Japan Earthquake

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@Edano :)
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:27:58 AM

@elainekirk but embedded would be better...
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:28:32 AM

my first post today
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:29:48 AM

@Edano !!!! quite agree :)
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:30:17 AM

@elainekirk sometimes you have live support here.
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:31:25 AM

it would be very good to establish "first aid" measures for evacuees (and in a second step for all other affected), such as: free health care, dismissal protection, wage continuation (also for self-employed), a guaranteed offer to buy property to pre disaster value and a guarantee for adequate living altenatives. they should pay in advance and make the papers later. all this would ease existential fears and provide fair chances. the nuke companies have to raise a fund for this.
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:41:37 AM

@Edano the crazy thing is that there were plans for purchasing properties all along that coast and building being forbidden because of the tsunami risk surely they could be carried forward and adapted to include the evac zone
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:43:35 AM

the costs can be estimated when a nuke is planned and updated every some years. the company has to prove a secured fund in the estimated value.
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:43:47 AM

@Edano yes it is about time they just increased power bills here by 20% they seem immune to any form of regulation
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:44:54 AM

and then they can evaluate if it still makes an economic sense to build that nuke.
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:45:39 AM

@elainekirk one year ago i changed to a much cheaper power supplier, they got bancrupt, and now i am forced back to the shark company. so far to the free competition on the power market. we are all slaves and pay for pollution.
by Edano 10/20/2011 9:49:36 AM

@Edano I hate the power companies they are nothing short of thieves
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:52:22 AM

@Edano we missed veenie posting on org about hawaiii??
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:53:13 AM

@Edano found a quake www.hawaiinewsnow.com
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:55:11 AM

@Edano I have to go out hope to catch you later
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:56:56 AM

www3.nhk.or.jp

Nuke committee drafts disaster-response revisions

Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission has drafted a plan for expanding areas that should be fully prepared against nuclear accidents to within 30 kilometers of nuclear power plants, from the current 10 kilometers.

A working group at the commission drew up the draft plan, following the March accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant when the government had ordered residents living within 30 kilometers of the plant to evacuate or to stay indoors.

The plan calls for designating areas within a radius of about 30 kilometers of nuclear plants as Urgent Protective Action Planning Zones, or UPZ. The definition of the UPZ is in line with the emergency-response requirements proposed by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The working group calls for designating areas within 5 kilometers of plants as precautionary action zones, where residents need to immediately evacuate in the event of an accident.

The group also wants residents within a radius of about 50 kilometers to be prepared to take action to prevent internal exposure to the thyroids, for example by taking iodine tablets.

The committee plans to further study the revision plan, together with experts and municipalities.

If implemented, major reviews of anti-nuclear disaster programs by local governments will be required, as the number of municipalities involved will be around 130, about 3 times more than the current figure.

Thursday, October 20, 2011 16:14 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/20/2011 10:09:29 AM

Govt panel to review Tokyo disaster measures

The Japanese government has set up a panel to review disaster control measures for Tokyo. The aim is to prevent the loss of capital functions in case of a major earthquake.

Panel members, including disaster experts and corporate officials in charge of disaster control, met for the first time on Thursday in Tokyo.

Panel chair Hiroaki Yoshii, a professor at Tokyo Keizai University, noted that measures to safeguard capital functions have not been sufficiently studied. He said Japan should establish precautionary measures after thoroughly studying the March 11th disaster.

The government drew up disaster control guidelines for Tokyo 6 years ago.

But the March disaster highlighted a number of problems, such as paralyzed public transport systems, blackouts and a prolonged power shortage.

The panel will study what more needs to be done for government offices and businesses to continue operation, and for the quick restoration of essential utilities.

It plans to compile a report by the end of March next year.

Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:57 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano 10/20/2011 10:12:35 AM

english.kyodonews.jp

Ship washed ashore by tsunami returns to sea

A huge freighter washed ashore in Iwate Prefecture by the March 11th tsunami has returned to sea.

The bow of the 2,300-ton ship had been sitting on a road near Kamaishi Port for about 7 months after being thrust through a bank of the port.

On Thursday, a crane vessel capable of lifting a 4,000-ton ship docked side by side with the freighter. The freighter was lifted using 32 wires and slowly winched back to sea over the course of about one hour.

