling water to inject into reactor numbers one and two out of fears that rain water may increase contaminated water levels as the typhoon comes," said TEPCO spokesperson Ai Tanaka.
"We are also making preparations to protect the facility as high waves are expected."by dean 7/29/2011 2:17:19 PM 
@Lilly I just looked it up...the torrential rains were due west of the plants in the more mountainous areas. They are very contaminated as well. It will be interesting to see how it affects drinking water.by LM 7/29/2011 2:20:26 PM- www.sott.net more on preparations at fukushima for the stormsby dean 7/29/2011 2:20:42 PM
- @LM one possibility is that all of the HOT SPOTS that have been identified up to this point may relocated to other spots, get in to storm drains that may lead to ponds etc. it's just horribleby dean 7/29/2011 2:22:04 PM
gm everyone, in my mind the inaccessibility to critical valves is a fundamental design flaw. The operators should be able to actuate the valves that are critical to emergency shutdowns from a safe distance (via stem extensions, chains etc.). These days accessibility for robotic tools could be planned in. The submersibles tending to the blowout preventer in the Gulf come to mind.by Peter Melzer 7/29/2011 2:22:19 PM- The utility is also studying ways to stop radioactive substances deposited on debris and buildings from being washed away by rain and flowing into the sea via gutters. @ all,,, the time to plan for this is.. WHEN THE STORM HITS? HMMM something wrong with that logicby dean 7/29/2011 2:23:18 PM
- gm @ Peter nice seeing you inby dean 7/29/2011 2:23:26 PM
- @dean Typhoon Ma-On hit a week and a half ago. It looks like they might be getting another one soon though.by LM 7/29/2011 2:23:46 PM
- it's horrible LMby dean 7/29/2011 2:24:09 PM
- I've been working and not keeping up but now will have more time LM...by dean 7/29/2011 2:24:42 PM
- Ack. Does anyone have the tracking page for this new one?by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:25:09 PM
- @ Peter, where I worked we had those reach rod valves and, controls in a remote locationby dean 7/29/2011 2:25:11 PM
- No stress, Dean! It's the same for me. I sincerely hope they're monitoring the watersheds and reservoirs!by LM 7/29/2011 2:25:51 PM
- @ Peter, it seems to me, unless I'm not looking at things right, the could go to the MSIV's and tie in water there to supply to the reactor vessel...by dean 7/29/2011 2:26:15 PM
- not sure why the spray system is such a big deal to get into...by dean 7/29/2011 2:26:50 PM
@Lilly This is what Majj posted on the new weather system. icons-ecast.wunderground.com
by LM via Icons-ecast.wunderground 7/29/2011 2:28:10 PM- from what I saw, like lilly said.. the piping system is all bent and damaged from the accident which means they have to cut and probably weld or hook up piping somehow, ,at a huge exposure to workers.. I"ll be some of those workers come to sign up for work expecting a nice income for their families all to find out that they can only work for 3 days until they hit their limit and have to return home with no benefitsby dean 7/29/2011 2:28:43 PM
- be-betby dean 7/29/2011 2:29:03 PM
- I have to wonder if some of the unions could get involved. Certain unions have the capacity to get involved in international problems involving workers.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:40:59 PM
- @dean, we saw this picture taken by a robot yesterday in which they were inspecting a valve that seems to control core sprayers. It had a huge wheel high up on a platform next to the primary containment concrete wall.by Peter Melzer 7/29/2011 2:41:06 PM
- probably in the higher rad zone too @ Peter, that's exactly why I'd look for other lines going inby dean 7/29/2011 2:42:41 PM
- I am amazed that they haven't core drilled in to get a peak at the corium areas at this pointby dean 7/29/2011 2:43:18 PM
- @ lilly, how broad are the tweeters that are workers there or phones etc getting word out to what's happening?by dean 7/29/2011 2:44:11 PM
- Is there a longer projection on the tropical storm that puts it at the plant? I know that is the logical progression but want to put something on the group site.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:44:37 PM
- @dean There is a pretty good contingent of workers tweeting. They talk mainly about the work conditions and were how the issue of doses got out.
by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:46:25 PM - Thanks have been quiet lately, workers said they were exhausted and didn't have the energy to do anything off work.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:47:06 PM
- twitter.com!/fukushima_actu is this one of the sites?by dean 7/29/2011 2:50:01 PM
- @Dean, that one is a user that reports Fukushima information similar to what we do. But you will see things feed through there. Elaine and I can get you a list of who to follow that are workers or give out worker info on Twitter.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:56:31 PM
- @Lilly I just did a little search about TS Muifa..I think it's still too early to say where it will hit. The current projected path has it going close to the most southern part of Japan. This page has some computer models... www.wunderground.comby LM 7/29/2011 2:58:09 PM
- @LM As we start seeing it take shape if it looks like it will hit Honshu we can do what we did last time, set up a weather article on the site and update it with web cams, new weather data etc.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 2:59:31 PM
- I would like that @ lillyby dean 7/29/2011 3:04:58 PM
- @Lilly That sounds great.by LM 7/29/2011 3:09:15 PM
- @dean I will email you a list of my twitter people and will ask Elaine to give you hers. Email me if you need help getting it going etc.by lillymunster 7/29/2011 3:09:38 PM
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