Japan Earthquake

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@all From @lillymunsters link
Второй энергоблок Запорожской атомной электростанции в субботу, 12 ноября, был отключен от сети из-за неисправности в цепях автоматики энергоблока. The second unit of the Zaporozhye nuclear plant on Saturday, November 12, was disconnected from the network due to faults in the automation power circuits. The radiation background at the industrial site and buffer zone corresponds to the natural radiation ZNPP background. translate.google.com
by smoss 11/13/2011 1:22:07 AM

this is so darn similar to chernobyl.... but maybe it's nothing.
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:26:22 AM

those iaea links I put up earlier that iaea had used in last 7 days had ukraine in them I dunnno why they wouldnt open in mine but others opened them
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 1:28:07 AM

maybe they vented the iodine out in the last days ?
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:29:14 AM

what isotopes were detected in sweden when chernobyl broke?
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 1:31:27 AM

@lillymunster in Forsmark they noticed the radiation.
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:32:36 AM

www.decodedscience.com Comparison from this article : www.decodedscience.com
by Ian via Decodedscience 11/13/2011 1:33:10 AM

@Puc Good advice. Are you finding any articles out there? All seems to be quiet
by MaryW 11/13/2011 1:36:00 AM

@lillymunster, yeah, or Cs134, lots o holes. And I'm not sure the levels are correct comparisons, certainly not according to www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net , but that's not yet published.

by Ian 11/13/2011 1:40:36 AM

@lillymunster, and that chart has combined strontiums far exceeding Cs137, and that's definitely not correct. The author claims a masters degree in Nuclear Chemistry. ??
by Ian 11/13/2011 1:43:03 AM

4 navigation warnings to pilots due to 'arial photography ' taking place Ukraine pilotweb.nas.faa.gov
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 1:43:31 AM

@you, then again, the y-axis scale increases dramatically so maybe it's correct.
by Ian 11/13/2011 1:46:32 AM

@elainekirk There you have it. Great find elaine
by MaryW 11/13/2011 1:46:41 AM

OK, now what other sources would have restriction orders or similar alerts...have to brainstorm. back later
by MaryW 11/13/2011 1:49:17 AM

All sorts of aerial photography going on near and in Ukraine on 14th. Also 13th. Includes areas of Bulgaria, Ukraine, Serbia, Hungary.
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 1:49:55 AM

All those areas being photo'ed don't have robust radiation networks
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 1:52:56 AM

So do you imagine the aerial photography is to locate the source? Don't you imagine that those at the source know the story?
by bo 11/13/2011 1:53:47 AM

What's so negligent about the claim that the i131 levels detected are safe is they entail there's a source, and since it's unknown, the blanket declaration of safety can't necessarily, indeed almost surely, be assumed to in every location. It's gotta be hotter closer to the source.
by Ian 11/13/2011 1:54:21 AM

@bo i think it is just an excuse to prevent traffic in contaminated clouds.
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:56:26 AM

they won't say: hey, don't fly there because there is radiation.
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:57:39 AM

This whole thing is just weird. If it is something minor and IAEA knows what it is, why give zero additional information?

The first thing they did at Fuku was fly over and take readings.
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 1:58:45 AM

@lillymunster aerial photography = take readings ?
by Edano 11/13/2011 1:59:43 AM

I know that the original design of the Chernobyl reactors were without containment, but I had heard that after the accident there was an effort to try to put containment structures in place. Does anyone know if this was actually done? Or are these reactors still uncontained?
by bo 11/13/2011 2:00:41 AM

@bo I didn't see anything about that in anything I have found, only talk about the new cover for the exploded unit.
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:01:40 AM

de.wikipedia.org modern WWER reactors (siemens/russian)
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:02:46 AM

read under decommissioning this says all units at Chernobyl are now shut down en.wikipedia.org
by lillymunster 11/13/2011 2:04:51 AM

the containment system is equal to western nukes.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:06:23 AM

water cooled, water moderated, control rods from above. similar to our PWR reactors.
by Edano 11/13/2011 2:08:38 AM

@Edano thought I had found something but looks boring
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 2:17:06 AM

@Edano, or maybe some authorities are doing photography as past of investigation. There's some rouge facility out there, and aerial recon might the fasted inspection method.
by Ian 11/13/2011 2:18:37 AM

@Ian wouldnt they be more discreet? this is pretty full on monitoring
by elainekirk 11/13/2011 2:21:26 AM

@elainekirk, I think the IAEA would be upfront about monitoring this and knocking-down doors if they could get the boots on the ground, at least I'd hope so.
by Ian 11/13/2011 2:24:26 AM