Emergency repairs will be conducted if divers find damage to the bottom of the hull. The ship will then be moved to a factory in Hiroshima Prefecture, western Japan.

Kamaishi City Vice Mayor Tadamitsu Wakasaki said he hopes that the removal of the freighter will help accelerate the city's reconstruction. The ship was blocking traffic and slowing reconstruction.

Thursday, October 20, 2011 14:10 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/20/2011 10:14:28 AM

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by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/20/2011 10:19:43 AM

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by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 10/20/2011 10:19:43 AM

Heavy water leak stopped at Pakistani nuclear plant

ISLAMABAD, Oct. 20, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 10/20/2011 10:19:57 AM

by Majj 10/20/2011 11:23:11 AM

Morning! (afternoon - evening)

Edano, I think your emergency compensation plan is a very good idea, your hired! :-)
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 11:49:41 AM

Aljazeera reporting Qdaffi has been captured.
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 11:53:50 AM

Onagawa NPP provided shelter to tsunami evacuees. they seemed to "do everything right" by the community and didn't see the damage from the tsunami the two TEPCO plants did. They also had 5 electrical connections to the grid. www.reuters.com
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 12:05:54 PM

Fukushima prefecture has set up a second animal shelter for found animals if the owner can't be found or the owner can't keep the pet in temporary housing. ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 12:38:22 PM

good morning, evening to all
by dean 10/20/2011 12:42:55 PM

Hi Dean!
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 12:54:08 PM

@lilly.. yesterday elaine posted an article on neutron beam.. I thought I saved it to look at but my pc shutdown and I lost it... will have to ask her when she comes back
by dean 10/20/2011 1:01:22 PM

@dean I may have it, let me look
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:02:39 PM

The neutron ray article fukushima-diary.com
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:04:37 PM

ty lilly
by dean 10/20/2011 1:05:46 PM

I think neutron ray is not a term that I have seen used so I would like to understand the instrument that is used to 1) detect neutrons and 2) units of measurement
by dean 10/20/2011 1:14:47 PM

we know that the instruments we typically have seen here measure alpha, beta and gamma radiation
by dean 10/20/2011 1:15:26 PM

Journalists get ministerial official to agree to drink "decontaminated" water from Fukushima fukushima-diary.com
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:15:46 PM

the neutrons (differing energy levels) typically have to interact with a material which is coated within a tube, and when the neutron interacts with the material it gives off a charge which is picked up by a central probe and output as a count and then summed for counts per minute (cpm)...
by dean 10/20/2011 1:18:25 PM

@dean I had only heard neutron beam used to describe something found soon after 3 exploded near the plant. Old article on the neutron beam www.japantimes.co.jp

A google for neutron ray returned some results, not sure if any of that give a clear answer
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:20:25 PM

the instrument would have to be something like a gas proportional or neutron sensitive scintillation detector..
by dean 10/20/2011 1:20:51 PM

@dean en.wikipedia.org this is meant.
by Edano 10/20/2011 1:21:39 PM

I think the term gamma dose rate is more appropriate
by dean 10/20/2011 1:21:46 PM

hi @ Edano.. good seeing you
by dean 10/20/2011 1:21:59 PM

Medical dictionary definition of a neutron ray
ray, neutron,
n particulate ionizing radiation consisting of neutrons. On impact with nuclei or atoms, neutrons possess enough kinetic energy to set the nuclei or atoms in motion with sufficient velocity to ionize matter or enter into nuclear reactions that result in the emission of ionizing radiation. The former variety is usually called the fast neutron, and the latter the thermoneutron, with gradations of epithermal and slow neutrons between them.
medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:22:48 PM

fast neutrons, yes.
by Edano 10/20/2011 1:23:38 PM

fast neutrons are primarily not dangerous but when they get slower at a barrier like water, they can be caught in tissues and "irradiate" it. it gets instable and decays emitting alpha gamma beta. like a fuel rod.
by Edano 10/20/2011 1:26:57 PM

What they are claiming is doing it en.wikipedia.org
The article claims the U 235 is due to the MOX in unit 3 but doesn't elaborate
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 1:27:39 PM