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by bo 10/6/2011 5:52:43 AM

good morning world
by elainekirk 10/6/2011 8:03:25 AM

Gov't panel mulls interim goals on radiation doseA government panel is calling for Japan's one-millisievert annual radiation limit to be eased for the interim, saying it will be difficult to restrict exposure in some areas near the troubled Fukushima nuclear plant.
The environment is contaminated by radioactive substances in areas hit by fallout from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, causing concern that residents may be exposed to radiation for long periods.
The panel on radiation believes it will be difficult to keep their dose below the one-millisievert limit set by the government for normal times and proposed on Thursday to set an interim exposure target.
It says the target should be set between one and 20 millisieverts in line with recommendations by the International Commission for Radiological Protection.
The panel says the target should be lowered in steps as decontamination progresses.
It adds that targets could differ by region and that residents should have a voice in setting the targets.
The panel will wrap up its proposal at its next meeting, but its plan to ease the radiation exposure limit is expected to arouse controversy.
Thursday, October 06, 2011 15:39 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 10/6/2011 8:24:51 AM

ridiculous.
by Edano 10/6/2011 8:26:27 AM

IAEA reports incident at Belgian nuclear waste sitA UN nuclear agency says 3 people are being checked for radiation exposure at a nuclear-waste processing facility in Belgium.
The International Atomic Energy Agency made the announcement in Vienna on Wednesday.
It said an official from the agency was on a routine inspection of the facility, accompanied by a EURATOM inspector and a Belgoprocess official, when a contamination incident occurred.
The 3 have undergone external decontamination procedures and medical checks.
The agency also says Belgian authorities have reported that the incident area has been sealed off and no radiation has been released into the environment.
The operator of the processing facility says the 3 were checking a container of radioactive material when it fell to the floor and cracked.
Thursday, October 06, 2011 08:02 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 10/6/2011 8:28:14 AM


Gov't seeks local disposal of radiation-tainted waste within prefs.TOKYO, Oct. 6, Kyodo
The government seeks to dispose of waste stuffs contaminated with highly radioactive materials spewed from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant within the prefectures they are found in, so as to minimize their movement, its draft basic policy showed Thursday.
The policy, which the government aims to formalize at a Cabinet meeting in early November, takes over from conventional waste disposal and decontamination plans but will require assurances that the approach is safe and that unwanted contaminated waste does not pile up in neighborhoods to the concern of residents.
Working out the policy under a special law to deal with radioactive contamination that will take full effect next January, the government also seeks to set up interim storage facilities in prefectures where contaminated waste and soil are found ''in substantial quantities,'' and assume responsibility for them.
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 10/6/2011 8:30:49 AM

@Edano good morning
by elainekirk 10/6/2011 8:47:40 AM

PRIORITIZATION OF RECOMMENDED ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN IN
RESPONSE TO FUKUSHIMA LESSONS LEARNED
pbadupws.nrc.govEnclosure
docs.google.comby elainekirk 10/6/2011 10:25:13 AM

sorry couldnt find more news out now for awhile
by elainekirk 10/6/2011 11:21:15 AM

morning all. Have all the individual files from the FOIA uploaded. Will be making a links list of all and then try to do the big single file again.
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 11:43:22 AM

Not sure if this is the same as the magic pills for kids page that they pulled down. They list this as the ingredients in the "forumula 1" pills
Component
Calcium Lactate 800mg
Calcium lactate 800mg
Magnesium Oxide 300mg
Magnesium oxide 300mg
Sodium selenate 50micrograms
50micrograms Sodium selenite
Sodium molybdate 25micrograms
25micrograms sodium molybdate
plus cellulose etc bulking agents etc
Cellulose
The pills are listed at 5800 yen that equals $75.00 USD or 57 euros
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 12:06:07 PM

good morning to all
by dean 10/6/2011 12:27:53 PM

morning dean!
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 12:33:01 PM

@dean have all the individual files uploaded on the server, building a links list for those. Then try to upload the big file
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 12:39:14 PM

ty Lilly.. I can't wait you and elaine are both remarkable people
by dean 10/6/2011 12:42:11 PM

@Peter not sure on the ingredients, I am not familiar with either one. I copied the list as it was on the website.
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 12:46:37 PM

@ Peter, good morning,,, I wonder if JAPAN has the equivalent of the FDA for approving drugs or supplements. I could just imagine the scammers making up non studied drugs or supplements claiming recovery or protection from radio-isotopes and then sending them to japan to make a profit
by dean 10/6/2011 12:46:56 PM

