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@all International Nuclear and Radiation Safety Experts Conclude IAEA Peer Review of Slovenia's Regulatory System

www.iaea.org "Peer Review"...making me laugh! Good Night All! Be Well!
by smoss 11/13/2011 4:06:40 AM

Added an update to the group web page.

Nite Smoss!
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 4:16:05 AM

Thanks for everyone's hard work digging up info on the EU leak today. We will figure it out yet. :-) I'm off to sleep for a bit
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 4:27:51 AM

More cryptome pics from the media tour of Fukushima cryptome.org
by Lurking 11/13/2011 4:34:24 AM

@Lurking oh wow, good images and big ones too. Now I have something to work on over morning coffee. :-) now off to bed for real. :-)
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 4:36:51 AM

@lillymunster thanks again for all of your hard and important work.
by bo 11/13/2011 4:37:04 AM

@Lily, Enjoy!
by Lurking 11/13/2011 4:37:23 AM

Shows a school-teacher in Japan unpacking the dosimeters that arrived, and saying because they only record doses measured and have no display to show the levels or sound an alarm if the levels get too high, it makes the students guinea pigs. I suspect the dosimeters with hidden measures are lawsuit-proaction devices that authorities will always be able to falsely claim showed a lower level than what they'll claim to be "safe". The should refuse to wear them unless they have a clear and corroboratable data display at each moment and a ***ulative record that tabulates hourly history. That way they could always be calibrated / double checked by a personally-acquired Geiger counter.
by Ian 11/13/2011 6:46:16 AM

... lawsuit-protection devices ...
by Ian 11/13/2011 7:25:26 AM

Radioactive satellite may come crashing down : rt.com "After plummeting through the atmosphere, the craft will most likely fall into the ocean. The 10 tons of highly flammable and toxic fuel and a small quantity of radioactive material contained in the equipment on board the space mission will burn up along with most of the ship.
The chances of the spacecraft falling on a populated area and causing harm are minuscule. However, the risk cannot be ruled out, so averting such a scenario is what mission control are working on right now."
by Ian 11/13/2011 8:31:09 AM

"Phobos-Grunt is expected to make an uncontrolled re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere, along with its 8.3 tons (7.5 tonnes) of highly toxic propellant and radioactive cobalt-57."
by Ian 11/13/2011 8:34:43 AM

Cool, Dr Caldicot's facebook : www.facebook.com
by Ian 11/13/2011 8:37:14 AM

by Ian 11/13/2011 8:38:09 AM

Sounds like radioactive cobalt is extremely safe : "The concept of a cobalt bomb was originally described by physicist Leó Szilárd, who suggested that an arsenal of cobalt bombs would be capable of destroying all human life on Earth (though his conclusions are disputed). Cobalt was chosen because of the fallout, that would have a half-life of 5.27 years and would be intensely radioactive at the same time."
by Ian 11/13/2011 8:51:48 AM

by Ian 11/13/2011 9:16:55 AM

Alleged ex-Tepco worker supposedly says Unit 3 was a nuclear explosion : www.youtube.com
by Ian 11/13/2011 9:22:37 AM

Nuclear power plant Philippsburg II (Germany) unscheduled shutdown
12.11.11 18:26
PHILIPPSBURG (Reuters) - The Baden-Württemberg Philippsburg nuclear power plant II has been taken of the grid on Saturday. During a routine tour a faulty seal on a non-nuclear part of the plant was discovered, said the energy group EnBW (EnBW share). To repair the seal the nuclear reactor must be shut down, said a spokesman. When Philippsburg 2 could provide electricity again is still unclear. The electricity supply in Baden-Württemberg was not at risk.
www.ariva.de
by Liz 11/13/2011 11:38:42 AM

good morning
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 11:39:28 AM

BBC News - Ofgem study 'undermines' case for nuclear bbc.in
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 11:52:52 AM

T-Gamma latest readings eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 12:04:26 PM

english.kyodonews.jp

Environment minister Hosono joins decontamination work
Environment Minister Goshi Hosono (R front) scrapes off the topsoil of a residential garden in Date, Fukushima Prefecture, on Nov. 13, 2011, to decontaminate radioactive materials from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in the prefecture with around 60 volunteer workers. (Kyodo) english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 11/13/2011 1:56:33 PM

omg
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:56:50 PM

@Hi all. Thanks for actually use your brians - I did not think "the experts" were doing that when they told the radiation (from maaaany countries..) may come from treatment of cancer patients in a British hospital - and there were some other good suggenstions too... This attitude makes me mad... I just found that map Elain when I read back on the links you provided here yesterday - TY. Liz TY for info about the german power plant. Q: Is it so that they have to shut down the reactor before repaireing this leak - how long time can this take, anyone who knows? They have to have known this all along - right? And how many are they...? Hmmm...
by Mona 11/13/2011 1:58:04 PM

