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It is variable here bo it varies twixt wind/rain/sun....
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 1:55:05 AM

I will be attending an international symposium here next month held jointly by the IAEA and the local HICARE agency (this is a city agency that brings medical professionals to Hiroshima to study treatment for radiation exposures). Here is a link to the webpage: www.hicare.jp
by bo 10/8/2011 2:00:53 AM

The theme is "The effects of radiation on the human body"
by bo 10/8/2011 2:01:21 AM

@bo looks interesting. If they put any content on line after the symposium I would be interested in it.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:07:45 AM

@bo goodnes you will be able too give us insight
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:08:39 AM

Hopefully it won't be full of BS but will have some substance.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:09:09 AM

I'll be sure to post any online content access, and perhaps will video anything interesting
by bo 10/8/2011 2:09:33 AM

@bo I wouldnt hold out much hope of openness but just knowing how they are coniving will help
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:10:05 AM

well at least Yamashita isn't speaking. :-)
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:10:09 AM

Many of the folks from Hiroshima University have worked in Semipalatinsk, which must be the most radioactive place on earth.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:11:27 AM

That is, besides smaller more localized contaminations.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:11:54 AM

I think I saw something on this a while back that the site was now abandoned and there were worries of materials falling into the wrong hands?
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:19:47 AM

I think if we did a google map of all these sites plus npp's plus plus plus... or has it already been done somewhere
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:20:55 AM

@elainekirk I don't think I have seen a comprehensive map of both. There was a web video going around that showed all the worlds bomb tests and where all the fallout went. It was on a timeline.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:23:45 AM

The web video was done by a friend of mine, it is brilliant. And my collaborator and I who are working on the Global Hibakusha project have a Google map that has the locations of all of the atmospheric test sites.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:26:10 AM

@bo ah brilliant is it in the public domain
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:26:45 AM

No, we just made it for ourselves, but I can put it in the public domain.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:28:15 AM

I have been to Semipalatinsk and will be in the Polygon (the actual former test site) again next summer.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:29:12 AM

There is a lake there, called atomic lake, where an underground explosion created a crater that then filled with water. This lake is deadly.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:29:47 AM

@bo are the nuclear sites in Russia more dangerous than the ones in the US or is it just image management?
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:31:09 AM

@bo I cannot understand a world that seeks to eradicate polio, smallpox etc whilst creating genetic intergenerational mutations
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:32:00 AM

They are more dangerous. Although it is complicated. The Nevada site is very dangerous, but is large and people are kept from the badly contaminated areas. The US did terrible testing in the Marshall Islands but the atolls that are contaminated are now evacuated. The Soviets tested in many places, the worst was Semipalatinsk. Nothing has ever been done to clean it up, and there are lots of people living in terribly contaminated areas, gardening and fishing. My friend who is the Kazakh expert on the situation says that many people live in areas that have extremely high levels of radiation but nothing is being done to move them away, so they have lived there for decades. There is a museum in Semey (the modern Kazakh name for the former Semipalatinsk-the Russian name) that has a large number of deformed fetuses in jars. The rates of birth defects in the area is astronomical.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:34:46 AM

One of the reasons that Semipalatinsk is so bad is that the Soviets tested thermonuclear (h-bombs) there while the US tested them in the Marshalls. So all of the much high amount of contaminants for the US went into the ocean, while in Semey they have just stayed in the area, which is a populated area.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:36:16 AM

@elaine these are our natures right? Some of us try to help each other, while some of us irradiate each other.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:37:00 AM

If you are all not too squeamish I will post a picture of the famous (among geeks like me) Semipalatinsk cyclops. A poor fetus that has only one eye in the middle of it's forehead, that is shown at the museum in Semey.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:40:30 AM

@bo this is true I will go prepare for bed then view your picture
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:40:41 AM

Fetus with genetic damage from radiation from nuclear testing in Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan
by bo 10/8/2011 2:45:31 AM

Is that from the time of the bomb tests or later on?
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:47:07 AM

There are dozens more I could post of fetuses who were malformed from radiation in Semipalatinsk. Nothing is being done to help these people. The Kazakh govt. asks the Russians for money to clean the area up and they refuse. The Kazakh govt. has done nothing. I am working with groups in the area as part of my project.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:47:07 AM

Well the tests continued underground after the atmospheric test ban in 1963, but this is from after the test ban.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:47:45 AM

This was likely caused from residual radiation from the atmospheric tests. There are dozens more just like it, but not a cyclops. Plutonium and other elements are scattered all around this area.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:49:37 AM

lots has been focused on chernobyl for data to predict outcomes at fuku. I have to wonder of Mayak and Semiplatinsk would be more solid data models?

Do you know what the average annual rad dose for people there is?
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:50:07 AM