I thought this article was interesting ---------"1945, at the time of the atomic bombing of Japan, Tatsuichiro Akizuki, M.D. was Director of the Department of Internal Medicine at St. Francis's Hospital in Nagasaki. Most patients in the hospital, located one mile from the center of the blast, survived the initial effects of the bomb, but soon after came down with symptoms of radiation sickness from the fallout that has been released.
Dr. Akizuki fed his staff and patients a strict diet of brown rice, miso and tamari soy soup, wakame, kombu and other seaweed, Hokkaido pumpkin, and sea salt and prohibited the consumption of sugar and sweets.
As a result, he saved everyone in his hospital, while many other survivors perished from radiation sickness.
Source: Tatsuichiro Akuziki, M.D. Nagasaki 1945, London Quarter books, 1981. (Brown rice, miso, Sea vegetables, Salt)
In 1968 Canadian researchers reported that sea vegetables contained a polysaccharide substance that selectively bound radioactive strontium and helped eliminate it from the body. In laboratory experiments, sodium alginate prepared from kelp, kombu, and other brown seaweeds off the Atlantic and pacific coasts was introduced along with strontium and calcium into rats. The reduction of radioactive particles in bone uptake, measured in the femur, reached as high as 80%, with little interference with calcium absorption. "
by dean 10/6/2011 12:50:14 PM

@Peter and @ian... I ran across this which was interesting
www.ratical.orgby dean 10/6/2011 12:52:33 PM

ty Mona just from the units one would assume that Chernobyl was much worse..
by dean 10/6/2011 1:21:14 PM

@Peter :-) You can get a huge jar of TUMS for about $3
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 1:52:53 PM

The magnesium in it is the laxative variety. If these pills catch on invest in toilet paper stocks in Japan. :-)
In medicine, magnesium oxide is used for relief of heartburn and sore stomach, as an antacid, magnesium supplement, and as a short-term laxative. It is also used to improve symptoms of indigestion. Side effects of magnesium oxide may include nausea and cramping.[5] In quantities sufficient to obtain a laxative effect, side effects of long-term use include enteroliths resulting in bowel obstruction.[6]
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 1:55:01 PM

@Mona, they are doing aerial readings and also from car readings and some other types. It is hard to keep track of what agency is doing what kind of reading in what location... This is some of the car readings by MEXT
radioactivity.mext.go.jp by lillymunster 10/6/2011 2:34:00 PM

back
by dean 10/6/2011 2:38:07 PM

@Vivre people in Tokyo have been saying they were finding radiation for months and getting dismissed. I wonder how this will play out now that the govt is admitting it. Grabbed the MEXT link, will get that added with Elaine's links probably tonight/tomorrow. Trying to finish up the NRC documents.
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 2:50:36 PM

@artnuke Hanford is still largely under govt. secrecy rules, they won't release everything they know. There is some data on hanford and cancer risk. The Mayak plant in Russia has more data out and they showed some pretty concerning health outcomes for their workers. I don't know if the working conditions at hanford/mayak play a role or we just have more data on Mayak
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 2:53:20 PM

@M.I.A. went and restarted Organize
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 3:14:01 PM

Comparisons Chernobyl vs Fukushima
After the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the most highly contaminated areas were defined as those with over 1,490 kiloBecquerels per square metre (kBq/m2) of caesium. Agricultural produce from soil with 550 kBq/m2 was destroyed. People living within 30 kilometres of the Fukushima plant have evacuated or been advised to stay indoors. Since March 18th, MEXT has repeatedly found caesium levels above 550 kBq/m2 in an area some 45 kilometres wide lying 30 to 50 kilometres north-west of the plant. The highest was 6,400 kBq/m2, about 35 kilometres away, while caesium reached 1,816 kBq/m2 in Nihonmatsu City and 1,752 kBq/m2 in the town of Kawamata, where iodine-131 levels of up to 12,560 kBq/m2 have also been measured. [New Scientist]
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www.businessinsider.comby dean 10/6/2011 3:24:13 PM

@Vivre I have seen complaints about that various places. The academic people taking samples and citizen testing is doing more of the close to ground sampling. A comprehensive survey of all 3 (air,surface,soil) done in an organized manner would be so much better. It is like nobody is in charge in Japan.
by lillymunster 10/6/2011 3:28:41 PM