Antinuclear-plant protesters rally in Fukuoka

FUKUOKA, Nov. 13, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:59:11 PM

Morning! So did they find/admit the EU leak source yet? :-)
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:01:14 PM

@Mona there is no leak to be repaired. the fuel is leaking, probably badly produced.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:01:30 PM

@lillymunster no. (morning :) )
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:02:14 PM

@BRIANS I meant... Haven't seen any news papers writing about the leak. Another Q: journalists visiting Fukushima telling about levels of 300 microsiverts per hour - any who have comments to that?
by Mona 11/13/2011 2:03:03 PM

@Difficult... BRAINS - I don't use mine today obiously. ;) Edano - can you explain some more?
by Mona 11/13/2011 2:04:21 PM

@Edano You speak german right?Bei einem routinemäßigen Rundgang sei eine defekte Dichtung an einem nicht-nuklearen Teil der Anlage entdeckt worden, teilte der Energiekonzern EnBW (EnBW Aktie) mit. Um die Dichtung reparieren zu können, habe der Atommeiler abgeschaltet werden müssen, sagte ein Sprecher.
by Mona 11/13/2011 2:06:46 PM

@Mona do you have a source ? i haven't checked news yet.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:07:08 PM

@Mona The level at fuku was taken inside the press buss. One of the workers tweeted last night worried that the media is giving too nice of a report about fuku conditions. They were kept in the bus and only let out to go into the protected command center and then taken back to Jvillage. He says there are still deadly high areas at the plant
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:09:24 PM

i think i found the news:

"Atomkraftwerk Philippsburg II außerplanmäßig vom Netz

PHILIPPSBURG (dpa-AFX) - Das baden-württembergische Atomkraftwerk Philippsburg II ist am Samstag außerplanmäßig vom Netz genommen worden. Bei einem routinemäßigen Rundgang sei eine defekte Dichtung an einem nicht-nuklearen Teil der Anlage entdeckt worden, teilte der Energiekonzern EnBW ENBW ENERGIE BAD.-WUE. ON mit. Um die Dichtung reparieren zu können, habe der Atommeiler abgeschaltet werden müssen, sagte ein Sprecher. Wann Philippsburg II wieder Strom liefern könne, sei derzeit noch unklar. Die Stromversorgung in Baden-Württemberg sei aber nicht gefährdet./DP/zb" www.onvista.de

"Nuclear power plant Philippsburg II of unscheduled power

PHILIP CASTLE (Reuters) - The Baden-Württemberg Philippsburg nuclear power plant II has been taken out on Saturday as scheduled by the network. During a routine tour was a faulty seal on a non-nuclear part of the plant was discovered, said the energy company EnBW ENBW ENERGY Bad.-WUE. With ON. To repair the seal may have the nuclear reactor must be shut down, said a spokesman. When Philip II castle again could provide electricity is still unclear. The electricity supply in Baden-Württemberg was not gefährdet. / DP / eg" google translate
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:12:41 PM

@Lillymunster I understand. Norwegian news paper have nothing about radiation levels in the covering of the visit. This have: www.telegraph.co.uk
by Mona edited by Edano 11/13/2011 2:13:09 PM

@Edano sorry. Here is the link: www.ariva.de
by Mona edited by Edano 11/13/2011 2:13:47 PM

@Mona well, it is a non-nuclear leak. maybe the secondary cooling. i don't know how long it needs to repair it. obviously it is a safety procedure to drive the reactor down.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:16:12 PM

i thought you referrred to the other news from yesterday, that Grundremmingen was leaking noble gases.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:17:34 PM

@Mona The Telegraph story is the one from the NYTimes. They let a big bunch of reporters in there but I am seeing lots of duplication in English language media.
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:19:52 PM

@Edano I don't understand what that means when they say "non-nuclear. Isn't this the plant that have the high radiation- the red dot- on the map 1.04 on this page? I haven't heard of Grundremmingen as you telling about. Is it Grundremmingen or the other plant that has the red dot and - I presume- is responsable for the radiation increases in Europe?
by Mona 11/13/2011 2:20:55 PM

@Mona no ! increased levels of iodine-131 have been found. this must be more serious than a non-nuclear leak. iodine-131 leaks on a meltdown.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:23:22 PM

A random thought while looking through the Cryptome images of the plant from yesterday. TEPCO also put out images claiming 4's explosion originated from the air handling system due to the massive damage to that systems ductwork. One of the locations in the wall of 4 that faces 3 had significant damage at a lower level near the corner of the building. There is a sludge tank there that is also hooked to an air handling system. The tank contents can make hydrogen and that tank has to be vented. The vent in the diagrams either direct vented out the wall or was tied to the air handling system, it wasn't totally clear. But it did seem to be involved in the blast. If it was tied to the air handling system that would explain why that was one of the more damaged locations in the building.
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:25:22 PM

@Edano Ok. TY for info. I see a purple dot on that map also - don't know what country that is - but can that be the source of the iodine increases?
by Mona 11/13/2011 2:26:12 PM