Japan Earthquake

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We have to consider rain fallout too
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:27:15 PM

@Edano @MaryW did it def come from slovakia?
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:28:43 PM

No definites, I think
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:30:17 PM

the eurodep wont bring up a 131 map at all now not even a blank
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:31:09 PM

@elainekirk Will reloading the site help?
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:32:04 PM

oh if you set for max values rather than all you get the readings this is 131
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:35:35 PM

@elainekirk this is krsko !
by Edano 11/12/2011 7:36:29 PM

Is there a color-code description red=?, yellow=?
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:37:12 PM

@Edano ah lets go zoom the others :)
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:37:28 PM

@MaryW eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu
by Edano 11/12/2011 7:38:40 PM

and do a minimum you get the same again that has to be the source can you back track on the map?
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:39:48 PM

24hrs ago 131 using max setting
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 7:43:19 PM

Important to Note: There is a Disclaimer notice for the euromaps posted below. 1) violet or red dots on the map are NOT an indication of increased radiological values, 2) dots near a nuclear plant may indicate calibration tests on monitoring stations.
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:52:22 PM

Almost have to do a continuous analyses to note any change in radioactivity levels, since calibrations at monitoring station are done on a regular calibration schedule Whatever that may be.
by MaryW 11/12/2011 7:57:08 PM

@MaryW oh well spotted I didnt see that
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:05:25 PM

@MaryW there are ornge dots though the two hots[pots swap between red/orange...
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:06:20 PM

@elainekirk But maps could still be useful. Have to rule-out site of nuclear plants' dots, and take note of any changes in these areas. Also should be some written protocol on when calibrations are/should be performed on the monitoring stations'
by MaryW 11/12/2011 8:09:12 PM

Turkey Earthquake Did Not Affect Armenia Nuclear Power Plant 10.24.2011: Ministry
The magnitude of the earthquake that struck Turkey’s eastern region was 3.0 at the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant (ANPP, or MNPP for Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant), which is 160km from the epicenter, according to a statement issued Monday by Armenia’s Ministry of Emergency Situations.
“There could be no damage to the ANPP since it is calculated to withstand at least a 9.0 magnitude. Moreover, the quake in Turkey has not resulted in damage to any residence, building or structure in the territory of the Republic of Armenia,” reads the statement, in part.
ANPP General Director Gagik Markosyan stated that it’s even unnecessary to speak of a 2–3 magnitude earthquake, especially since the Armenian nuclear plant has been undergoing repairs since Sept. 11.
Recall, a 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck Turkey’s eastern Van region on Sunday, resulting in hundreds of casualties and many more injured. Aftershocks continue to be felt today.
The quake was also felt in neighboring Armenia, at a magnitude of 3.0–5.0 in some parts of the country.
www.epress.am
by Liz 11/12/2011 8:10:13 PM

@MaryW thats true there should be fresh data soon
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:10:16 PM

@MaryW OOO if you go back a day at a time they have fluctuated one day thee was nothing then another both red another red.green very strange on the 5th they were orange and green
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:13:07 PM

@elainekirk working in a QA lab for gov, we performed calibrations whenever abnormal readings were noted, also when operators changed and at start of shifts. So in reality, calibration can be performed at any time. :)
by MaryW 11/12/2011 8:15:55 PM

Turkish Earthquake Damaged Armenian Nuclear Plant??
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by Liz 11/12/2011 8:16:40 PM

@Liz take your pick time (^I^)?
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:18:31 PM

@Liz well what the heck??
by MaryW 11/12/2011 8:20:05 PM

IAEA Satisfied with Cooperation with Armenia. Nov 11.2011. arka.am
by MaryW 11/12/2011 8:27:33 PM

From the 26th of July when a small amount appeared on the border there have only been a couple of days that they havent detected any and many times high levels also we get sporadic measurements (though not as consistant elsewhere
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:35:30 PM

by M.I.A. 11/12/2011 8:38:20 PM

finally back - better be for the rest of the day, keep getting dragged out to do things. Reading back over posts while I was out. So there was a german plant with leaky MOX? Is there a plant in Slovakia that was having a problem?

by lillymunster 11/12/2011 8:44:15 PM

Measurements at Metsamor
12:40 November 01, 2011
Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Taner Yildiz made a statement that he assigned the bodies responsible for security to immediately measure radiation level, as he has concerns that Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant could have emissions because of the quake in Van. This statement was made at that time when Energy and Natural Resources Ministry had already clarified that the quake in Van couldn’t do any damage to Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant.
Turkey is going to take legal measures against Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant, as, under Turkey, it’s one of the most technically worn-out plants and poses a serious danger to the whole region. Based on this he said Ankara is going to file a complaint to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and demand to carry out new examinations with the participation of Turkish specialists in Metsamor Nuclear Power Plant and to make Armenia put it out of service.
www.ecolur.org
by Liz 11/12/2011 8:46:41 PM

@lillymunster looks like slovakia and goes back to July 26th
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:52:17 PM

Sorry if this already posted, but Tepco posted some photos to support its theory that Unit 4 exploded due to hydrogen influx via vents from Unit 3 : ex-skf.blogspot.com Imo, the theory is plausible.
by Ian 11/12/2011 8:52:26 PM

I updated the group web page article with the new Daiichi photos and news from this morning. The article is the first one on the main page. or here: www.simplyinfo.org
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 8:52:54 PM

@Liz wow good to see turkey take a stance
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:53:36 PM

@lillymunster thanky
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:53:58 PM

@Ian Saw those a few days ago, I don't think everyone has though. The photos do show what to me looks like blast origins being the HVAC system. So they might be right on this one. If so that means that unit 3 produced a massive amount of hydrogen. Again the MOX looks to be a problem.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 8:54:16 PM

On the Tepco Unit 4 theory : cryptome.org
by Ian 11/12/2011 8:55:06 PM

@elainekirk The Euro iodine just seems to become more confusing. Are we looking at multiple leaks due to this german reactor or is all of it still considered to be the mystery leak?
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 8:55:12 PM

@lillymunster, what's curious is the attention they pay to Unit 4's anomalous behavior, but not Unit 3's anomalous explosive magnitude and plume vs Unit 1.
by Ian 11/12/2011 8:56:57 PM

@lillymunster would it be worth making clear in that article that the plant is still spewing and they were in the bus maybe for protection from the radiation ? it may read to those not aware that the plant is now safe to tootle around taking pics
by elainekirk 11/12/2011 8:57:18 PM

@elainekirk Ah - good point. The NYT reporter outlined this but the other reports don't make it quite so clear.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 8:59:40 PM

There's some academic / expert discussion ongoing over the recent study concluding significantly large releases from Fuku : www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net They study isn't formally published yet but is part of an exciting form on online and open peer-review.
by Ian 11/12/2011 9:00:25 PM

... significantly larger releases ...
by Ian 11/12/2011 9:01:10 PM

@elainekirk added a paragraph about the plant levels and pointed out that J Village is far away from the plant. I hope nobody gets the two confused and thinks it is safe to be at Daiichi without a respirator.
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 9:05:30 PM

Created a map to add any ideas we have of potential sources of the I-131. You can add your own to the map or post them here and I will add them in. maps.google.com
by lillymunster 11/12/2011 9:15:22 PM

@lillymunster, agreed re Tepco U4 theory. This i131 is a real-life mystery story. There simply has to be some facility hoping they'll get away with it. I guess they've not detected radiocesiums or other isotopes. From the presence or lack of certain isotopes the nature of the causal event might be inferable. You'd think a full-scale meltdown would show a lot more than a whisper i131.
by Ian 11/12/2011 9:25:43 PM