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@dean Hi Dean!
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:11:20 PM

That new FukuNews site, seems pretty exhaustive. It cites a new report on apparent recriticality indicated by way of another i-131 finding http://fukushimaupdate.com/recriticality-at-fukushima/
by Ian 10/19/2011 3:12:49 PM

Google 2001 and MOX shipment - found details
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:13:11 PM

In 1999 and 2001, the shipments contained 60 MOX fuel assemblies for use in Tepco's Fukishima I-3 and Kashiwazaki-Kariwa 3 BWR units, respectively. world-nuclear.org
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:16:34 PM

@lillymunster With our previous sources, we have the MOX shipments to Fukushima I-3 and Kashiwazaki-Kariwa 3 listed as 1999 and 2000
by smoss 10/19/2011 3:20:32 PM

The Teal and the Pintail do not match the 2000 record we have for Kashiwazaki. These sound like independent shipments or some of our sources have dates wrong? But the Fuku shipment was in 1999. So do they have more fuel on site??? The 2001 Pintail shipment doesn't seem like a dating error - nothing close to it and not for Kashiwazaki
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:20:40 PM

@smoss right Even if you called Kashiwazaki's as misdated as 2000 it is the wrong ship. Our record says the Swan delivered in 2000 not the Pintail
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:21:27 PM

meanwhile in China this goes viral sg.news.yahoo.com
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:22:27 PM

@artnuke Elaine found the video the other day. Any idea what they mean by this?

But others linked the incident to an earlier case in which a man who tried to help an elderly woman after she fell over was prosecuted, apparently because his intervention broke government rules on dealing with accident victims.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:24:08 PM

Areva documentation on the 2001 shipment for Pintail and Teal says the total is only Kashiwazaki's MOX and maybe some returned waste? Something is off. We have a 2000 shipment with the Swan to Kashi and also this? We need to go back an re-audit all these shipments www.areva.com

Good catch Smoss. As you said we knew something was off or missing. This may be it.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:31:00 PM

@lillymunster I think this may be another indicators that Fukushima I did have more MOX fuel on site. Of course everything is still purely circumstancial, but when coupled with previous doc analysis that they were intentional about rapidly proceeding to a 1/3 MOX core at reactor 3, this mystery shipment may be another piece to the puzzle.
by smoss 10/19/2011 3:31:47 PM

Running over kids and running away just shows that Japan isn't the only place where they do things differently than here in the states. In the US hit and run means you go to jail, I think suing people that help is something that used to be in old movie and TV plots here. Of course, who is wondering why the mother let her kid wander all over such a busy street / alley. They don't have those silly kid-with-flag statues you see all over american cul-de-sacs. Probably anoter thing Chinese make that they can't afford themselves.
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:33:07 PM

@artnuke I heard lack of day care and preschool? There was some documentary about kids going to work with parents if they own shops etc. I have no clue if this is a class specific thing or what.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:34:15 PM

@smoss It sure leans towards more inventory that we were intially led to believe. If you do any notes on this today can you post them or email me? I may try to work on this some more tonight and see if I can pin down anything that might actually be a duplicate or if one of the 2001 is a waste shipment not mox etc. It sure looks like surplus mox was shipped.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:36:25 PM

re fukushima update: Corbett also posts typical Global Research conspiracy propoganda such as this 9/11 conspiracy video. This one tends on the funny side, but there's plenty more on globalresearch which posts a lot of the same stuff that shows up on other conspiracy sites. On the other hand, this is among the better factual outlets compared to the ones that simply make up stories about HAARP and that Israel planted nukes and stuxnet at fukushima. www.youtube.com
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:36:33 PM

Its very common in Asian Americans shops and restaurants to have their kids are in the back of the shop doing homework or surfing the web. I haven't seen one parking their kids in the middle of a busy street without a blinking visibility vest yet though.
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:38:40 PM

@lillymunster I also think that it's reasonable to expect or anticipate that 8 months in to this crisis has given AREVA and Tepco an opportunity to back track and re-construct anything that may have been out of place. Will definately post any findings :-)
by smoss 10/19/2011 3:47:36 PM

