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  • but we are blind.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 5:57:44 PM

  • Doing something different or new (like putting solar panels on your house) is practically an act of rebellion. At least in the US
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:00:13 PM

  • @Edano We are blinded.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:01:11 PM

  • @lillymunster I believe it's gaining traction and not seen as rebellious as it once was, at least not around these parts.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:02:49 PM

  • @joniver I see it very slowly changing. A small company that puts solar panels on tractor-trailer trailers to help power the refrigeration unit on them just opened last month. A new company installing solar and small wind on houses opened up recently. There has been a very resistant and vocal opposition to renewable energy around here. It is completely political, far right political factions are totally against renewables, conservation or anything other than massive wasting of fossil fuels and nuclear power.

    So people will try to make headway and someone heavily against it will put up a big fight about it. So seeing companies pop up is a good sign the general population is accepting the idea.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:10:15 PM

  • Virtual exhibit shows off more than 100 renewable energy projects
    Solar, wind, bioenergy, geothermal, and other types of renewable energy projects are coming together under one roof in the form of a new online renewable energy platform. Hosted by the electronics exhibitions project EXPO21XX, the renewable energy platform showcases ongoing projects in both the industry and academia.

    www.expo21xx.com
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:10:55 PM

  • Oh check this out. An actual study on the uptake of radioactive iodine into cows milk. www.cancer.gov
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:12:10 PM

  • @lillymunster I love the idea of solar panels tractor-trailers. Once people and businesses realize there's money to be made and saved using renewable energy it will only become a matter of time before the worm turns.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:15:49 PM

  • Interesting tidbit of all this Hanford research. Radiation study is almost exclusively radioactive iodine. Nothing on cesium at all.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:16:32 PM

  • @lillymunster i see the US in big future economic problems if their attitude toward renewables persists. people will be suprised to see that nuke power is very expensive in reality.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:16:50 PM

  • @joniver In the long run we need to find other non-fossil fuel options for power and things like solar/geothermal are part of the solution. There are some power grid stability considerations for voltage and grid frequency (50 or 60 Hz) that are easier to do with a smaller number of big power sources. Its a lot harder to sync 100,000s of solar power systems when they feed into the grid. In the US they are getting ready to conduct some experiments on the power grid, www.msnbc.msn.com
    by RonD 8/10/2011 6:16:56 PM

  • @joniver my biggest roadblock right now has been cash. I don't want to finance doing the work but feel more pressure to get something in place before winter with the way things have been going politically and consumer prices for everything going up.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:18:00 PM

  • @RonD however, in germany it works.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:19:32 PM

  • @lillymunster Oh that little thing called cash...I hear ya.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:19:35 PM

  • @Edano In works in the US also if there are a small number of solar systems feeding less than 1-5% of the total grid power. Its different if lots (100,000s) of solar systems are sending a lot of power to the grid. I'm sure the problems can be solved.
    by RonD 8/10/2011 6:22:45 PM

  • it is clear that we need different grids for decentral DC power generation. but let's not forget how hopelessly inefficient and morbid our today's grids are.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:25:17 PM

  • @RonD I believe eventually a new grid system will be worked out, think of all the jobs that would be created by the new Green Economy I heard so much about during the last presidential election.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:28:57 PM

  • the problem is the grids belong to the nuke dinos. so who wants to modernize them then ???
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:29:13 PM

  • the change will not take place without political interventions to back it up.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:30:41 PM

  • @joniver batteries are the biggest expense, of course added because we can't tie to the grid. At least they act as a back up since our power is unreliable. The new battery systems being developed in Japan are great but the price is too high for the average person to afford. If they can get them down into the $1000 range I think more people will look at buying them. I saw one retailing for $15 thousand. Makes a pile of old deep cell batteries look cheap. :-)
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:30:48 PM

  • @Edano the epic failure of the US just trying to raise the debt ceiling is proof of our current capability to do anything. I can hold out hope that someone will grow a spine and declare we need to make some national changes over here.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:32:04 PM

  • Both parties have too many corporate power tools in Washington, they own the toolbox.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:36:11 PM

  • @lillymunster I think the people of this country need to grow a spine. They are nothing without us.
    by joniver 8/10/2011 6:38:57 PM

  • @joniver you are correct on both counts. Right now we seem to have a case of paralysis while the car careens of a cliff.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 6:42:35 PM

  • @lillymunster For energy storage Daniel G. Nocera at MIT has a different option that uses efficient solar generation and storage of hydrogen to run a fuel cell for overnight power. Not sure when/if this will turn into a real option. web.mit.edu If you have the time (78 min or so) he give talks about his view on youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAkM_dV6CFs
    Not sure if I'd like to have a big tank of hydrogen in my basement.
    by RonD 8/10/2011 6:45:28 PM

  • right now we are living with big gas and gasoline tanks and we got used to them.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:47:40 PM

  • @Edano true, I have around 20 gallons of gas in my car. not sure how much hydrogen you need to run a normal house for 12-18 hours when the solar cells are not making power.
    by RonD 8/10/2011 6:50:34 PM

  • @RonD here many houses have huge diesel or gas (not gasoline) tanks for heating in the basements. they are quite safe, never heard of any explosion.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 6:58:16 PM

  • of course, a leaking hydrogen tank is more delicate ....
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:00:41 PM

  • @Edano yep when I think of hydrogen the Hindenburg comes to mind.
    by RonD 8/10/2011 7:01:47 PM

  • you can only admire nature. how the body produces and stores the energy, is simply brilliant and so effective.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:02:42 PM

  • @RonD : it had a really thin coating and a very huge tank. nevertheless it worked quite well. the hindenburg was just one of many.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:05:50 PM

  • Part of the problem with the Hindenburg was the aluminum powder paint they used. It was combustible
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 7:08:20 PM

  • but is also shows the problem with a lot of the energy storage/supply options. most of the time everything works fine, but every now and then things go VERY wrong. Like some Nuke plants or the San Bruno natural gas pipeline explosion that was about 20 miles from where I live.
    by RonD 8/10/2011 7:08:42 PM

  • the body stores the energy that is produced by burning the food in tiny molecules. it adds a phosphoric atom to an ADP (adenosinediphosphate) molecule and it becomes ATP (adenosinetriphosphate). ATP is catalytically and exothermically cracked again to ADP in the muscles or anywhere it is needed. i wonder why we cannot get something similar to work.
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:13:16 PM

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  • by Edano via 1.bp.blogspot 8/10/2011 7:19:42 PM

  • but humans tend to think they are more intelligent than nature ;)
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:24:42 PM

  • @Edano my daughter has IDDM so this fascinates me
    by elainekirk 8/10/2011 7:26:38 PM

  • @lillymunster : today we all know it was sabotage by the ancestor company of exxon (forgot the name).
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:27:25 PM

  • @elainekirk i'm sorry for that :(
    by Edano 8/10/2011 7:29:29 PM

  • $44 million to keep Ft. Calhoun from flooding www.omaha.com
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 7:32:34 PM

  • @lillymunster nuke is just so cheap
    by elainekirk 8/10/2011 7:33:12 PM

  • @Edano ???
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 7:33:21 PM

  • Another random factoid from Hanford research. DuPont corp was running the place during some of the worst releases and during bomb making for WWII.
    by lillymunster 8/10/2011 7:34:20 PM

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