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It differs from village to village. I can ask my Kazakh friend for some data and get back to you in a few days.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:50:50 AM

There is a famous story of a former Soviet minister who came to Atomic Lake and told all of the people that it was perfectly safe, and to prove it he jumped and swam around and ordered his son to do the same. They were both dead within a few years.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:51:36 AM

@bo it would be helpful to understand the level of annual exposure that causes that level of deformity. It is so hard to get concrete information on exposure vs outcome
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:52:08 AM

@bo sounds like the UK reporter that went to the gates of Daiichi, got out of his truck and ran around in circles for a while. This was maybe a day before they exploded.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:53:17 AM

I will email my friend. He is a bit old and his english is spotty so it may take a week to have some data, but I will let you know
by bo 10/8/2011 2:53:27 AM

Thanks!
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:54:00 AM

My colleague has seen film of the guy swimming at IAEA archives, but I have never seen it. The locals tell the story and laugh.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:54:05 AM

No problem Lilly
by bo 10/8/2011 2:54:29 AM

@bo I cant find the words
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:55:48 AM

@elainekirk I know.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:56:37 AM

Of all of the places that I visit, I am most nervous when I went to Semey. And last year we didn't even go into the polygon. Next summer we will spend a whole week in the polygon and stay at Kurchatov, the former military city in the center of the test site.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:56:41 AM

As I've said before, this is difficult work to do and I advise everyone here to be sure to take time to not swirl down into horribleness of these issues, and of what humans subject each other to. We have to be strong to be able to work. That is why I always say that you have to take some time every day to think about things besides Fuksuhima or nuclear victimization.
by bo 10/8/2011 2:58:24 AM

translate.google.com
Just pulled this of twitter
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 2:59:19 AM

This reminded me of some turn of the century medical museum specimens I saw. They had a bunch of deformed fetuses. Makes me wonder if radium played a role since it was used as a tonic at the time.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 2:59:39 AM

@bo you are right and yet there is a feeling of guilt when I go do other things for awhile
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 3:00:25 AM

@elainekirk you shouldn't feel guilty. Think of it as preventing burnout. :-)
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 3:02:02 AM

@elainekirk that is totally understandable. I would advise you to look at these times as part of your work here. Taking care of yourself and keeping grounded are some of the most important things you can do in order to accomplish this work. It is part of how you stay strong. I've known many people who don't take the time to take care of themselves because of their devotion to these issues and they always burn out, yes, as lilly says. So doing other things is an essential part of your work here.
by bo 10/8/2011 3:02:47 AM

@lillymunster @bo I will take your advice and sleep now g'night take care
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 3:07:16 AM

Good night Elaine and take care. Thanks for all you do!
by bo 10/8/2011 3:07:53 AM

I shouldnt have looked and there isn't am english version so I will leave you all with what looks like tepco playing their get out of jail free card www.tepco.co.jp Japan version www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 3:11:56 AM

@elainekirk trying to determine if that is TEPCO actually getting out of providing information or not.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 3:19:04 AM

more on today's NRC meeting barnegat.patch.com
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 3:50:52 AM

U.S. urges citizens to avoid area around stricken Japanese reactors www.cnn.com The alert recommends that U.S. citizens stay away from any place within 20 kilometers (12 miles) from the plant. They are also being told to stay away from territory northwest of the power facility in what Japan has described as the "Deliberate Evacuation Area" and includes Iitate-mura, the Yamagiya district of Kawamata-machi, Katsurao-mura, Namie-machi and parts of Minamisoma.
by Mid Valley 10/8/2011 4:40:29 AM

'Minor' radioactive leak at Dounreay nuclear plant www.bbc.co.uk
by Mid Valley 10/8/2011 4:48:12 AM

bump
by bo 10/8/2011 7:22:55 AM

Expanded fallout map : radioactivity.mext.go.jp
by Ian 10/8/2011 8:55:46 AM

@Ian gmorning
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 9:34:40 AM

BBC News - 'Minor' radioactive leak at Dounreay nuclear plant bbc.in
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 9:39:20 AM

Tweet again. Nukaga (a LDP lawmaker): "the Fukushima accident is due to the lazy citizens who want comfortable life." t.co
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 9:44:45 AM

plans for the removal of hydrogen from pipes www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 10:12:26 AM

by elainekirk 10/8/2011 10:15:23 AM

www.tepco.co.jp
New tepco photo gallery collection here www.tepco.co.jp original hd shots here www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk via Tepco.co.jp 10/8/2011 10:20:01 AM

by elainekirk via Tepco.co.jp 10/8/2011 10:22:03 AM

is that pipe photoshopped?
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 10:44:50 AM

hello to all

Interview with Mr Busby about his 'real part' in his foundation for children (CBFCF).
Sounds like he (his name) is kind of missused to make money. His primary idea was to supply "a large number of proper radiation detection machines and make them available" but not the selling of pills he neither produces nor recommends.
"I proposed Calcium Lactate 800 mg and a Magnesium salt 300 mg in one pill, or better, two pills half the doses.
These can be bought anyway at health food shops.
I also proposed a Caesium Chloride 2 mg but I think they have not been made.
Nothing else should have my name on it."

Part 1 - fukushima-diary.com
Part2 - fukushima-diary.com

hint: the linked research might be worth keeping:
"Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq" - www.conflictandhealth.com
by Vivre 10/8/2011 10:59:30 AM

@Vivre what a load of rubbish he could get those websites shut down now if he didnt authorise them
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 11:00:50 AM

@elaine - agreed - he should have enough influence to do so.
Still I found the quoting worth as Ian and art-nuke had a closer look at the mechanism of the substances lately.
by Vivre 10/8/2011 11:09:22 AM

@Vivre excellent find I have passed it on to our friends in Japan as thhey dont always see these articles
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 11:30:06 AM

@elaine - I tried to find another top-view of unit 3 to compare to the new one. I found at least one where you can estimate the pipes: 4th big picture on cryptome.org (direct link: cryptome.org)

It seems to me that Tepco already removed a lot of bigger broken structures and that much of the small rubbish might have been washed downwards into the building by the heavy rains so it's hard to find matching elements.
by Vivre via Cryptome.org 10/8/2011 11:49:52 AM

ups - I didn't mean this pic to be posted but comparing those that I found again I need to withdraw that tepco is clearing the place* but one needs to meditate on the views to recognise what is shown.
(* but what are they doing with the crane at unit3 all the time?)

ot-tip: special photo-dedication to "Women Protest Worldwide" - cryptome.org
by Vivre 10/8/2011 12:50:44 PM

Morning! (afternoon-evening)
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 1:25:48 PM

@lillymunster greetings you have new photo dump
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 1:27:12 PM

@elainekirk I see that. :-) will give that a look. still pondering some sort of photo collection program for all these images I have piled everywhere.
by lillymunster 10/8/2011 1:30:41 PM

@lillymunster google picasa are quite generous with their free storage and putting in albums etc is easy on picasa
by elainekirk 10/8/2011 1:32:35 PM

Good morning, I found an interesting item in the September report of goj to IAEA. This table shows evidence for persistent fission in unit 2. Xenon-131m is a fission product with a half life of 12 days. i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 10/8/2011 1:35:30 PM