@lilly and smoss.. may I ask.. what is the central issue with the MOX shipments?
by dean 10/19/2011 3:48:29 PM

@dean Early on we wondered if any of the 4 units at Fuku could have MOX running or in the SFP. There were concerns about holes in TEPCO's documentation, the SFP at 3. We also found some oddities in unit 1 and unit 4's documentation. None of it specifically said they were running or storing MOX elsewhere but there was enough odd things. There was some weird "storage" mentioned for unit 4. Something about unit 1 being so close to end of life and the way the upgrades were being conducted there that didn't seem right. That got us on the MOX thing looking for discrepancies.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 3:51:55 PM

So what to make of all those scary Canadian youtube videos (connectingdots etc) measuring tons of activity everywhere? connectingdots is another guy that marks his channel with an ad for 9/11 truth.

@All Just wanted to drop a link to the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission (CNSC). Given that radioactivity levels across Canada continue to be within normal background levels and that there is no cause for concern, on Thursday, August 11, 2011 Health Canada removed nine supplementary fixed point detectors that were installed in British Columbia and the Yukon in response to the Fukushima nuclear incident. In addition, on September 15, 2011, Health Canada will end its weekly data postings, resuming its previous schedule of quarterly postings of the fixed point network data and terminating Website Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) data reporting. www.hc-sc.gc.canuclearsafety.gc.ca
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:52:14 PM

anybody care to estimate how many suicides are due to nuclear criss in Fukushima. Seems we have at least a dozen ancedotal accounts, woudn't that scale out to as many as 100-1000 unreported cases? I can find no accounts of corresponding situations for Chernobyl other than things like alchoholism etc.
by artnuke 10/19/2011 3:52:16 PM

@dean Central issue centers around the idea that within 2 operating cycles, Tepco was intentional about increasing MOX FAs in the core of Fukushima I-3 from 32 to 64. Have been searching for some verification that another shipment of MOX FAs existed, which would play a supporting role in the idea that there were unirradiated MOX FAs in the SPF of reactor #3.
by smoss 10/19/2011 3:53:54 PM

Return of plutonium and MOX

So far one shipment of separated reactor-grade plutonium recovered from used fuel reprocessing has been returned to Japan, in 1993. This was reactor-grade material, with about 30% Pu-240 in it and therefore useable only as a reactor fuel. It is not suitable for nuclear weapons.

Further plutonium is being returned as mixed oxide (MOX) fuel, in which the plutonium is mixed with depleted uranium and fabricated into fresh fuel elements ready for use in a power station reactor (see information page on Mixed Oxide (MOX) Fuel). Shipments of MOX fuel assemblies were sent in mid-1999, early 2001, early 2009 and mid-2010.

Part of the 1999 shipment, intended for Kansai's Takehama plant, was returned to the UK in 2002 due to doubts about quality control. In 1999 and 2001, the shipments contained 60 MOX fuel assemblies for use in Tepco's Fukishima I-3 and Kashiwazaki-Kariwa 3 BWR units, respectively. The 2009 shipment contained 24 assemblies for Shikoku's Ikata 3, 28 for Chubu's Hamaoka 4, and 16 for Kyushu's Genkai 3. The 2010 shipment from France contained 12 assemblies for Kansai's Takahama 4 and 20 assemblies for the second load at Genkai 3....... this may add to what already is known on MOX SHIPMENTS
by dean 10/19/2011 3:55:49 PM

Sorry to interrupt. I checked SimplyInfo and didn't find. Suggestions for affordable and reliable geiger counter for personal use? Links? Good reviews? Domo arigato gozaimasu! (thanks very much)
by Cryptococcus 10/19/2011 4:00:46 PM

@smoss and lilly .. one question is how much materialy was shipped in 1993 that was 30% Pu-240 and what was done with it (stored, shipped for manufacturing etc.)?

by dean 10/19/2011 4:05:05 PM

@Cryptococcus There is a link to this place in the library. Never bought anything from them but Peter suggested them for some equipment www.radmeters4u.com I see rad detectors on ebay all the time. I think it depends on what you want it for. There are tons of old Soviet hand held units for cheap then the newer types but those cost quite a bit.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 4:05:58 PM

world-nuclear.org MOX Europe shipment article
by dean 10/19/2011 4:07:14 PM

?? Neutron ray was measured in Tokyo fukushima-diary.com
by Panserbjorne9 10/19/2011 4:10:48 PM

@dean I think the Pu oxide shipped in 1993 was probably for the FBR program...this doc says 1509kg shipped (p12) www.docstoc.com
by smoss 10/19/2011 4:15:28 PM

www.jma.go.jp

16:05 JST 19 Oct 2011 37.0N 140.7E 10 km 4.1 Fukushima-ken Hamadori not listed by usgs
by Edano via Jma.go.jp 10/19/2011 4:16:41 PM

really near the plants
by Edano 10/19/2011 4:17:00 PM

Dean can you look at PB's link? A bit over my head.
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 4:17:12 PM

yes @ lilly will do now
by dean 10/19/2011 4:24:52 PM

@lilly ,, I need to run for a bit and will expand on what link PB's... it has some terminology that needs clarification..
by dean 10/19/2011 4:30:17 PM

Problems in the waste management systems and all the radioactive waste www.waste-management-world.com
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 4:33:21 PM

english.kyodonews.jp

IEA agrees to promote nuclear, other low carbon technologies

PARIS, Oct. 19, Kyodo

The International Energy Agency agreed at a ministerial meeting Wednesday in Paris that it will seek diversification of energy sources through the promotion of low-carbon technologies, including nuclear power.

Attending ministers also confirmed the need to strengthen global energy security and to enhance transparency of the oil and other energy markets, according to a summary issued by Australian energy minister Martin Ferguson, who chaired the two-day meeting.

At the biennial gathering, participants considered how to ensure stable energy supply following a series of major developments since the last such meeting in 2009. These included the devastating 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, unrest in the oil-rich Middle East and North Africa, and the Fukushima nuclear plant disaster in Japan. english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/19/2011 4:35:33 PM

blabla.
by Edano 10/19/2011 4:35:38 PM

@artnuke, Japan tends to have high suicide rates per se, which might account for any disparity wrt Chernobyl. There are even places in Japan where people traditionally go to formally commit suicide. There are even circumstances of personal failure where suicide is expected, at least traditionally if not contemporaneously. Japan's suicidal traditions probably played a part in the kamikaze pilots of WWII who flew into US warships -- suicide bombers.
by Ian 10/19/2011 4:49:16 PM

@Ian There was a mention that the current suicide rate was high due to the lousy economy making things worse for people. This was before the quakes. I don't know if any agency is tracking the suicide rate among evacuees and those living in the contaminated areas. Bo or Rockhopper might know where to look up those statistics
by lillymunster 10/19/2011 4:57:15 PM

tinyurl.com
You might like to review these results (the first two point to that document) as it returns a lot of interesting hints to dig into.

Among these I already found this special article worth mentioning:
A 25 Year Retrospective Review of the Psychological Consequences of the Chernobyl Accident - www.stonybrookmedicalcenter.org
by Vivre 10/19/2011 5:21:14 PM

@lillymunster Verifying MOX shipment: Greenpeace believes that the new shipment from France, of 28 fuel assemblies containing some 230 kg of weapons-usable plutonium, could leave as early as September 2000. archive.greenpeace.org
by smoss 10/19/2011 5:50:04 PM

good evening
by elainekirk 10/19/2011 6:09:04 PM

@lillymunster Green Action again...A shipment of 28 BWR fuel assemblies consisting of plutonium uranium mixed oxide (MOX) fuel
fabricated at Belgonucleaire for the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Unit 3 reactor in Niigata Japan left Cherbourg,
France on 19 January 2001. www.greenpeace.fr
by smoss 10/19/2011 6:11:39 PM